base talk "Rhythm nation 1814" had 4 #1 singles, did you know them before joining ATRL?

[Stankonia]

9 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

Janet is a non factor in Asia so I didn't know most of her songs, even when migrating to the U.S., it wasn't until I got into pop culture that I learned about her songs.

 

Still don't know a single one of her songs aside from All for You, a career ending bop!

It's funny that so many K-Pop and J-Pop artists are influenced by a "non-factor", I wonder how they even know of her!

 

Best selling internatinal female artists in Asia:

 

1.Mariah Carey 31m

2.Madonna 20.2m

3.Celine Dion 18m

4.Whitney Houston 14.3m

5.Enya 12.5m

6.Taylor Swift 11.9m

7.Britney Spears 8.8m

8.Avril Lavigne 7m

9.Janet Jackson 5.2m

10.Lady Gaga 4.4m

11.Sade 3.9m

12.Beyonce 3m

13.Jennifer Lopez 2.98m

14.Barbra Streisand 2.91m

15.Alanis Morissette 2.8m

 

In Japan, Janet is one of the most successful foreign female artists of all time. In 1990, she shattered records selling out the massive Tokyo Dome in just 7 minutes. That same year, Rhythm Nation 1814 (1989) was a breakthrough success selling over 500,000 copies, described by Billboard Magazine as a “huge number for a foreign musician”.

 

In the late 80s and early 90s, Janet achieved unlikely success in China, scoring a Platinum album with Rhythm Nation in both Hong Kong and Taiwan. Countless of her biggest hits were translated to Cantonese and released by both rising and established superstars in the Cantopop market including industry titans Danny Chan and Leslie Cheung. In 1990, the Rhythm Nation World Tour sold-out three dates in Hong Kong despite a typically icy reception towards western artists. Her 1995 compilation Design Of A Decade was a massive success in Taiwan, being re-issued multiple times and becoming her best selling album in the region.

 

Even on mainland China, Janet’s albums were readily available as reported by Billboard. While surveying the local stores in Shanghai in October 1997, Janet’s Runaway (Design Of A Decade) was one of the very few western releases “widely found in stores” for $Y89 and a salesman “pointed to Janet Jackson and the Spice Girls” when asking for new releases. That same year, the release of The Velvet Rope was cited as helping raise fourth quarter sales in Asia.

 

In 1995, Janet embarked on her first tour of South East Asia. While most of her peers did not tour Asia outside of Japan, the janet. World Tour visited Singapore, The Philippines and Thailand. Upon arriving in both Manila and Bangkok, Janet was mobbed by legions of fans with the frenzy garnering the attention of international media. Unable to satisfy demand, five thousand fans were reported to have gathered outside Janet’s sole concert in Manila. The sold-out success followed the release of janet. in 1993, which was reported by Billboard in early 1995 to have garnered blockbuster sales of over 400,000 copies in South East Asia alone. The 1993 album additionally saw success in various Asian markets notoriously hard to break, being certified Gold in South Korea and the underdeveloped market of India.

 

Janet was additionally a mainstay on Asian radio stations and music television networks. She has 15 #1 hits on the Japanese Tokio Hot 100 airplay chart and seven chart toppers on the Osakan Hot 100. In 1995, Billboard provided a sample of what videos were played during an hour of both MTV ASIA and Channel V. Both channels played videos by Janet; You Want This and Whoops Now. Her music videos have also been hailed as being the most popular among female artists in the 90s, alongside peer Madonna.

While Asia did not have a notable singles market for western artists, Janet’s music helped sell millions of compilation albums. That’s The Way Love Goes and Again were both featured in releases of the hugely successful Malaysian series Megahit. Hits such as Whoops Now, Runaway, Together Again, Every Time, and All For You were featured on the even more lucrative Now series created for Asian markets outside of Japan.

 

Not too bad for such a non factor!

 

OT: Yes, I knew all for them.

