base talk Where's the dislike for Taylor swift coming from?

[Raspberries]

12 minutes ago, znake said:

i hate she used and sabotage female singers like Katy Perry and Olivia Rodrigo and then she came back begging for pardon to Katy and invite her to join her video only to promote her music , again she is using them,  sometimes she is so pathetic,  and im going to eras tour this november, but i cant stand this kind of behavior , so hypocrite, thats why she always ends alone and her relationships didnt last,  even she doesnt have real friends, everyone abond her at one point.

 

The revisionist history  Katy came crawling back during the Rep tour 

[Taylena]

26 minutes ago, znake said:

i hate she used and sabotage female singers like Katy Perry and Olivia Rodrigo and then she came back begging for pardon to Katy and invite her to join her video only to promote her music , again she is using them,  sometimes she is so pathetic,  and im going to eras tour this november, but i cant stand this kind of behavior , so hypocrite, thats why she always ends alone and her relationships didnt last,  even she doesnt have real friends, everyone abond her at one point.

 

Not you saying the exact opposite of everything that happened. Katy was the one trying to sabotage Taylor by stealing her dancers just before a tour. Taylor never mentioned that irrelevant woman once during their "feud".  Katy then wrote a letter to Taylor admitting it's all her fault and begging for forgiveness. Taylor was too kind inviting Katy to appear in her MV to help revamp Katy's dwindling career. "No real friends" but one of the long lasting friendships in pop music is her friendship with Selena Gomez. 

[Monkey_Juice]

Nobody hates Taylor

 

She's just really boring and mediocre 

 

But her fans and the industry want us to treat her like she's innovative  lol

Respect is earned not given

[Antikythera]

I think she is too successful, and it feels like the world is revolving around her, which sometimes can feel like an eternal loop when you like pop culture. This happens with all artists peaks, for a long time it was Adele, everything Adele, Adele farted, and it was album of the eyes, Adele burped, and Aliens would come to earth to abducted her for a planetary universal tour. 

 

For me this is the usual. I don't hate Taylor, but I never listen to her albums, I don't even know most of her singles. For me on the outside is like she is releasing a new album every week and it is a huge hit. I hear people talking about a song "Karma", but I never heard it, but I know "cat is a karma"... like I also heard people talking about "out of the woods" or something, I have no ideia what the song is. Folklore for me still Nelly Furtado's sophomore (flop) album about being a Portuguese immigrant in North America. 

 

It is funny how I know so much stuff about Taylor, but I don't consume her work. This just show us how she burst the bubble, but it gets somewhat tired as it gets with every popstar on its peak. Like, it feels a bit "yes she is the biggest, the best, the economy lives because of her, Jesus is coming back because she is his God, famine will end because her new record etc". Ok, we get it, she is huge lol.

 

I also know it won't last forever.

[WildHeart]

12 hours ago, Perfect Blue said:

Taylor Swift cannot even produce vibrato in studio settings. That is how pathetic and feeble her shrill vocals are.

 

Rihanna can do that, so she automatically wins these talent discussions.

 

12 hours ago, lonnie said:

As opposed to Taylor?

Because Taylor is renown for her grand energy and dazzling captivating performances and vocals?

 

 

7 hours ago, istan4badgalriri said:

Rihanna sounded and danced better than Taylor ever has at this year's Super Bowl even though she hadn't performed in 5 years and was 4 months pregnant. When they said she gets more flack for her performances they meant on ATRL.

 

 

5 hours ago, fentypark said:

and STILL sings better than taylor on any given day and her music is better… what’s not clicking? 

And she still remains a mid performer and vocalist, just like Taylor. She also doesn't excel at any other field which makes her place secured as the second most talentless MPG right after Britney, congrats

[whiteferrari]

1 hour ago, Weld_E said:

I will after your fave learns the meaning of the word, because if this deserves 50% from

Olivia:

 

 

Then this deserves 90% from Taylor

to Lana:

 

 

This is crazy, the audacity to reach for that 50%  Lana should sue her back

[lonnie]

20 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

 

 

 

And she still remains a mid performer and vocalist, just like Taylor. She also doesn't excel at any other field which makes her place secured as the second most talentless MPG right after Britney, congrats

Sounds like you're doing what your fanbase frequently calls coping. Taylor Swift remains a horrible performer, with a limited vocal range that has no colour nor any redeeming qualities to it, the charisma of a toad, and there are logs that show less rigidity when they move than she does. Her entire claim to fame is the ability she had to make herself relatable to those who feel they have little going for them in life and struggled to gain and craved attention while lying to themselves that they didn't want it, just like Taylor. Her father's money and the privilege she luckily had certainly helping on the way. She's a sniveling, (and unfortunately) rather pathetic, self-pitying adult in her 30s still unable to deal with difficult emotions and clings to the past, reliving her snuffed out romantic escapades and churning them into mostly bland songs that her fanbase, attracted to mediocrity and plainness as moths are to flame, gladly lap at. No amount of rankings and tiers swifties create to convince themselves that their fave is anything special will ever change this, nor will the massive streams and touring gross numbers that she has.

 

 

[AvadaKedavra]

I seen so many Taylor fans disrespecting Britney-Gaga-Beyonce-Madonna legacy and achievements specially on this forum. I think is probably that.

