Rhisiart Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Y'all gon be mad at me in the mornting when y'all see the novella I wrote.
Aciid Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 The way we had it easy in S2. No shade to Koko but yeah f. And in S3 everyone just went against Eve despite being the winner, a Tyra tea. So this season would have been the most interesting one to ask it.
Jkawaii Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Citrus said: Besides Tippi, is there any early out you really wanted to see more of? Prima-****ing-rina. I still maintain the thought that she shouldn't have gone home against that small town nobody, but Citrus "You Didn't Respond to Me Within Fifteen Minutes So I Sent Who I Wanted to Home Without Your Opinion" Fruit decided that Small Town should stay because she might do well in the Beach Ball... Only for her to be a solid SAFE then quit the following week. I give props to Primarina for staying present in the thread without being a burden of a presence like Mystique or a certain foreign mental patient. Thank you Faye. I love how I managed to be more memorable than the quitters and the other 2 early outs.
Whis Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 WTF can y'all PLEASE stop attacking me? @Citrus I expected better from you, but in fact you're one of the biggest BULLIES here.
True Skarlet Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Thank you @CHANEL™ and @Citrus. Especially Mrs Citrus because outside of judges' critiques (where you have to praise/critique us) it did feel like I was being Shanel'd by you compared to the other queens. Saying that, wtf @ this: Quote There was a MESSY version of the internet challenge where y'all would be like, furries or some ****. I don't recall. I ain't got a problem with furries but this sounds like some kind of gay Satanic tribute to the depths of DeivantArt Hell.
Rhisiart Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Going to work, I'll probably miss the live finale. I'll be back tonight to get my jush.
Citrus Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 5 hours ago, CHANEL™ said: I was the one who said that not him is this why everyone thinks I'm such an asshole because all of my good contributions to this conversation are accredited to someone else? Obviously her reading needs work because she came for me when I didn't even mention her.
Citrus Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Hug said: Is the finale today? Oh wow. Ask @CHANEL™
Citrus Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 @Hug pls give me the OP so I can change the title. Chanel has some ish to deal with and she said I can do results.
True Skarlet Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Finale right now? OMG @ the timing. I literally just got back home.
Citrus Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 __________________________________________________________________________ Episode 12 - Top 3 Lunch with Gladys Lux Maure (@Rhisiart) Well, hi, there Gladys! Come take a seat and let's chat. Chanel Your artistic skills were perhaps a highlight of your drag, if not one of the season itself. Did you always intend to include your drawing this season as a prominent skill? Do you think this definitive talent may force comparisons to other drawing icons throughout the game (Such as Nellie Boddum or Carbon)? Way back when I first sent in my application, I thought about if it was possible for me to draw my looks. (I hadn't yet looked at any previous seasons.) I didn't draw an entrance look because I had applied on a whim, and I thought that it'd be nice to be cast but I never really expected to. Once we officially started with Week 2, and I found out I had the option to do so, I went for it. Mainly because I had a lot of trouble trying to pull pieces together from the internet. I couldn't find whatever I was looking for and I felt limited by doing so. Being able to freely create whatever I wanted and put my thoughts to paper felt good because everything I did was 100% me. On the other hand, drawing my looks was very challenging and even a detriment at times. All of my looks went through a lot of trial and error, so it was a time-consuming process for each picture. And with my drawings, I had to leave a lot up to my write-ups, because some things just don't translate well into a drawing no matter how much I tried. Plus, I'm not a fashion connoisseur in the slightest, fashion has never been my forte. In the beginning, I had no clue what you guys were looking for or what direction I should go. I felt tethered to more realistic (and straight-up pedestrian and basic looks) because I hadn’t developed my sense of style or built a character, so I was thinking too logically and simplistic with my ideas. But I think if you look back at all of my drawings in order, you can see a clear progression of my looks. Over time, I really honed in on an aesthetic and how to make a look "drag". Also, I felt like I took a lot of my criticisms to heart a lot. Not only because I'm a hypersensitive person, but more than my fashion sense, I was getting critiqued on on something I made myself and put so much effort into. Not that it’s different for any other contestant, but I fear getting picked apart for my drawings. I was lucky that you and the other judges were always very helpful and respectful with your critiques. I only saw a couple of mentions of Carbon and Nellie in the thread in comparison to me for the first runway, and then I never heard any again. I was unfamiliar with them and their work, so I never felt pressure in that way. Now that the season is almost over and I have looked over their