base talk Where's the dislike for Taylor swift coming from?

[istan4badgalriri]

5 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said:

 

 

 

And she still remains a mid performer and vocalist, just like Taylor. She also doesn't excel at any other field which makes her place secured as the second most talentless MPG right after Britney, congrats

In comparison to Swift, she definitely excels in that department.

 

[JennyWayne]

Its just that according to non-fans Taylor is mostly mediocre. They are just indifferent about her music and don't understand her popularity. The main hatred comes for her Swifties cult.

 

The problem here is that (a portion of) her stanbase here can't fathom this and believe that every form of slight critique about her (like her private jet usage) is some sort of blind hatred and that everyone that does this is an OTH that only hates out of jealousy because Taylor is more succesful than their own fave(s) 

 

On top of that, the constant downplaying and diminishing accomplishments of other (female) artists to defend Taylor. Constantly stating that Taylor's music is "superior" or "better" simply because it sells more or gets more streams, or downplaying other MPG's catalogues as fast food music (when in reality she's just a pop singer like any other MPG)

 

I truly believe that some Swifties suffer from moral superiority complex except it's not about morals, but about the music they like and how their taste in music is superior to everyone elses taste.

 

[ImpressMeMuch]

People wanting her to be something she's not, or (rightfully) people who have issue with the contradiction of her words and action

 

As for her craft -i.e. the music, that hate I don't understand

[Into The Void]

On 9/1/2023 at 10:37 PM, Artistofthedecade said:

Rihanna gets more flack for her performances because she is a lazy and uninspired performer who makes people wanna leave her shows to the point of her being left with half empty venues at some point 

 

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There ain't no way this is true

[1989]

On ATRL? Because so many here can’t quit constantly seething and fuming that she’s surpassed all their lil faves (and by quite a bit) and is now occupying a level of success all by herself. 

[byzantium]

Why are the few remaining Navy so peeved at Taylor?  

[istan4badgalriri]

1 hour ago, 1989 said:

On ATRL? Because so many here can’t quit constantly seething and fuming that she’s surpassed all their lil faves (and by quite a bit) and is now occupying a level of success all by herself. 

You guys genuinely sound crazy omg

[Mystic Boy]

On 9/1/2023 at 6:00 PM, Perfect Blue said:

1. Lack of Star Power: the fact that a woman who cannot sing, cannot dance, has zero stage presence, and picks her wedgie on stage is breaking all-time touring records is indicative of the state of pop culture: utter shambles
2. Undeserved Accolades: it's incredibly bizarre and suspicious how acclaimed Taylor Swift is for her songwriting when she consistently writes corny, insipid, immature songs.
3. Horrible Personality: The self-described covert narcissist has an extensive history of victimizing herself in the media and has been exposed for orchestrating false scenarios to achieve this, often to the detriment of people of color. Despite the perpetual victim complex, Taylor Swift is extremely malevolent and vindictive. The curmudgeon has been known to dogwhistle her fans into harassing her exes, pop rivals, and even young novices such as teenager Olivia Rodrigo.

[Mystic Boy]

On 9/1/2023 at 7:24 PM, WeFoundTrouble said:

If you personally don’t like those things about her music that’s perfectly fine. But to claim her success doesn’t match the quality quite literally indicates you think that your opinions on her music should outweigh everyone else’s. No one persons musical preferences matter over another’s. I wish y’all would stop acting so high and mighty just because Taylor can’t sing with melisma or vibrato  
 

Get the memo: we do not care. If we want to hear a vocalist sing, we know where to find them. Taylor is widely enjoyed because of her talent for combining emotion with memory. Two incredibly powerful components of the human mind. 

I have to laugh

[Mystic Boy]

On 9/2/2023 at 4:30 AM, Artistofthedecade said:

This is our songwriting fave 

 

When you realize that how dumb it is to judge an artist's songwriting with 4 songs out of +200, you will understand why she gets called one of the best songwriters of our generation by GP, critics and industry altogether 

The fact that you think these insipid songs are some kind of Patti Smith or Joni Mitchell level songwriting is the reason why we can't take you seriously

[WildHeart]

6 minutes ago, Mystic Boy said:

The fact that you think these insipid songs are some kind of Patti Smith or Joni Mitchell level songwriting is the reason why we can't take you seriously

Cute of you to think i will take an opinion of a Beyonce fan about songwriting seriously. Go listen your yada yada yada bom bom kakas and leave excellent songwriters alone, thank you 

Edited September 3, 2023 by Artistofthedecade

[Mystic Boy]

16 hours ago, EmailMySwift said:

Taylor borrows from Britney?

 

Britney is an LGBT-focused artist?

 

What planet is this happening on cuz it sure aint Earth! 

 

What has Britney ever said other than "gays are somewhat girls" and the occasional "happy pride!" once that became an obligatory thing for celebs to say? In fact, when has she ever spoken on any cause, issue, or marginazlied group? 

