Thura Aung Kyaw Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Taylor Swift obviously. Anyone saying otherwise is definitely delusional 1
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 There is ome biggest artist of century who has sales, impact, numbers and celebrity. But atrl will never accept it. They will think wearing meat dress will forever be more iconic than actual impact and numbers. 2 1
QueenBeyoncé Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) she never reached MJ or Madonna and didn’t last as long as them either Edited October 25, 2023 by QueenBeyoncé 1
perpetual novice Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 1 minute ago, BOOMBAYAH said: Beyoncé, Taylor, and Gaga come close. In my opinion, "fame" has evolved, and it's not so much that Madonna, Britney, and MJ had some enigmatic thing no other artist can tap into; it's that when they were in their peaks, the world worked in a very different way and reacted to stars differently. I slightly disagree on this, I do think that social media does prevent anyone from ever reaching Michael's level of fame again, and there's not much space to innovate in music in the way that he did to create that following around him, but stars to the power of Britney and Madonna is still possible in my opinion, I just think music is suffering from a chronic lack of personality at the moment. We saw when Billie Eilish came up that people still crave something different and new, she rose to superstar levels overnight and only really fell off when she settled into a more traditional sound and image, she really could have pushed to crazy heights if she kept the momentum going. 1
Carry My Heart Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, leyaris11 said: her tour doing fine, i gave her that but she will never be on mj, madonna and britney level. She's dominating all facets of popular culture while on break from tour and it directly correlates with her discography's incredible success. 1
GlamSlam Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kimi said: First of all they are not equal, Madonna never reached Michaels fame level Anyone who witnessed Madonna's rein / peak wouldn't be talking such nonsense. Michael's the King of Pop, so why do you think she's known as THE Queen of Pop? Edited October 25, 2023 by GlamSlam 8 3
perfillusion Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 37 minutes ago, leyaris11 said: Seriously, who can potentially reach the height of the fame of MJ, Madonna and Britney anymore? Their impact, legacy and controversial is just something... fascinating, I might said. The world is just obsessed with them. The Britney sneak 5
leyaris11 Posted October 25, 2023 Author Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Why the swifties bring up these streaming stats, sales and touring receipts. Did I say music career??? I say FAME. Edited October 25, 2023 by leyaris11 1 7
Mr. Mendes Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Kimi said: First of all the are not equal, neither Madonna nor Britney ever reached Michaels fame level Madonna absolutely did. She was the female equivalent in every way. Best selling female artist of all time, college courses devoted to teaching about her cultural impact, an entire subculture in the 80s was named after her, she was selling out stadiums around the world on her second tour, and is along with Michael the blueprint for modern pop stars in every department from touring (in all honestly, her shows were better than his), music videos, and image control. 2 1
Carry My Heart Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 1 minute ago, leyaris11 said: Why y'all bring up these streaming stats, sales and touring receipts. Did I say music career??? I say FAME. Every statistic you brought up here is indicative of someone's FAME. 7
Shimenawa Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Gaga & Taylor did it And Britney was never on the level of MJ & Madonna 2 1 1 1
WildHeart Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, leyaris11 said: Why y'all bring up these streaming stats, sales and touring receipts. 16 minutes ago, leyaris11 said: not when britney book is selling like hot cake and top 2023, people is obsessed with her, period, 4
Klein Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, leyaris11 said: Why y'all bring up these streaming stats, sales and touring receipts. Did I say music career??? I say FAME. NFL has been making a hell of a deal of her attending football games (calling themselves NFL (Taylor's Version) in their bio), companies are creating new sauce flavours based on a fan account comment. It was shown she's by FAR the most researched non-fictional Halloween costume. Thousands upon thousands of people were attending the concert from the outside of her concerts during her entire tour (on top of the tens of thousands that were inside). Everyone talked about her tour, everyone talked about her film. Her music is everywhere. She definitely is in those realms of popularity and fame. 6 2
leyaris11 Posted October 25, 2023 Author Posted October 25, 2023 1 minute ago, prézli said: Beyoncé interesting input.
Alina M Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 42 minutes ago, iamanearthling said: We’re living in one right now and you know who she is. Don’t be shy.
BOOMBAYAH Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, perpetual novice said: I slightly disagree on this, I do think that social media does prevent anyone from ever reaching Michael's level of fame again, and there's not much space to innovate in music in the way that he did to create that following around him, but stars to the power of Britney and Madonna is still possible in my opinion, I just think music is suffering from a chronic lack of personality at the moment. We saw when Billie Eilish came up that people still crave something different and new, she rose to superstar levels overnight and only really fell off when she settled into a more traditional sound and image, she really could have pushed to crazy heights if she kept the momentum going. I think that each generation of artists reflects its era, and in a peculiar deterministic way, they can't escape the “mood” that they are born into. When contemporary artists draw inspiration from the past, they can't truly replicate the sound, mood, or, in this case, fame. Take fashion, for example; even with the current generation adopting an "early 2000s" Y2K style, they still look distinctly Gen-Z. Time is both within us and a force that is stronger than us. That's why I argue we can't replicate "stars" from the past; the world evolves, and new standards of stardom emerge. Even Billie's fame isn't comparable to previous generations; she embodies a completely new kind of fame, and I appreciate that. People cling to old standards when they should embrace the present.
UnusualBoy Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Some of you really hate Britney huh? Anyway, Gaga kind of did in 2009-2011 and Taylor is doing it right now.
zzmyth Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Britney was never and will never be on Madonna and Michael's level. Anyway... In recent pop music history... I think Taylor, Beyonce, Rihanna, Shakira and Gaga (in 2010) are the best examples of an omnipresent pop referent 1
Digitalism Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 38 minutes ago, JennyWayne said: Britney never reached Madonna/MJ level of fame. Peak Gaga, peak Taylor and peak Britney are at roughly the same level of fame This is it
Britney Spears Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Harry Styles is bigger than all 3 already 3 1
Trent W Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 This forum is strange. No one here experienced MJ or Madonna’s peak, you have to be like 45-50 at least to experience their peaks. The most famous person I experienced in my lifetime was Britney Spears. That’s all I know Gaga was close in 2010 Taylor is definitely the closest too right now, but her success commercially is still a lot bigger than her celebrity if that makes sense. But Taylor is definitely up there this year 5 3
By the Water Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Gagging over book sales while downplaying albums sales, streams, tour gross, social media engagement, etc 3 5
airplane Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 rihanna is more famous than two of them 2 4 1
BOOMBAYAH Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) One theory could be that artists now "specialise" in different segments of fame that previous mega-famous celebrities did, but can't embody all of them. I think if you had a singer with the omnipresence of peak Beyoncé (referenced everywhere and known as the "Queen"), media presence of peak Britney Spears (tabloid culture, mega interest in personal life), artistic provocation and innovation of peak Madonna (constantly pushing the boundaries both socially and artistically), and fanbase and GP support of Taylor Swift (massive fanbase and massive GP support with as much musical interest as personal-life interest), you might have something akin to MJ. But again, I think the time we live in now wouldn't allow for an artist like this to even exist. Edited October 25, 2023 by BOOMBAYAH 1
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