Personally i would be here for Taylor havin another career slowdown. I dont like her huge fame. So many bandwagoners and fake fans specially from the new gens. 
The threath to her security also gets bigger and bigger. I dont get how she will keep havin a healthy life if things go like this and her fame gets larger. 
I miss her in the Lover era when she was more accesible and things were more peaceful. Today everything is a circus. Is annoying. 
I had the same feelings about Gaga in the Fame Monster era and Beyonce in the Self Titled One. It gets too much

 

Edited September 2, 2023 by AvadaKedavra

[WildHeart]

3 minutes ago, lonnie said:

Sounds like you're doing what your fanbase frequently calls coping. Taylor Swift remains a horrible performer, with a limited vocal range that has no colour nor any redeeming qualities to it, the charisma of a toad, and there are logs that show less rigidity when they move than she does. Her entire claim to fame is the ability she had to make herself relatable to those who feel they have little going for them in life and struggled to gain and craved attention while lying to themselves that they didn't want it, just like Taylor. Her father's money and the privilege she luckily had certainly helping on the way. She's a sniveling, (and unfortunately) rather pathetic, self-pitying adult in her 30s still unable to deal with difficult emotions and clings to the past, reliving her snuffed out romantic escapades and churning them into mostly bland songs that her fanbase, attracted to mediocrity and plainness as moths are to flame, gladly lap at. No amount of rankings and tiers swifties create to convince themselves that their fave is anything special will ever change this, nor will the massive streams and touring gross numbers that she has.

 

 

I don't think this essay will make Rihanna any more talented than she actually is

[Rotunda]

As someone who didn’t really see it for Taylor until Folklore, I’d say hate for Taylor has actually subsided a lot. Hate for the Swifties is definitely up though.

[lonnie]

7 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

I don't think this essay will make Rihanna any more talented than she actually is

There's no way someone whose fave's performances resemble the live equivalent of a rigor mortis will tell me anything about talent unfortunately

 

 

Edited September 2, 2023 by lonnie

[prézli]

White mediocrity with little singing talent and less unique style.

[LiamVillain]

OTHs I guess

[prézli]

18 hours ago, bad guy said:

I think people just don’t understand why she of all people is so huge. How someone so simple like her is challenging the records of Whitney Houston, The Beatles, Michael Jackson, etc. This is of course due to streaming over-inflating success but regardless it’s just baffling. She’s an okay singer, who is okay at guitar, and writes very simple catchy melodies. Her songs are not experimental, intricately produced, nor very nuanced. It’s just…simple. This is all fine but the level of success for such simpleness is where confusion comes in. To top it off, publications giving her praise for such simple music and hyping it up like she’s creating something truly remarkable for no particular reason other than to avoid fan backlash, is also off-putting. All this constant hype and treating her like she’s something she’s not, turns me off to listening to her personally but I’m not really needed as she has 100M other people that will listen to her. Her success up to 1989 makes sense to me. This new wave after something as mediocre as Midnights does not. 

 

As a person, she seems shifty and manipulative but that’s how you succeed in business (and yes she is a business and markets her life as such). So I can’t fault her for that. That said I can easily separate art from artists. But her art apart from a few projects are not enough to justify this explosion 

She's the female Ed Sheeran.  

[WildHeart]

9 minutes ago, lonnie said:

There's no way someone whose fave's performances resemble the live equivalent of a rigor mortis will tell me anything about talent unfortunately

 

 

Unlike Navy, no one claims that Taylor's talent is thanks to her vocals or performance skills thankfully 

Edited September 2, 2023 by Artistofthedecade

[lonnie]

3 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

Unlike Navy, no one claims that Taylor's talent is thanks to her vocals or performance skills thankfully 

Haven't you been pissed for the past pages because you can't deal with the obvious fact that Rihanna is a better singer and dancer, and overall performer, than Taylor? Spent post upon post coming for her performances as though you don't stan for someone beneath her in that regard?

 

[WildHeart]

1 minute ago, lonnie said:

Haven't you been pissed for the past pages because you can't deal with the obvious fact that Rihanna is a better singer and dancer, and overall performer, than Taylor? Spent post upon post coming for her performances as though you don't stan for someone beneath her in that regard?

 

I am pissed at Navy's nerve when it comes to talking about talent despite stanning an artist without an evident talent at anything 

[lonnie]

1 minute ago, Artistofthedecade said:

I am pissed at Navy

There, there. It'll end at some point. Kind of sad that despite all that's going for your fave you're all so angry. Evidence that numbers and living vicariously through a mega-successful individual doesn't necessarily bring joy nor happiness

 

[WildHeart]

14 minutes ago, lonnie said:

There, there. It'll end at some point. Kind of sad that despite all that's going for your fave you're all so angry. Evidence that numbers and living vicariously through a mega-successful individual doesn't necessarily bring joy nor happiness

 

I am not sure if i am the angry one in a 14 page thread that is serving a group therapy for all the hurt souls screaming the reason of their hate against miss Taylor

[lonnie]

3 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

I am not sure if i am the angry one in a 14 page thread that is serving a group therapy for all the hurt souls screaming the reason of their hate against miss Taylor

As though you've just not admitted it yourself a post ago?

 

 

[hungrymuffin]

all the unhinged swifties and oths should just be banned

 

how tired we are of people arguing over the same thing again and again

[TipToe]

Let's imagine for a second you have two friends, one is truly remarkable and another is just okay at doing something , then the okay one is getting 10x more results. Wouldnt that push some buttons on you? I mean, its not always jealously, you can be perfectly content at seeing that other friend success and still be critical of it. Its okay, swifties.

[EmailMySwift]

3 hours ago, lonnie said:

There, there. It'll end at some point. Kind of sad that despite all that's going for your fave you're all so angry. Evidence that numbers and living vicariously through a mega-successful individual doesn't necessarily bring joy nor happiness

 

He's posting in a thread about his fave. You have 19 posts here, 1 away from having the most, about someone you dislike. Seems like the only angry one is you. But I don't blame you, I would be too. 

[hallucinate]

annoying fans definitely play a huge part in it

[Headlock]

This thread  For the love of god Rih please release something so the Navy has something else to do