discussion Is It Immoral To Buy Sex?

[jediah556]

1 minute ago, Inner Beauty said:

Sex that is bought is coerced sex, and coerced sex is rape.

girl.....is it theft if someone put something on a shelf with a price tag and someone paid for it? just because it's a cooter doesnt mean it's not also a commodity 

[Breathe On Moi]

2 minutes ago, The Man Who said:

if you’re sleeping with a sex worker, it’s literally just a business transaction. 

I know the OP is getting dragged rn, but this is so sad…is it really possible for a human being to have no feelings to that level? I’ve always wondered about that. I’d actually be interested on reading as to how someone is able to reach that point. 

[jediah556]

Just now, Breathe On Moi said:

I know the OP is getting dragged rn, but this is so sad…is it really possible for a human being to have no feelings to that level? I’ve always wondered about that. I’d actually be interested on reading as to how someone is able to reach that point. 

it's not sad - some people just have a different relationship with sex than you do...

[dumbsparce]

6 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Obviously unattractive and neurodivergwnt people have struggles with sex, but is the solution to pay for it? Or should we help them in other way? I don’t understand why an unattractive person should be entitled to sex with an attractive person. 

They're not, that's why they resort to buying it. Sex workers have the option to decline clients but if they're willing to do it then I don't see the issue. One gets sex, the other gets money and they're all happy.

[CokeDestroyer]

Some people have meltdowns having sex w people they like trust me i know

2 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said:

I know the OP is getting dragged rn, but this is so sad…is it really possible for a human being to have no feelings to that level? I’ve always wondered about that. I’d actually be interested on reading as to how someone is able to reach that point. 

 

[GraceRandolph]

1 minute ago, jediah556 said:

it's not sad - some people just have a different relationship with sex than you do...

Viewing human’s sexual capacity as a commodity is pretty sad.

[Devin]

I hate to put it like this ….. a lot of people out here are married/in relationships with people for financial gain and stability. Would we consider that paying for sex even tho its indirect yet the same motive?  

[GraceRandolph]

1 minute ago, dumbsparce said:

They're not, that's why they resort to buying it. Sex workers have the option to decline clients but if they're willing to do it then I don't see the issue. One gets sex, the other gets money and they're all happy.

Not all sex workers are in the financial position to reject clients. 

[Machete]

A firm YES! 

 

Liberals are so ethically confused. They think shaming sex work industry and shaming sex workers are one in the same. 

[dumbsparce]

4 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Not all sex workers are in the financial position to reject clients. 

This is true, I'm talking about those who are under an agency or have an onlyfans. Not those who are working the streets or are being trafficked. That's an entirely different situation.

Edited October 10, 2023 by dumbsparce

[GraceRandolph]

Just now, Machete said:

A firm YES! 

 

Liberals are so ethically confused. They think shaming sex work industry and shaming sex workers are one in the same. 

Yep, it makes it really hard to talk about. I just think a better world would be a sex positive and liberated world where adults can make the choice to have sex with who they want without coercion of any kind.

[jediah556]

2 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Viewing human’s sexual capacity as a commodity is pretty sad.

did you know that you can have multiple views of the same thing? I dont view my boyfriend's sexuality as a commodity, but if someone were to be selling it I would. things exist with context, something you appear to LOVE ignoring, which completely changes the meaning of what you're viewing and how you're interacting it. 

[Breathe On Moi]

5 minutes ago, jediah556 said:

it's not sad - some people just have a different relationship with sex than you do...

understood, I think that’s why I said I’d love to read on how it’s possible to reach that point, no shade. 
 

3 minutes ago, CokeDestroyer said:

Some people have meltdowns having sex w people they like trust me i know

 

elaborate 

[CokeDestroyer]

I had a fling with a pastor once and he kept on talking about how sex work was not it for his interpretation of things and i was always just kept staring at his neck bcoz he had really great neck stubble

2 minutes ago, Machete said:

A firm YES! 

 

Liberals are so ethically confused. They think shaming sex work industry and shaming sex workers are one in the same. 

 

[jediah556]

also, as someone who has been paid for sex, I didnt feel exploited, coerced, preyed upon, or anything of the sorts. I needed money, he had it. I had a skill, he wanted it. we went our separate ways and my wallet was fatter. 