[Kayseri Mantisi]

I don't know any Janet Jackson songs (i'm a gay ATRLer born in 2003 and not American) 

Edited October 22, 2023 by Kayseri Mantisi

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

LMAO yes. I remember when I stole the Rhythm Nation cassette album when I was a kid from my aunt because I thought the cover looked so cool

 

But a couple years later, I returned it to her when I moved to another city for school

[tachiwaka]

14 minutes ago, makeme said:

nnn i'm white and have parents who don't give a damn about ha and i'm still educated. 

 

 

My husband is white and only knew All 4 U before we met. A travesty!

[GentleEarthquake]

I didn't even know her before joining ATRL

[MingYouToo]

11 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

It's funny that so many K-Pop and J-Pop artists are influenced by a "non-factor", I wonder how they even know of her!

 

Best selling internatinal female artists in Asia:

 

1.Mariah Carey 31m

2.Madonna 20.2m

3.Celine Dion 18m

4.Whitney Houston 14.3m

5.Enya 12.5m

6.Taylor Swift 11.9m

7.Britney Spears 8.8m

8.Avril Lavigne 7m

9.Janet Jackson 5.2m

10.Lady Gaga 4.4m

11.Sade 3.9m

12.Beyonce 3m

13.Jennifer Lopez 2.98m

14.Barbra Streisand 2.91m

15.Alanis Morissette 2.8m

 

In Japan, Janet is one of the most successful foreign female artists of all time. In 1990, she shattered records selling out the massive Tokyo Dome in just 7 minutes. That same year, Rhythm Nation 1814 (1989) was a breakthrough success selling over 500,000 copies, described by Billboard Magazine as a “huge number for a foreign musician”.

 

In the late 80s and early 90s, Janet achieved unlikely success in China, scoring a Platinum album with Rhythm Nation in both Hong Kong and Taiwan. Countless of her biggest hits were translated to Cantonese and released by both rising and established superstars in the Cantopop market including industry titans Danny Chan and Leslie Cheung. In 1990, the Rhythm Nation World Tour sold-out three dates in Hong Kong despite a typically icy reception towards western artists. Her 1995 compilation Design Of A Decade was a massive success in Taiwan, being re-issued multiple times and becoming her best selling album in the region.

 

Even on mainland China, Janet’s albums were readily available as reported by Billboard. While surveying the local stores in Shanghai in October 1997, Janet’s Runaway (Design Of A Decade) was one of the very few western releases “widely found in stores” for $Y89 and a salesman “pointed to Janet Jackson and the Spice Girls” when asking for new releases. That same year, the release of The Velvet Rope was cited as helping raise fourth quarter sales in Asia.

 

In 1995, Janet embarked on her first tour of South East Asia. While most of her peers did not tour Asia outside of Japan, the janet. World Tour visited Singapore, The Philippines and Thailand. Upon arriving in both Manila and Bangkok, Janet was mobbed by legions of fans with the frenzy garnering the attention of international media. Unable to satisfy demand, five thousand fans were reported to have gathered outside Janet’s sole concert in Manila. The sold-out success followed the release of janet. in 1993, which was reported by Billboard in early 1995 to have garnered blockbuster sales of over 400,000 copies in South East Asia alone. The 1993 album additionally saw success in various Asian markets notoriously hard to break, being certified Gold in South Korea and the underdeveloped market of India.

 

Janet was additionally a mainstay on Asian radio stations and music television networks. She has 15 #1 hits on the Japanese Tokio Hot 100 airplay chart and seven chart toppers on the Osakan Hot 100. In 1995, Billboard provided a sample of what videos were played during an hour of both MTV ASIA and Channel V. Both channels played videos by Janet; You Want This and Whoops Now. Her music videos have also been hailed as being the most popular among female artists in the 90s, alongside peer Madonna.

While Asia did not have a notable singles market for western artists, Janet’s music helped sell millions of compilation albums. That’s The Way Love Goes and Again were both featured in releases of the hugely successful Malaysian series Megahit. Hits such as Whoops Now, Runaway, Together Again, Every Time, and All For You were featured on the even more lucrative Now series created for Asian markets outside of Japan.

