Gov Hooka Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Rebel Lion said: II don't think you should generalize all Israel and its supporters as nazi. Not a good look. If the shoe fits. They struck a Palestinian refugee camp in Gaza earlier today, children were killed, to thunderous applause by its murderous supporters around the world. They’ve chosen a genocidal fascist position so they will rest with that label. 2 1 2
airplane Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rebel Lion said: I would rather they enter the Gaza strip and eradicated Hamas without civilian casualties and hopefully leave Gaza without anymore interference. Yeah but that's not happening because Israel is aiming to flatten Gaza (which means killing every inhabitant in the strip). This coincides with the ethnic cleansing of Palestinian's they've been doing for the past 75 years. This incident just gives them an excuse to execute this. Edited October 9, 2023 by airplane 6
Communion Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 46 minutes ago, Rebel Lion said: Maybe they just want their hostages back.
byzantium Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rebel Lion said: Again. What do you expect to happen when Hamas did the same thing to them. I'm not justifying Israel's actions. I would rather they enter the Gaza strip and eradicated Hamas without civilian casualties and hopefully leave Gaza without anymore interference. I expect the country with more power in a conflict to use that power responsibly and seek a peaceful resolution. The fact of the matter is violence begets violence. So long as Israel holds the 2 million people of Gaza hostage under threat of violence giving them no employment opportunities, no respect as humans and no hope for a future, how can they expect peace?
dumbsparce Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Why was op reported simply for delivering the news?
Rebel Lion Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, airplane said: Yeah but that's not happening because Israel is aiming to flatten Gaza (which means killing every inhabitant in the strip). This coincides with the ethnic cleansing they've been doing for the past 75 years. But that's not what's happening though. You don't expect a country to retaliate?
Rebel Lion Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Communion said: Hamas is a terrorist group that takes hostages and it seem like you support that.
Rebel Lion Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, byzantium said: I expect the country with more power in a conflict to use that power responsibly and seek a peaceful resolution. The fact of the matter is violence begets violence. So long as Israel holds the 2 million people of Gaza hostage under threat of violence giving them no employment opportunities, no respect as humans and no hope for a future, how can they expect peace? It's not Israel's job to do so.
CovalentBondage Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, dumbsparce said: Why was op reported simply for delivering the news? Because people here support ethnic cleansing and colonialism.
airplane Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rebel Lion said: But that's not what's happening though. You don't expect a country to retaliate? Retaliate for what? Y'all really think this is an isolated incident and ignore the 75 years of history behind it. Also, Hamas taking hostages might just prevent a full-on invasion because Israel will not want to harm its own citizens in the process. Actually… nevermind Edited October 9, 2023 by airplane 1 2
Rebel Lion Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, airplane said: Retaliate for what? Y'all really think this is an isolated incident and ignore the 75 years of history behind it. Also, Hamas taking hostages might just prevent a full-on invasion because Israel will not want to harm its own citizens in the process. Israel is protecting its citizens which includes Palestinian decedents and Hamas is taking hostages. What's so hard for you to get?
Carter Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, airplane said: Retaliate for what? Y'all really think this is an isolated incident and ignore the 75 years of history behind it. Also, Hamas taking hostages might just prevent a full-on invasion because Israel will not want to harm its own citizens in the process. and if hamas is already in the stolen land why are they bombing gaza not trying to take control of the land of palestine back (now called israel)?
Carter Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Rebel Lion said: Israel is protecting its citizens which includes Palestinian decedents and Hamas is taking hostages. What's so hard for you to get? in exchange for the palestine prisoners? or oh the media didn’t report that out of supporting israel, nothing new
Communion Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rebel Lion said: It's not Israel's job to do so.
byzantium Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rebel Lion said: It's not Israel's job to do so. It's not Israel's job to treat humans outside their borders with the respect that humans deserve? Do you even think about what you are saying? 2 1
ForgottenSoul Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Carter said: I know how this started, im talking about this current conflict which was started by Hamas and now Israel is responding. I disagree with how Israel settlers act but Hamas are going to cause Thousands of deaths for no real benefit. 16 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: What did cause this Hamas is a terrorist organization and its actions must be condemned but shouldn't be an excuse to bomb more civil Palestinians left and right So what should Israel really do here in response? I think both sides are bad whereas people only see Israel as bad. Its a tough situation because both sides basically want to kill everyone on the other side. Edited October 9, 2023 by ForgottenSoul 1
Rebel Lion Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, byzantium said: It's not Israel's job to treat humans outside their borders with the respect that humans deserve? Do you even think about what you are saying? They obviously don't because they took over their land.
Carter Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, ForgottenSoul said: I know how this started, im talking about this current conflict which was started by Hamas and now Israel is responding. I disagree with how Israel settlers act but Hamas are going to cause Thousands of deaths for no real benefit. So what should Israel really do here in response? I think both sides are bad whereas people only see Israel as bad. no one said hamas is good, but people acting brand new like hamas is a terrorist group by trying to reclaim what is theirs 1
Communion Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, ForgottenSoul said: So what should Israel really do here in response? 3
byzantium Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rebel Lion said: They obviously don't because they took over their land. What you are saying, "hypothetically", "if" Israel took over Palestine's land, it would justify extreme behavior?
Carter Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, byzantium said: What you are saying, "hypothetically", "if" Israel took over Palestine's land, it would justify extreme behavior? AN EYE FOR AN EYE israel was doing this to palestine for the last decade or more, why only mattered when people of the land responded? Edited October 9, 2023 by Carter 1
Chemist Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Meanwhile..more Palestinians being killed by the minute and it won't stop until they are all ruble (as per the IDF)
Rebel Lion Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, byzantium said: What you are saying, "hypothetically", "if" Israel took over Palestine's land, it would justify extreme behavior? Israel did take over Palestinian land so why would that make them want to be nice to their neighbors that they took land from. Make it make sense.
byzantium Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Carter said: AN EYE FOR AN EYE Will just lead to more violence. I'm just pointing out how that user has a rather extreme double standard when it comes to this conflict. Its this narrative the oppressed need to be pure and good to deserve human rights, but the oppressors can get away with murder and still be afforded human decency
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