[CokeDestroyer]

I gave head to a close friend once and i had a visceral meltdown 30 mins after i had to go to mcdonalds to buy them ice cream rq 

1 minute ago, Breathe On Moi said:

understood, I think that’s why I said I’d love to read on how it’s possible to reach that point, no shade. 
 

elaborate 

 

[jediah556]

Just now, Breathe On Moi said:

understood, I think that’s why I said I’d love to read on how it’s possible to reach that point, no shade. 
 

elaborate 

the statement of "how it's possible to reach that point" is so dramatic. it's not a point that someone reaches, it's just a mentality that some people have and some people don't? I've never placed sex as some high-importance concept that needed to be protected and revered. sex is something that humans do, we're animals, and my interpersonal relationships have very different experiences with sex than a casual sex situation. it's entirely contextual and situational 

[Karla Cabello]

buying intimacy is weird (and pathethic for me). but sex work is just like any other work in a capitalist society.

 

[GraceRandolph]

Just now, jediah556 said:

also, as someone who has been paid for sex, I didnt feel exploited, coerced, preyed upon, or anything of the sorts. I needed money, he had it. I had a skill, he wanted it. we went our separate ways and my wallet was fatter. 

That’s great for you, but not everyone has had the same experience. A recent expose of the sex trade in Hawaii unveiled that many sex buyers don’t ask their sex workers if they are being trafficked or if they are of age even. 

[Breathe On Moi]

1 minute ago, CokeDestroyer said:

I gave head to a close friend once and i had a visceral meltdown 30 mins after i had to go to mcdonalds to buy them ice cream rq 

 

[jediah556]

Just now, GraceRandolph said:

That’s great for you, but not everyone has had the same experience. A recent expose of the sex trade in Hawaii unveiled that many sex buyers don’t ask their sex workers if they are being trafficked or if they are of age even. 

correct - nobody was denying that there are a ton of people that are in the industry because they're coerced/forced into it. the people that buy that service when they KNOW about that situation are absolute scum. NOT because they're buying sex, but because they're buying a stolen body. you're conflating two different situations that aren't the same imo 

[CokeDestroyer]

Oh no its fine i just go through intense emotions a lot xd dw dw

 

My friends equipment was disappointing tho rip

1 minute ago, Breathe On Moi said:

 

[Devin]

1 minute ago, jediah556 said:

the statement of "how it's possible to reach that point" is so dramatic. it's not a point that someone reaches, it's just a mentality that some people have and some people don't? I've never placed sex as some high-importance concept that needed to be protected and revered. sex is something that humans do, we're animals, and my interpersonal relationships have very different experiences with sex than a casual sex situation. it's entirely contextual and situational 

Your prostitute ass better stand up for ur rights and corner. 

[The Man Who]

1 minute ago, Breathe On Moi said:

I know the OP is getting dragged rn, but this is so sad…is it really possible for a human being to have no feelings to that level? I’ve always wondered about that. I’d actually be interested on reading as to how someone is able to reach that point. 

It’s not really sad, for some people sex is just sex and it doesn’t have to lead to a deeper connection. Not everybody views sex as this big connecting of souls. It’s basically the same as people who have one night stands. It was just about the sex.

 

My friend who used to do escorting actually enjoyed his job and enjoyed being intimate with somebody but he just didn’t want to be in a relationship. I don’t think he ever set out to be an escort, it was just an opportunity that came along, so he tried it out and liked it.
 

He was earning a lot more money than he did in his normal 9-5 and doing less hours whilst being paid to go on dates and holidays. Not all of his clients wanted sex, some of them just liked his company, but because he was a pretty horny guy, he didn’t mind the ones that did want sex. 

[jediah556]

I would also like to point out here that the reason why so many sex workers are hurt, killed, exploited, trafficked, etc. is that they will get put in jail themselves for prostitution in a lot of countries so they can't go to the police if someone assaults them. they're put in a position in which they cannot be protected by the police, which is why it's dangerous. if it's decriminalized it would be much safer as they wouldn't be punished for seeking protection.