 

Not too bad for such a non factor!

 

OT: Yes, I knew all for them.

getting this bothered with a whole ass essay over people not knowing her  but okay clock my 'non factor in Asia' statement I guess. Regardless of whether Janet is the blueprint, K-pop idols cite Beyonce and Britney, not Janet. Maybe the Gen 1 98-03' idols but not the 2010s.

 

OT: Still didn't know her not until I got into pop culture. But she truly made her mark now that I know about her work and career! Multidecade icon!

Edited October 22, 2023 by MingYouToo

[VeniceBeach]

Of course not (Europe) 

[Moth 2 The Flame]

4 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

getting this bothered with a whole ass essay over people not knowing her  but okay clock my 'non factor in Asia' statement I guess. Regardless of whether Janet is the blueprint, K-pop idols cite Beyonce and Britney, not Janet. Maybe the Gen 1 98-03' idols but not the 2010s.

 

OT: Still didn't know her not until I got into pop culture. But she truly made her mark now that I know about her work and career! Multidecade icon!

Got7 disagrees, so does WannaOne. Both debuted in the 2010s

 

 

 

[blown away]

No. I only knew about Escapade and Black Cat. Miss You Much was vaguely familiar.

 

Not surprised at that though, since Rhythm Nation's sound wasn't exactly popular in my country at the time (or ever) and its singles didn't chart that high. Especially compared to the Control singles.

[4Real]

Probably not. But wait did RN the song not reach #1? That's disappointing

 

[tost1]

Only Love Will Never Do a few times in vh1

[MingYouToo]

12 minutes ago, Moth 2 The Flame said:

Got7 disagrees, so does WannaOne. Both debuted in the 2010s

 

 

 

welp 2 out of godknows how many kpop groups out there, sure.

 

point still stands i did not know who janet jackson was not until i got into pop culture.

[Illuminati]

No I wasn't born yet in 1814

Edited October 22, 2023 by Illuminati

[nadiamendell]

42 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

It's funny that so many K-Pop and J-Pop artists are influenced by a "non-factor", I wonder how they even know of her!

 

Best selling internatinal female artists in Asia:

 

1.Mariah Carey 31m

2.Madonna 20.2m

3.Celine Dion 18m

4.Whitney Houston 14.3m

5.Enya 12.5m

6.Taylor Swift 11.9m

7.Britney Spears 8.8m

8.Avril Lavigne 7m

9.Janet Jackson 5.2m

10.Lady Gaga 4.4m

11.Sade 3.9m

12.Beyonce 3m

13.Jennifer Lopez 2.98m

14.Barbra Streisand 2.91m

15.Alanis Morissette 2.8m

 

In Japan, Janet is one of the most successful foreign female artists of all time. In 1990, she shattered records selling out the massive Tokyo Dome in just 7 minutes. That same year, Rhythm Nation 1814 (1989) was a breakthrough success selling over 500,000 copies, described by Billboard Magazine as a “huge number for a foreign musician”.

 

In the late 80s and early 90s, Janet achieved unlikely success in China, scoring a Platinum album with Rhythm Nation in both Hong Kong and Taiwan. Countless of her biggest hits were translated to Cantonese and released by both rising and established superstars in the Cantopop market including industry titans Danny Chan and Leslie Cheung. In 1990, the Rhythm Nation World Tour sold-out three dates in Hong Kong despite a typically icy reception towards western artists. Her 1995 compilation Design Of A Decade was a massive success in Taiwan, being re-issued multiple times and becoming her best selling album in the region.

 

Even on mainland China, Janet’s albums were readily available as reported by Billboard. While surveying the local stores in Shanghai in October 1997, Janet’s Runaway (Design Of A Decade) was one of the very few western releases “widely found in stores” for $Y89 and a salesman “pointed to Janet Jackson and the Spice Girls” when asking for new releases. That same year, the release of The Velvet Rope was cited as helping raise fourth quarter sales in Asia.