work, I feel like there isn't really any comparison. When you look at my runways, Carbon's, Nellie's, and even other queens like Colleen and Koko, we all have vastly different styles with different references and aesthetics. You were rather a sleeper hit in this season, not truly standing out until the latter half and being a pleasant surprise to include in our final three. Do you have any specific thoughts on this matter? Were you worried your fate in the game would be more grim? I never really put a shelf-life on my time in the game, so to speak. I certainly didn't think I make it all the way to the end though, nor that I'd be up for early consideration for All Stars. I wasn't quite sure when I was going to "meet my demise", but I hoped to at least reach the halfway point of the game. I wouldn't say that I didn't take the game seriously in the beginning because I definitely did, but I guess I never had lofty goals for myself. I was having a lot of fun with the challenges, but my main thought was "try to make it to the next week." I didn’t put too much thought into the long term, how far I could possibly go in the future. I had dedication and passion, but it wasn’t until the second half that I really gained a fire and drive. That begs the question on how I would’ve done if I had that level of energy since the beginning. I don’t feel like written entries would have changed overall (I’m very proud and content with all of them), but my first runways would have undoubtedly been better as a whole. I haven't had a creative outlet in a long time. Or rather, I haven't given myself an opportunity to be creative. Over the last few years, depression has truly eaten me alive and I lost most of my drive to do anything. I’ve been afraid to get back into creating and performing because I was never happy with anything I did manage to accomplish, and I was terrified of facing rejection once again. So having this experience to really discover if I still loved being a creator and pushing myself to do better, I am just so thankful. Citrus Many people had you written off as a filler queen, and you almost left in the lip sync against *****. Then, you began slaying. What changed after that lip sync? I touched on this in my lipsync, but I'll elaborate more here. Before the lipsync results were officially announced, I was already upset. I was pretty proud of my Sissy entry and had ended up gassing myself up because I honestly thought I did a great job. The critiques were on point and I just felt really disappointed in myself for failing that challenge. Plus, the week before was Snatch Game, and I finally had managed to make my first close friend in Stone. It should come as no surprise to everyone that I am a rather reserved and quiet person. Gladys isn’t really a character, she’s just me heightened for the internet. And I’m a user that hasn't been on the forums very long, doesn’t frequent that often, and was completely new to Drag Race. I didn’t know anyone, and Stone reaching out to me to talk and discuss entries made me feel like I had finally begun to integrate myself in this community, which is what I wanted. Pardon the disgusting pun, but Stone kinda became my rock. And she may disagree, but I don’t think I would’ve made it this far if I didn’t have her to lean on for those couple of weeks. And with us having to potentially lipsync against each other, it was just an awful place to be in. When the results of that lipsync actually came out, I honestly felt pissed. Because it's one thing to think something about yourself, but it's another to hear that exact thing you're thinking come from someone else's mouth. The double shantay was a bit of a bitter pill to swallow, especially because it seems the general consensus from both the judges and the viewers was that I won that lipsync fair and square. And I want to make it clear that I love ***** as a contestant and person. But my lipsync win felt undermined, it felt like you guys essentially said, "Yeah, you won that lipsync. But we think you'll be gone in a couple of weeks soon anyway and ***** will probably last longer than you will, so we'll just keep both of you." I really wanted to stay. I think I had forgotten that this wasn't just a game, it was a competition and people were in it to win it. I could've just kept drawing and writing along if I was eliminated, but I wanted to prove everybody wrong because, at that moment, I knew that I hadn't reached my full potential yet. I had already put so much work and time into this game, so I wanted to make my mark and actually produce results. I had added pressure after the lipsync because of the built-in condition that I’d be automatically eliminated if I placed low in the holiday challenge. I went into that challenge, and every challenge afterward, with the hopes of winning. It seems like a minuscule change going from “working to stay safe” to “working to win”, but it’s an important distinction and I feel one that is very apparent when looking at my run. I tried to turn it out and do as much as I could every week to ensure a win or a high placement at the very least. I put more time into creating well-thought-out concepts for looks and crafting them with a lot more detail than I did before. And I ended up having way more fun than I did before. It was exhilarating trying to challenge myself with my entries, and my runways in particular. I was honestly gunning for wins in the branding challenge and PokéBall because those were the challenges where I worked the hardest, and where my growth was really apparent. And I’m so happy to have won the makeover challenge, because having a partner in Moonchild that understood me more