Mr. Blue_Shirt Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 I know some of you are jobless anyway, so you can't relate to striking workers standing up for themselves after their boss tries to scab 6
Into The Void Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, dumbsparce said: I have little sympathy toward people who literally work in Hollywood, that is very much true. I'd rather care for my own surroundings. Which means that if I start seeing **** that makes me roll my eyes every 5 minutes I'm gonna have to start eliminating web spaces I insert myself into. I could not imagine working in or for Hollywood
boysandbombs Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Headlock said: And those that scabbed during it are blacklisted. Like, what is your question? Also the SAG-AGTRA strike is ongoing. Only the WGA strike has ended currently. Girl if you think Drew Barrymore is blacklisted in Hollywood you are out of your actual mind. 1
Headlock Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Insanity said: When I post. Don't respond. I'm tired of you Another brilliant discussion
DAP Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: Literally them with billionaries and rich people: They better save that boot for the other scabs so they pull them up by the straps while they’re at it
loveisdead9582 Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 … I mean… she did do it to herself. Sorry not sorry. That said, there are plenty of writers who would love that position. 2
boysandbombs Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lana Banana said: Why do you think I moved out from there 7 years ago? Haha. I meant here on this thread but ok werk! 🤣 1
Headlock Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, boysandbombs said: Girl if you think Drew Barrymore is blacklisted in Hollywood you are out of your actual mind. So you’re saying she’s so rich and powerful that she could easily have held her ground against empty threats from executives and therefore does not need any of the sympathy y’all are throwing at her?
DAP Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, dumbsparce said: I have little sympathy toward people who literally work in Hollywood, that is very much true. I'd rather care for my own surroundings. Which means that if I start seeing **** that makes me roll my eyes every 5 minutes I'm gonna have to start eliminating web spaces I insert myself into. And that’s a terrible attitude to have because there are people in your community that are exploited like them and have every reason to organize collectively like the union workers in Hollywood. 4 1
Into The Void Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, dumbsparce said: It's not about the definition of the word. I know how to use google if that were the case. Never once have I seen this word being used so frequently until it was relevant to Hollywood therefore gaining more exposure. Then the usual chain reaction follows: people who frequent social media for gossip start misusing this fancy word they saw somewhere. It then becomes mainstream and ends up losing all its meaning. I never heard the word scab during the last writers strike i remember in 2008? I can't think of another one. Idk why people jump on u for having never heard of a word when its not common knowledge. 2023 is the first time I've ever heard anyone use or heard of the word scab Edited October 5, 2023 by Insanity
Headlock Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 I can’t remember when this word was used before, it must never have happened then! 2 2
dumbsparce Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Insanity said: I never heard the word scab during the last writers strike i remember in 2008? I can't think of another one. Idk why people jump on u for having never heard of a word when its not common knowledge. Well, these are the caring & good people I guess Oop! Seems you've caught a stray already. Good luck dealing with locked heads! Edited October 5, 2023 by dumbsparce
Emperial Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Karla Cabello said: well Is Ths real?
Into The Void Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, dumbsparce said: Well, these are the caring & good people I guess Oop! Seems you've caught a stray already. Good luck dealing with locked heads! I put some people on ignore
JustLikeHoney Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: Literally them with billionaries and rich people: I mean yes they aren't filthy rich but writers of a TV show like Drew's probably make 80k to 200k. Why should the janitorial staff that makes 32k not cross a picket line? I doubt writers would do the same for them if their union went on strike. I don't understand why a talk show that can get by without writers should not come back on air to make sure the rest of the staff gets paid. I understand why scripted shows should not come back but this seems like a weird comment to make about people who make 6 figures wanting to increase those six figures. I feel more sorry for SAG union members that are driving Ubers than Drew's writers. Edited October 5, 2023 by JustLikeHoney 1
Gui Blackout Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 It's understandable that you don't want to work anymore for someone you just had issues with, but the show will quickly and easily find new writers and they'll be unemployed... I hope they thought this through.
