celeb news Music critic: "Taylor massively overhyped. Critics afraid of backlash from Swifities"

[jijie101]

On 8/15/2023 at 12:30 AM, Enrique523 said:

She's barely 33, what do you mean "pushing 40"?? 

 

Also, it's pathetic how you're taking some isolated lyrics instead of taking the WHOLE context of the song, especially Anti-Hero. Anti-Hero is objectively a well written pop song, you taking it out of context won't change that.

 

Also, as much as i love Madonna, Folkmore is way more artistic than COADF and that's just a fact. COADF has lyrics like "other places make me feel like a dork" or "just go to Texas, isn't that where they golf?" 

That meme chorus of Anti Hero is the most memorable part of the song to most of the GP, let's be serious

[~Start The Music]

On 8/14/2023 at 10:17 AM, jijie101 said:

I like Taylor but she made some points. She's pushing 40 and still serves lyrics like "It's me, hi,I'm the problem" and "Karma is a cat purring in my lap" like Madonna in her 40s was giving Ray Of Light and COADF.

Comparing artists like a slow poke  btw ROL is overrated garbage

[jijie101]

18 minutes ago, ~Start The Music said:

Comparing artists like a slow poke  btw ROL is overrated garbage

ROL is better than anything Taylor has put out, don't be delusional.

[Bubble Tea]

21 minutes ago, ~Start The Music said:

ROL is overrated garbage

The unhinged lengths Swifties are going to these days.  

[Dula Peep]

On 8/13/2023 at 1:25 PM, ptolemaea said:

Much of Taylor's appeal is that she is awkward and mediocre. The media spent years worshiping and promoting the incredibly talented, untouchable and unrelatable goddess Beyonce until everyone became collectively fatigued.

 

Taylor Swift with her stiff dancing, shrill vocals, and cheugy lyrics offers a comforting alternative to your typical frumpy millennial white woman with tons of expendable cash, who can relate to and identify with Swift's mediocrity. "If someone as dull and basic as Taylor Swift can make it, maybe I can too."

Lmao exactly this 

[Sylpher]

Shes overrated AF on here too. And we're usually the audience that sees through the media play, people! C'mon now...

[Sylpher]

None of this surprises me. Can ya'll stop with the poptism BS too? Half the albums that are acclaimed don't deserve nor are they receiving acclaim because of new found appreciation for pop. It's because critics are intimidated by stans.

[Mornings]

I really don’t think her success is about the music. It’s consistently good enough, but rarely exceptional. She’s tapped into that perpetual victimhood against someone. Against her ex boyfriends, Kanye, the media, scooter, which people love to see themselves in. She also does those Easter egg things which keeps the Facebook conspiracy nerds alive and salivating. And also now she’s got the nostalgic factor from releasing for a decade that allows grown people to regress to highschool when her music first came out and relive their fantasies over and over. 
 Adults trading friendship beaded bracelets? Come on that’s some childhood regresssion healing cult stuff

 

Edited August 17, 2023 by Mornings

[K$Ellie]

hilarious to see taylor haters rallying and taking all their frustrations out in this thread over some randomer calling her overrated skdjdks 

[sillycilla]

6 hours ago, Mornings said:

I really don’t think her success is about the music. It’s consistently good enough, but rarely exceptional. She’s tapped into that perpetual victimhood against someone. Against her ex boyfriends, Kanye, the media, scooter, which people love to see themselves in. She also does those Easter egg things which keeps the Facebook conspiracy nerds alive and salivating. And also now she’s got the nostalgic factor from releasing for a decade that allows grown people to regress to highschool when her music first came out and relive their fantasies over and over. 
 Adults trading friendship beaded bracelets? Come on that’s some childhood regresssion healing cult stuff

 

Tea spilled. 

[sillycilla]

Folks won’t admit it because they are living their nostalgia through her. But she isn’t innovative like Madonna, groundbreaking like MJ, and exceptional like Beyoncé. She’s basic of the basic with cute relatable pop songs and honestly people love that and resonate with it.  Slap that on a white, blonde, blue eyed, all American girl and the audience eats it up all the time. It’s also the Morgan Wallen/Maga affect.

[All Too Well]

"Critics afraid of backlash from Swifities"

 

Good. 

[All Too Well]

Not the antis jumping on this thread  yall must be SO thirsty to spew out your dislike for her huh. Not much places for that these days. Enjoy your 5 minutes, huns 

[Popboi.]

2 hours ago, sillycilla said:

Slap that on a white, blonde, blue eyed, all American girl and the audience eats it up all the time.

Mention another one that made it in the industry the way Taylor has, we'll wait.

Edited August 18, 2023 by Popboi.

[KillingYourCareer]

No **** Sherlock! No one attacks artists with big fan bases in their signed articles. Taylor at least has artistic value to what she does, look at those laughable BTS panegyrics being written on the other hand...

[KillingYourCareer]

21 hours ago, sillycilla said:

Folks won’t admit it because they are living their nostalgia through her. But she isn’t innovative like Madonna, groundbreaking like MJ, and exceptional like Beyoncé. She’s basic of the basic with cute relatable pop songs and honestly people love that and resonate with it.  Slap that on a white, blonde, blue eyed, all American girl and the audience eats it up all the time. It’s also the Morgan Wallen/Maga affect.

Nothing is groundbreaking anymore. People don't want that. People are more insecure than ever in the era of social media and don't want a superstar who's above them, they want someone who could be their best friend or next door neighbor. Exceptional talent isn't rewarded anymore outside of talent shows, I swear most of today's singers with big hits have voices meant for sign language.