 

 

[Mystic Boy]

16 hours ago, Raspberries said:

She encouraged people to sign a petition for Congress to pass the Equality act, has spoken about Pride month and condemned the violence again LGBT people, has donated to LGBT charities, has lifted LGBT voices in the entertainment industry, etc. What more do you want her to do? Ride a pride float on a giant bottle poppers? 

MMhhh when it was way more safer for her to do?  When she made sure it was less harmful for her career? pleaaaase

[Mystic Boy]

1 hour ago, Artistofthedecade said:

Cute of you to think i will take an opinion of a Beyonce fan about songwriting seriously. Go listen your yada yada yada bom bom kakas and leave excellent songwriters alone, thank you 

Cute off topic and deflect but we never proclaimed Beyoncé as a Virtuoso songwriter on the contrary of you and your delusional sidekicks

 

If these are the examples you want to showcase her writing skills aka 12 yo girl puberty crisis songs, then OK

 

Edited September 3, 2023 by Mystic Boy

[KatyPrismSpirit]

Taylor is not disliked. Swifties simply tend to perceive any form of slight critique or remarks about Taylor's actions in certain situations as hatred.

 

If we point out that Taylor has a history of self-centered feminism, then that is just a form of criticism, not hatred. If we point out that Taylor has a history of reckless polluting without raising environmental awareness, then that is also just a critique. Taylor is a human, just like us. She isn't above fair criticism, and she deserves to be held accountable, just like every other artist. Just because she is currently the biggest artist worldwide doesn't mean that everything she does deserves to be spoken of in a positive light. 

[Frappucino]

Where do I begin…

[WildHeart]

11 minutes ago, Mystic Boy said:

Cute off topic and deflect but we never proclaimed Beyoncé as a Virtuoso songwriter on the contrary of you and your delusional sidekicks

 

If these are the examples you want to showcase her writing skills aka 12 yo girl pubery crisis songs, then OK

 

Critics, industry and GP all agree that those songs are excellently written songs but if ATRL user Mystic Boy with his fumes say otherwise... 

[Raspberries]

1 hour ago, Mystic Boy said:

MMhhh when it was way more safer for her to do?  When she made sure it was less harmful for her career? pleaaaase

And what has "gay artist" Britney Spears done other than defend George W Bush and call gays somewhat girls 

[bijonse]

She sucks and seems like an undercover racist on top of that. A lot of her fans DEFINITELY are  I think she would get a lot less hate if she stayed in her lane and didn’t try to serve pop star on stage and just sang with her guitar and let the dancers do all the work 

Edited September 3, 2023 by bijonse

[EmailMySwift]

9 hours ago, istan4badgalriri said:

You guys genuinely sound crazy omg

He literally just posted facts. Nothing about what he said sounds crazy. This site is mostly about users bragging about their fave's success and Taylor has to most success by far so people dislike her for that reason. It's not like the Navy talks about anything other than Spotify and her billions either. 

[EmailMySwift]

22 minutes ago, bijonse said:

She sucks and seems like an undercover racist on top of that. A lot of her fans DEFINITELY are  I think she would get a lot less hate if she stayed in her lane and didn’t try to serve pop star on stage and just sang with her guitar and let the dancers do all the work 

She will not stay in her lane to appease you  she will continue to serve popstar and it's working since she's the biggest female popstar of all time. And that's why ya'll are mad. 

[Comedor]

She doesn’t have one iconic performance in what 15 years of career? That’s one reason to dislike her.

 

By the way no one is forced to like her. I don’t like her because her music serves teenager diary pages.

 

If you enjoy that or disagree good for you. That’s the world we live in we are different and that’s ok.

[Bubble Tea]

21 hours ago, JennyWayne said:

Its just that according to non-fans Taylor is mostly mediocre. They are just indifferent about her music and don't understand her popularity. The main hatred comes for her Swifties cult.

 

The problem here is that (a portion of) her stanbase here can't fathom this and believe that every form of slight critique about her (like her private jet usage) is some sort of blind hatred and that everyone that does this is an OTH that only hates out of jealousy because Taylor is more succesful than their own fave(s) 

 

On top of that, the constant downplaying and diminishing accomplishments of other (female) artists to defend Taylor. Constantly stating that Taylor's music is "superior" or "better" simply because it sells more or gets more streams, or downplaying other MPG's catalogues as fast food music (when in reality she's just a pop singer like any other MPG)

 

I truly believe that some Swifties suffer from moral superiority complex except it's not about morals, but about the music they like and how their taste in music is superior to everyone elses taste.

 

Swifties seem to have this parasocial relationship with Taylor, believing that her success has something to do with them - as if it changed anything materially for themselves whatsoever. Strutting around like peacocks as if they achieved anything.  We're not new to success stans.

 

Taylor sings some cute lil dittys and appeals to the masses.

 

[Mystic Boy]

10 hours ago, Raspberries said:

And what has "gay artist" Britney Spears done other than defend George W Bush and call gays somewhat girls 

Nothing,she's even worse

Dont know why you're speaking about her

[mypaintoyou]

It’s the jealousy 

they can’t stand a woman be this successful