 

In 1995, Janet embarked on her first tour of South East Asia. While most of her peers did not tour Asia outside of Japan, the janet. World Tour visited Singapore, The Philippines and Thailand. Upon arriving in both Manila and Bangkok, Janet was mobbed by legions of fans with the frenzy garnering the attention of international media. Unable to satisfy demand, five thousand fans were reported to have gathered outside Janet’s sole concert in Manila. The sold-out success followed the release of janet. in 1993, which was reported by Billboard in early 1995 to have garnered blockbuster sales of over 400,000 copies in South East Asia alone. The 1993 album additionally saw success in various Asian markets notoriously hard to break, being certified Gold in South Korea and the underdeveloped market of India.

 

Janet was additionally a mainstay on Asian radio stations and music television networks. She has 15 #1 hits on the Japanese Tokio Hot 100 airplay chart and seven chart toppers on the Osakan Hot 100. In 1995, Billboard provided a sample of what videos were played during an hour of both MTV ASIA and Channel V. Both channels played videos by Janet; You Want This and Whoops Now. Her music videos have also been hailed as being the most popular among female artists in the 90s, alongside peer Madonna.

While Asia did not have a notable singles market for western artists, Janet’s music helped sell millions of compilation albums. That’s The Way Love Goes and Again were both featured in releases of the hugely successful Malaysian series Megahit. Hits such as Whoops Now, Runaway, Together Again, Every Time, and All For You were featured on the even more lucrative Now series created for Asian markets outside of Japan.

 

Not too bad for such a non factor!

 

OT: Yes, I knew all for them.

END them! 

[Stankonia]

3 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

getting this bothered with a whole ass essay over people not knowing her  but okay clock my 'non factor in Asia' statement I guess. Regardless of whether Janet is the blueprint, K-pop idols cite Beyonce and Britney, not Janet. Maybe the Gen 1 98-03' idols but not the 2010s.

 

OT: Still didn't know her not until I got into pop culture. But she truly made her mark now that I know about her work and career! Multidecade icon!

How am I bothered? I didn't write that "essay", I simply quoted it in an attempt to educate you.

 

So we went from she's a non factor to she isn't relevant anymore and no K-Pop idols acknowlege her influence after the early 00's. Progress!

 

Well here's a few post 2003 quotes from K-Pop arists/producers I found. Looks like you're wrong again.

 

Yoo Young-jin (유영진)

Prolific songwriter and producer Yoo Young-jin described Janet’s Rhythm Nation to be influential on his style of producing in a 2010 interview. He reflected that while working as a dancer for Korean broadcaster MBC, Rhythm Nation was extremely popular. The style would later influence his approach to producing dance music for countless K-Pop idol groups, aiming to “show a variety of performance elements within a song”.

 

Lee Hyori (이효리)

South Korean icon Lee Hyori has described Janet as her “forever idol” and “Jackson unnie” during an interview. She also records music sporting a Janet sweater she calls her favourite. In 2008, her reality show Off The Record featured various Janet songs including the Discipline album track So Much Betta.

 

Girls’ Generation (SNSD) (소녀시대)

Among the biggest girl groups of all time, SNSD have performed multiple routines to Janet’s music. They first covered Rhythm Nation during their debut Into the New World tour and at the 2009 KBS Song Festival (KBS 가요대축제). Member Yuri also performed a solo cover of If during the 2011 Girls’ Generation Tour.

In 2007, girl group Wonder Girls (원더걸스) performed a cover of Together Again during their reality show MTV Wonder Girls. Group Kara (카라) performed Son Of A Gun during the 2009 KBS Song Festival (KBS 가요대축제). After School (애프터스쿨) covered Rhythm Nation during a performance on the Korean variety show Kim Jung-eun’s Chocolate. In 2018, NATURE (네이처) released a cover of Rhythm Nation to their YouTube channel.

 

CL of K-Pop group 2ne1 cited Janet as one of her biggest inspirations in a 2020 Instagram post. In 2023, FIFTY FIFTY (피프티 피프티) sampled Together Again on their single Barbie Dreams, recorded for the film soundtrack for Barbie (2023).