than I did myself and who was such a fierce supporter of me was exactly what I needed that moment in time. How would you respond to those who say you're the least likely of the Top 3, or who otherwise express the idea that you don't deserve to be here? I guess I've been lucky to see a general outpouring of support in the thread. Who knows what people are saying about me behind my back, but overall, especially after my Monica Beverly Hillz moment a few days ago (We're all in the same caliber!), almost everyone has been very supportive of me being here. And I’m so eternally grateful that I’ve left an impression on people. I don’t create or perform for any validation, but the validation from others is fulfilling and helps to push me further. But to anyone that does happen to a negative opinion on my position here, what am I really to say? The effort I put into this game and the level of dedication I have shown is completely undeniable, you can’t clock that. No one can say that I half-assed anything or that I wasn’t serious about my participation here. If anyone tries to straight-up drag my drawings without critique, I would challenge them to draw all of their entries from scratch every week to see if they could do better. Someone could pop up and give me all of the would’ves, could’ves, and should’ves in the world about how well they’d do and how far I should’ve been, but that won’t change the fact that I’m me and well….They’re them. When it comes to negative opinions about my place here in the finals and prospects on winning, I would only seriously give consideration to the judges and anyone who managed to make Top 3 before, because they are the ones with the most experience and insight, so they’re only ones really qualified to tell me anything. And I would welcome it if they did, because I’m always looking for opportunities to grow, and I need to grow a thicker skin anyway. But when it comes to people who haven’t competed or someone who placed middle of the pack at best in a season? I couldn’t give a ****, bottom line, cut and dry. I put in the work I needed to (and beyond), I didn’t give up (no matter how tired I was and how many times I considered it), and I worked every week to stay in the game. I rightfully earned my place here alongside the completely stunning and otherworldly Faye and Lola, and that’s that. What has been your favorite moment and takeaway from this game? I’m not sure I have one particular moment that’s my favorite moment. The second group challenge was a kii because that was Quitgate, and I lived for that whole mess. Plus, it was so much work on that entry with Lola. I liked the cast announcement in real-time, that was a lot of fun, and such a great surprise seeing that I had made it through. But I guess if I had to pick a favorite moment, it’d probably be my win. It’s a basic answer, but I was so proud of that entry and so hungry for a win, so that whole week was very rewarding. There’s a lot of takeaways from this game but the biggest one for sure is that I should work on my self-confidence. That has always been an issue I’ve struggled with, and one I think I’ll always deal with. At the time of making every entry, I was always tearing apart everything I was making, and was always afraid that it’d be my last week. I also undersold myself a lot. I was scared to be confident of entries I took pride in because I wanted to avoid disappointment if I failed, but it was a huge detriment to me in the long run. The biggest example I can think of is the second group challenge. From the write-up, I had made it sound that I wasn’t able to contribute much because of my job (that was the hardest thing to deal with in the competition honestly, trying to work under the time crunch I was under), when in actuality, I had written the majority of our commercial script by myself. For going the extra mile with photoshopping pictures and creating a whole cast of characters, Lola was very deserving of the win (together as a duo we accomplished a lot of that entry together), but ***** was considered the second place in our group when all she did was throw in a couple of one-liners and suggest our spokeswoman. Overall, when I look back on my time in the competition, I am immensely proud of everything I have accomplished. This was a giant learning experience and rediscovery period for me, and I’m grateful to have been granted the chance to do this. I still have a lot of work to do, but I now know that I still have some small modicum of talent for the arts still in me. Every time something moderately good happens to me, I say that I’ll keep that momentum and really start the process of auditioning and trying again with the arts. The final portion of my lipsync is not based on true events unlike my opening, but rather a dream of mine. I writing all of this down and sharing this with all of you in the hopes that I’ll be held to my words, and that I’ll try to take the steps once and for all on getting my life on track and pursuing a career in the arts, because this game has really reignited a fire that I thought had died long ago. Before I finally sign off, one last takeaway is that I need to be more sociable. That’s another huge problem I have, I am very quiet in real life and to myself. You probably wouldn’t believe it with my regular word count, but I use Gladys as a way to be myself and get everything out that I could never say out loud. (And I’ve been relatively quiet about my opinions on this game I think, so I guess I’m using this last opportunity to try and get everything in my head of out of the way.) I have gotten to know so many people because of this game, and whether you are a judge or a