Ms. Togekiss Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Janet is a forgotten nonfactor. Good for her for having her Hot 100 records tho 1 9
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted October 22, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted October 22, 2023 Yes, of course. These are classics. 2
nostalgic Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Well, yes. My mom is/was a Janet stan so I grew up listening to all these classics
Cain Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 I only knew Rhythm Nation (which weirdly didn’t go #1) but thank god I got into Ms Jackson’s discography and discovered this amazing album
A1SinceDay1 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 10 hours ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: Cant believe you are using pure sales to put her above many current era girls. Also use equivalent method to determine best selling female artist in Asia. She won't be top ten. You girls are lucky popping in a cassette and playing it on repeat never counter tows3rd chart points, which is ,basically what streaming is today. Because Janet would slaughter your faves even then. She was an absolute radio darling whose singles were spun around the clock 24/7. 1 1
tiagol88 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 A bit off topic but it's weird how so many pop eras from women are forgotten decades after. Madonna has plenty of ww #1 hits that are forgotten, like Mariah, Celine, Whitney, Janet as well, Cher, etc... Even the biggest hit from the 80's in the USA, Physical is yet to reach 100M streams on spotify Meanwhile plenty of male rock hits from back then have hit 1b and keep rising every year 2
Sergi91 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 I didn’t know their names but knew one of them blocked Madonna from going #1 1
Scott Borchetta Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Why do people act like artists listing someone as an influence means that person is known to the GP? Janet can be as influential as she wants, the GP still does not know her music like that. It's just an unfortunate reality. 2
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, A1SinceDay1 said: You girls are lucky popping in a cassette and playing it on repeat never counter tows3rd chart points, which is ,basically what streaming is today. Because Janet would slaughter your faves even then. She was an absolute radio darling whose singles were spun around the clock 24/7. She couldn't slaughter her rivals back then. What makes u think she will slaughter today?🤣 She is forgotten and has terrible streaming stats. Her album sales are absolutely below the level of other mpgs of her time, despite debuting in sales era. 4
Armani? Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 7 hours ago, Scott Borchetta said: Why do people act like artists listing someone as an influence means that person is known to the GP? Janet can be as influential as she wants, the GP still does not know her music like that. It's just an unfortunate reality. You mean forgot about her music? They have obviously heard her music 1
Scott Borchetta Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Armani? said: You mean forgot about her music? They have obviously heard her music well americans forgot, most people outside america never knew 2
Saint James Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 still don't know them now. i like some janet songs but not many 1
Frozen99 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 i'm from europe so no. btw the title track didn't hit #1? it's my most fave song of hers.
Mystic Boy Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 4:42 PM, BnPac said: I'm don't think it was through Atrl but I learned about this album very late. Despite not being a stan or anything, growing up I knew her songs but not a single one from this album. The Velvet Rope and All For You in particular were her most successful albums in France. I grew up knowing their songs plus Janet's. From all her albums, RN is the one, I think, that reached less globally. I never knew about it which is weird because in the US, it seems to be her most impactful. Yeah this. Unfortunately, she was pretty a non factor in Europe in general before "Janet" and especially "The Velvet Rope" Her first legit hit here was "Whoops Now" in France 1
PopThatCorn Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, Mystic Boy said: Yeah this. Unfortunately, she was pretty a non factor in Europe in general before "Janet" and especially "The Velvet Rope" Her first legit hit here was "Whoops Now" in France Thats not true for all of Europe tho. Control had multiple Top 10 singles in the UK, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland.... The Control album charted for 72 weeks in the UK and 66 weeks in the Netherlands. At the very least she was a big star in Dutch speaking regions, established hitmaker in the UK, and rising star in Germany etc. Rhythm Nation was too American and the singles underperformed but the album still debuted at #4 in the UK, went Platinum, and the tour was completely sold-out. She wasn't some nobody. Just because Janet didn't break into France until the mid-90s doesn't mean she was non-factor elsewhere. Plus at least she eventually did become big in France. Many people's faves on this very site have never had 1/10 of Janet's success in France. 3
Mystic Boy Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, PopThatCorn said: Thats not true for all of Europe tho. Control had multiple Top 10 singles in the UK, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland.... The Control album charted for 72 weeks in the UK and 66 weeks in the Netherlands. At the very least she was a big star in Dutch speaking regions, established hitmaker in the UK, and rising star in Germany etc. Rhythm Nation was too American and the singles underperformed but the album still debuted at #4 in the UK, went Platinum, and the tour was completely sold-out. She wasn't some nobody. Just because Janet didn't break into France until the mid-90s doesn't mean she was non-factor elsewhere. Plus at least she eventually did become big in France. Many people's faves on this very site have never had 1/10 of Janet's success in France. I'm not shading miss Jackson. Of course she had some success in Europe during her first years but nothing groundbreaking compared to her monumental success in the US and Japan. Her first 2 albums barely scrapped platinum in Europe and her having some success here and there, confirms that she wasn't a force, especially compared to her peers. And there's nothing wrong about it, Just facts.
TipToe Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 Yes because after the 04 Superbowl i became addicted to the RN performance and searched her discography. If i depended on my flop country radio stations i would only know Janet for her "All For You" era.
dumbsparce Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 I don't know them now either. I've probably listened to all of them at some point but I have a hard time remembering which songs came from which albums.
GreatestLoveofAll Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 who cares? the fact that im aware of them now is what matters. such bops! 1
Capris Groove Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 OF COURSE! There was a wide variety of music in my house growing up and Ms. Jackson was in the rolodex. 1
Oktober Knight Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 I grew up with Janet's music, so yes. All cassiques 1
Nnnv Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 I still don’t know any of them , even after joining atrl 2
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