[LOTF]

On 8/17/2023 at 11:28 AM, Mornings said:

I really don’t think her success is about the music. It’s consistently good enough, but rarely exceptional. She’s tapped into that perpetual victimhood against someone. Against her ex boyfriends, Kanye, the media, scooter, which people love to see themselves in. She also does those Easter egg things which keeps the Facebook conspiracy nerds alive and salivating. And also now she’s got the nostalgic factor from releasing for a decade that allows grown people to regress to highschool when her music first came out and relive their fantasies over and over. 
 Adults trading friendship beaded bracelets? Come on that’s some childhood regresssion healing cult stuff

 

This is it. This is *THE* post summarizing it best. It's true 

[peacok]

Taylor became so huge because she is literally the only pop girl out there who is giving the fans what they want: Music-related stuff. The (bi)yearly releases, re-recordings, previously unreleased tracks, the vinyls, the exclusive editions, high budgeted music videos, the easter eggs, etc you name it... she keeps the fans busy and invested  specially since we live in a world where it feels like most pop girls have gone MIA from the pop music scene 

 

[More Than A Melody]

On 8/13/2023 at 12:22 PM, Frogger17 said:

Typical "I don't like it, so therefore everyone who does is pretending to and won't admit it" response from OTHs. Great articles, beautiful paragraphs. Next. 

I mean, this is ATRL's attitude to music as well.

 

I think the idea that something is "overhyped" is simply entitlement and self-centeredness. I don't particularly like Taylor's music but considering most people in the world do, I'll admit I'm in the minority and move on. I don't need to find conspiratorial explanations as to why my taste is different than the majority's. Who made my taste the standard?

 

I wish more people realized that there's no right and wrong when it comes to art. Good or bad. Taste is subjective.

 

That said, Daily Mail gets off on being contrarian, particularly when it comes to things enjoyed majority by women, so this comes as no surprise

[Rayaine]

On 8/13/2023 at 6:25 PM, Shinseito said:

They aren’t wrong. Midnights was a terrible album riding off of hype. She’s overexposed atm

And about to do 1M with 1989TV….make it make sense

 

 

OT: 

Someday, I'll be living in a big old city
And all you're ever gonna be is mean
Someday, I'll be big enough so you can't hit me
And all you're ever gonna be is mean

 

[Frogger17]

8 hours ago, KillingYourCareer said:

Nothing is groundbreaking anymore. People don't want that. People are more insecure than ever in the era of social media and don't want a superstar who's above them, they want someone who could be their best friend or next door neighbor. Exceptional talent isn't rewarded anymore outside of talent shows, I swear most of today's singers with big hits have voices meant for sign language.

Yes, because Janet, Paula Abdul, Madonna, the Go-Gos, the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Britney, and the other artists of yesteryear were all successful because of their voices.

 

Big voice or no, when you know how to write a hit, people come running, voice or not. As big as Jennifer Hudson’s voice is (Leona Lewis, or any American Idol winner in the past fifteen years), no one wants to hear a big voice sing a terrible song. Ya’ll can make whatever excuse you want, but people like her music, therefore we buy it. The fact that OTHs have to come up with excuses for why we like the music when it’s obvious why just proves how desperate ya’ll are.

[KillingYourCareer]

11 minutes ago, Frogger17 said:

Yes, because Janet, Paula Abdul, Madonna, the Go-Gos, the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Britney, and the other artists of yesteryear were all successful because of their voices.

 

Big voice or no, when you know how to write a hit, people come running, voice or not. As big as Jennifer Hudson’s voice is (Leona Lewis, or any American Idol winner in the past fifteen years), no one wants to hear a big voice sing a terrible song. Ya’ll can make whatever excuse you want, but people like her music, therefore we buy it. The fact that OTHs have to come up with excuses for why we like the music when it’s obvious why just proves how desperate ya’ll are.

I'm not talking about Taylor specifically! It's just a current trend in pop culture to look for average people in stars. Even actors look very average these days. Even Ariana Grande resorted to mumbling despite her vocal resources in order to appeal to this mediocrity-seeking generation. And it's not just about voice but also innovation, which Janet, Madonna and even Britney brought. These are the years of recycling/sampling/covering old stuff, as if the entertainment industry accepted they can't come up with anything new that's groundbreaking.

Edited August 19, 2023 by KillingYourCareer

[Obsession]

If you don't understand why Taylor is so popular, I'm not sure you're such a great music critic because it's quite easy to understand. 

 

I also can't entirely agree that she's unexceptional. She's not a great singer, but she is a rather brilliant songwriter when she wants to be - she's also very prolific and manages to turn out a new original album every two years, consistently feeding her fanbase. She's got a knack for marketing and fan engagement (and yes, those are and always have been parts of the job). She manages to put on a great consistent performance on tours, despite lacking vocal and dance skills. 

 

There are other actual elements that have built up her career to this point but I'm not in the mood to hammer out an essay for ATRL of all places. However, I think you have to be actively looking to dislike her or invalidate her success in order for it to go over your head. But I understand - her fans can be very annoying bc she's historically one of the biggest culprits of fostering the parasocial dynamic and they have a tendency to invalidate every other female artist to uphold her, and she's completely dominated the mainstream. I like her quite a lot, but I also pretty much grew up alongside her music (which is also another factor). 

[Bosque]

On 8/17/2023 at 7:28 PM, Mornings said:

I really don’t think her success is about the music. 

 

That must be why she sells more albums than any other artist, has more people streaming her, and more total streams than anyone else, because no one cares about her music.

 

The irony of you talking about conspiracy nerds, then coming up with your own conspiracy theories instead of accepting that your personal taste isn't the be-all and end-all 

[Embustera]

Her music is easy to listen to. The lyrics she writes are simple and easy to remember.
She still has young fans who stream day and night.