 

On the making of Red Velvet's "Automatic":

During a podcast, Klein revealed that what seemed like an iPhone recording of girls dancing to Janet Jackson's "Got 'til It's Gone" (1997) was shown to him. He told that he was asked to make a song from the shown video and agreed to do so. However, Klein said that he needed the same BPM for the song in order to fit with the dance tempo.

 

In this video, BTS, GOT7 and Wanna One, all acknowledge Janet's influence before presenting her with the Inspiration Award.

 

 

Two of the best-selling Japanese artists of all time:

 

Namie Amuro (安室 奈美恵)

One of the most iconic and successful artists in Japanese history, Namie Amuro has a prolific career recording both J-Pop and R&B music. Performing with the musical group Super Monkey’s, Amuro covered various Janet songs including Rhythm Nation. In 1996, she performed Black Cat on Japanese karaoke show The Yoru mo Hippare with the group MAX as backup. In 2004, Amuro introduced and presented Janet with the Inspiration Award at the annual MTV Music Awards Japan. Amuro has since remarked in an interview that Janet was her greatest influence:

“Before my debut, I watched videos and listened to songs by Janet Jackson. I was very impressed by how she could sing and dance on a stylish stage. I thought I could learn from her and do so myself. If I had not discovered her, I probably would not have been able to do so.”

 

Hikaru Utada (宇多田 ヒカル)

After the massive success of her debut album which became the best selling album of all time in Japan, Japanese-American singer Hikaru Utada collaborated with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, notorious for their continued work and success with Janet. The first song they recorded was Addicted to You (1999) which features a sample of That’s The Way Love Goes. The single was remixed for it’s release as the lead single of her second album Distance (2001) with the original version titled the Underwater Mix. It reached #1 on the Oricon Singles Chart and sold over a million copies. In 2020, Utada selected the song as one of her favourites stating how honored she was that Jimmy and Terry “threw in a little riff from a classic Janet Jackson song of their making”.

[Jamie Starr]

Yup. Sad to see so many users proud of their ignorance towards Pop greatness.

[Sheep]

I'm from the US so yes, obviously.  

[BnPac]

I'm don't think it was through Atrl but I learned about this album very late. Despite not being a stan or anything, growing up I knew her songs but not a single one from this album. 

 

The Velvet Rope and All For You in particular were her most successful albums in France. I grew up knowing their songs plus Janet's. From all her albums, RN is the one, I think, that reached less globally. I never knew about it which is weird because in the US, it seems to be her most impactful. 

Edited October 22, 2023 by BnPac

[Stankonia]

13 minutes ago, 4Real said:

Probably not. But wait did RN the song not reach #1? That's disappointing

 

It was blocked by Phil Collins' Another Day In Paradise for 2 weeks.

[Sheep]

It's always black pink fans making a fool out of kpop fans 

[TaggedGalaxy]

Miss You Much and LWNDWY yes they are classics

 

The other two I never heard

[Into The Void]

I knew a few but not many

[Stankonia]

The OP's likes So transparent

[Moth 2 The Flame]

8 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

welp 2 out of godknows how many kpop groups out there, sure.

 

point still stands i did not know who janet jackson was not until i got into pop culture.

Point wasn't asking if you knew about her before you got into pop culture or not in the first place, but the #1 singles off Rhythm Nation and fair enough if you didn't but you took it further to downplay her legacy. And of course, it's mostly the same type of threads repeated in a different way to ignite and gather the OJH to repeat the whole I didn't know about her before I joined ATRL/local unknown posts. Especially knowing the OP's username and their previous posts about their dislike of Janet which most here have taken the bait.

 

You've been on this forum for a number of years now to know this and even decided to actively contribute to that downplay of Janet's legacy by that "non-factor in Asia" post, maybe secretly hoping no one would clock you?

[Apolonio ₃₄]

I’m a huge Janet stan so yes.