EmailMySwift Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Why is an Xtina stan posing as a Swift fan talking about anyone’s shortcomings? Gaga is the most well-rounded talent in pop bffr. screaming at both claims Xtina is an even worse case of Gaga's lack of a cohesive vision or understanding of pop music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotunda Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 5 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: What does putting her heart into it mean? Promotion? Or will you only admit she put her heart into something if it outperforms her last two albums? If Gaga put her full heart into Joanne and Chromatica, that’s a damning indictment of her artistry. She can and should do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 She could, but if Chromatica could barely outdo Joanne right after ASIB, it’ll be an uphill battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, EmailMySwift said: screaming at both claims Xtina is an even worse case of Gaga's lack of a cohesive vision or understanding of pop music Let me guess… you think Gaga should work with Max Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmailMySwift Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Let me guess… you think Gaga should work with Max Martin? She already did, the result was Stupid Love This goes back to my original point that she neither likes nor understands pop music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movimento Perpétuo Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 It's the report for me ot: Maybe. It all depends on her but she doesn't seem very interesting at her pop career as she used to tbh and that's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyboi Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 i just know she will have amazing collabs, everybody wants to collab with her since she's a legend she will probably have bad bunny, billie, ice, maybe even taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 46 minutes ago, EmailMySwift said: She already did, the result was Stupid Love This goes back to my original point that she neither likes nor understands pop music. You can dislike it, but Gaga is not going to be this perfectly polished brand like TS and Bey are. She’s never had the same approach to pop music as the average pop girl which is what makes her special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop_Data Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 56 minutes ago, Electric Youth said: It's the report for me And it was cleared. I would feel embarrassed if a mod cleared my thread report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Boy Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 hours ago, EmailMySwift said: Sorry but after 15 years, nothing in her career has shown she has the raw talent to create a Tapestry-level album. Beyonce uses extensive writing camps and has been under the wing/married to a powerful music mogul/the wealthiest musical artist in the world since her debut. Apples to oranges. ASIB proved that with a clear vision and focus she can deliver an excellent body of work outside of Pop Dance music. She just has to accept to be driven and let her ego aside. She has to gain her hunger back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmailMySwift Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 46 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: You can dislike it, but Gaga is not going to be this perfectly polished brand like TS and Bey are. She’s never had the same approach to pop music as the average pop girl which is what makes her special. That's great but the thread is asking if Gaga's next era will outsell Joanne, not if she's has a polished brand. I gave my reasons why it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scars Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Aristotle said: I think Joanne was more of an organic success for Gaga than Chromatica was. She has her dedicated gay stan base that wants generic dance pop songs and on other hand she has a more niche audience that want more acoustic material. None of those two groups are big enough to pull great numbers for her so she cannot include one and exclude the other. She needs to be expectational in both directions. Yeah, I may be overestimating her demand, but I really think she has the potential to be a darling to older crowds with the right material, as far as commercial success go. 3 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: There’s more to music than generic P!nk AC songs and generic dance tracks for gayzzz. This binary thinking is not helping anyone. Most of Chromatica felt like a generic dance record for gays indeed, but where did I say she should do "*generic* AC songs" instead? There's so much more to a more adult sound than...a Pink'd sound. This is thread is about commercial success, and in the year of 2023, I personally think Gaga is more likely to please an AC audience than the Top 40 format. Edited September 17, 2023 by Scars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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