contestant, someone I talk to often or someone I don’t talk to all that much, I want you to know that I do cherish the friendship that we do have, and it means so much to me. I hope all of you know that I am always here for whatever you need. Now, Gladys, do you have any questions for me? Of course you ****ing do. What was it that you saw in me that made you decide to cast me in the first place? You were cute and sweet, gave me a Joslyn Fox vibe and I loved that you leaned so much into creative writing ala Carbon. What expectations did you have for me over the season, and did I manage to meet or exceed them? And if I exceeded them, what was the moment that you finally took notice of me? I try not to have expectations for girls, so you certainly exceeded them. I always thought you were fine until your lip sync against *****, which I thought you most definitely won. Hence the double shantay, because Chanel and I couldn't agree on who to send home. Then you really picked up the pace and began slaying, especially in the branding challenge. What was it about ***** that made you decide to do a double shantay instead of granting me my win? How was that decision made? Just touched on this a bit, but I wanted to cut ***** and Chanel wanted to cut you. Neither of us would budge, and we had extra space because of Quitti so we compromised on a double shantay. Do you regret using a double shantay that week, and is there any week in particular that you would’ve saved it for instead? Was it the best lip sync of the season, no, but I also wouldn't have wanted it for another one. If that double shantay got us your killer second half and top 3 placement, then so be it. I adore Melanoma, Alena, *****, and Primarina, but the comeback was ill-received by a lot of the cast. (I personally, was reaching exhaustion, and having what was essentially nearly 5 weeks in a row with the same pool of 9 contestants competing was very tiring.) What was behind the decision of having a comeback in the first place? There's been a comeback before, in Season 2, but neither time has it worked out. I wanted the girls to have a second chance, especially the early outs. Unfortunately, aside from Melanoma, the entries for that were pretty lackluster. Did you have a favorite challenge, or week overall, this season? Is there any challenge other than Snatch Game that you would bring back in the future in some form? Sissy that Lip Sync is always a main challenge. As for the rest, I think we'll let them retire. I like having new stuff each season to keep people on their toes. My favorite week this season was either the Makeovers or Buy Buy Birdie, because I loved seeing y'alls characters so refined and marketable. In comparison to the past 3 seasons, what are your honest opinions of this Top 3 overall? Hands down the best Top 3, 4, 5, etc. Not a contest. If any of you had competed in prior seasons, I've no doubt you'd each be Top 3 again. What are you two planning to do while you guys are on break before All Stars? Chanel and I are going to move forward with our business plan for personalized enema kits. Do you think you'll ever compete in a future season? How do you think you would place in this season in particular? Although I almost competed in Season 03, I don't think I will. Not because of time (it's easier to play than host, sorry!), but I just don't feel the need/want to. I create challenges that I would love to do, and it's kinda ****ty if I'm writing the challenges for a season I would play on. And no shade but I don't trust any of these other girls to come up with good ones without me . But yeah, I'm arrogant and awful etc etc but I think I would win most seasons of this game if I was competing. Fashion would be my weaker point for sure, but anyone who knows me or has been around since I started in Games knows how competitive I am. What are each of your honest feelings about co-hosting? Would you do it again (hosting in general, solo, or co-hosting)? Is there anyone else that is fit for the job? I think co-hosting somewhat worked, especially in terms of ratings. It was very nice until Chanel got banned because we could do results consistently even if one of our schedules didn't always line up. Of course I'd host again, I lub dis game. And I think Tangerine would be a good host for when we move to BET. Was it hard coming up with a new variation of my name every week? When did you think of Nina Bo'Nina-ing my name up? It wasn't hard, no. I did it because I always thought your name was so extra and unnecessary and I thought it was funny. Like, Lux Maure? Bitch, that's so old white lady aristocrat. So I just started doing other stuff I thought was ridiculous.
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True Skarlet Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Quote In comparison to the past 3 seasons, what are your honest opinions of this Top 3 overall? Hands down the best Top 3, 4, 5, etc. Not a contest. If any of you had competed in prior seasons, I've no doubt you'd each be Top 3 again. Um... you forget about Udders and Nina?
Citrus Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, True Skarlet said: Um... you forget about Udders and Nina? As your S4 selves.
True Skarlet Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Just now, Citrus said: As your S4 selves. Inb4 Udders and Nina place higher than Noah and Faye in the ADR Queen's Rate.
Hug Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 36 minutes ago, Citrus said: @Hug pls give me the OP so I can change the title. Chanel has some ish to deal with and she said I can do results. Sorry I just now saw this.
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