Mr. Blue_Shirt Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 If this happened to someone like Bill Maher or Jimmy Fallon, some of you would 100% side with the workers. But of course this is Drew Barrymore, the most lovable talk show host, so she needs your defense after knowingly trying to cross the picket line not even a month ago I guess you guys hate the concept of consequences if its happens to your favorite celebrities, huh? 7
Vermillion Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 This thread is a dumpster fire, Jesus. I’m going to wait to make any judgments, seeing as this show was already on life support prior to her pissing off the writers. If the defense of propping up others livelihoods that were also suffering is really going to fly, hence the top purported reason for continuing, transparency not just from Drew but those people ALSO suffering at the hands of the writers would be ideal. But we’re never going to get that, which is the biggest problem here. I’m placing safe bets that the writers had plenty of time during said strike to think about their exit plan so that upon their return now they were prepared to say screw you. Drew will be fine and again the writers who’ve chosen to leave will to. The others on the show, likely not so much. But they’ve also seen this coming. People can make industry specific arguments here, but in the larger context of artists not being able to survive on their craft, what this show provides is at the bottom of the totem pole, period, point blank. Spend the energy trying to convince yourself otherwise elsewhere.
dumbsparce Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, DAP said: And that’s a terrible attitude to have because there are people in your community that are exploited like them and have every reason to organize collectively like the union workers in Hollywood. Well that's the point. I do care about MY community. A community that couldn't be further from Hollywood's "working class". I'm not obligated to care about a writer making 20k a month instead of 50 when my people are working day and night for nickels. 4
Blade Runner Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 50 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said: I mean yes they aren't filthy rich but writers of a TV show like Drew's probably make 80k to 200k. Why should the janitorial staff that makes 32k not cross a picket line? I doubt writers would do the same for them if their union went on strike. I don't understand why a talk show that can get by without writers should not come back on air to make sure the rest of the staff gets paid. I understand why scripted shows should not come back but this seems like a weird comment to make about people who make 6 figures wanting to increase those six figures. I feel more sorry for SAG union members that are driving Ubers than Drew's writers. It doesn't matter what you think it's right or not. Drew is a scab, strikes are supposed to be disruptive, and manipulative narratives like the one you're describing didn't work. Everyone deserves better working conditions, including those janitors suddenly some people care about so much. 2
Rep2000 Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, dumbsparce said: Is "scab" the new toxic / manipulative / bigot / gaslight / culture etc ? I've stopped using those words bc they make me feel like yet another twitter user who lacks critical thinking and uses whatever new daily buzzword they see on their feed thinking they're smart and educated. Yeah, I think you just answer your own question, dear. It just means strikebreaker. And Drew is also technically on strike rn since she's an actor. But she isn't, so... Edited October 5, 2023 by Rep2000 1 1
JustLikeHoney Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: It doesn't matter what you think it's right or not. Drew is a scab, strikes are supposed to be disruptive, and manipulative narratives like the one you're describing didn't work. Everyone deserves better working conditions, including those janitors suddenly some people care about so much. They are supposed to be disruptive to the areas they are needed. They are not really necessary for daytime talk shows. Like I said before other daytime talkshows actually did go on air without writers. They are necessary for scripted shows and late night comedy shows. Which is more than enough for them to get the increase in pay they are looking for. And I do think they should get an increase. But this whole Drew thing is just extra nonsense. She never went through with going on air without them. She was shown she was wrong. She changed her mind. Edited October 5, 2023 by JustLikeHoney
AMIT Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, dumbsparce said: Well that's the point. I do care about MY community. A community that couldn't be further from Hollywood's "working class". I'm not obligated to care about a writer making 20k a month instead of 50 when my people are working day and night for nickels. You fell for a by-the-numbers dividing tactic used by the ruling class to throw a wedge into the working class and make it harder for us all - yes, including across borders and oceans - to band together in order to further our political goals. Congrats, Mr. "I don't want to sound like some twitter user with no critical thinking skills". Edited October 5, 2023 by AMIT 2 3
Lana Banana Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, byzantium said: Well you seem to not be grasping that we are talking about events in the US. Not “other countries”. How does the concept of striking not translate across the globe? Is it done differently in The US? Edited October 5, 2023 by Lana Banana
Lana Banana Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Blade Runner said: Literally them with billionaries and rich people: A person on ATRL worshipping other millionaire popstars trying to shade others on here Edited October 5, 2023 by Lana Banana 1
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