celeb news Music critic: "Taylor massively overhyped. Critics afraid of backlash from Swifities"

[rihannafan]

29 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

. Anti-Hero is objectively a well written pop song

No.

[Redstreak]

23 hours ago, ptolemaea said:

Much of Taylor's appeal is that she is awkward and mediocre. The media spent years worshiping and promoting the incredibly talented, untouchable and unrelatable goddess Beyonce until everyone became collectively fatigued.

 

Taylor Swift with her stiff dancing, shrill vocals, and cheugy lyrics offers a comforting alternative to your typical frumpy millennial white woman with tons of expendable cash, who can relate to and identify with Swift's mediocrity. "If someone as dull and basic as Taylor Swift can make it, maybe I can too."

These are always the most boring takes. Come to me when your fave has the critical acclaim Ms Swift has

[RihRihGirrrl]

How about we stop trying to police which artists are worthy of success and how much success they're worthy of.....art is not a formula, there's nothing that says you need x amount of dancing skills, x amount of vocal ability and x amount of lyrical genius to become an ultra superstar. The most important part of being a successful artist is to find your lane, connect with your audience, and feed the hell out of that audience. Taylor does that better than anyone.....it's that simple. 

[carameldelight]

Agreed, how did we go from " hi kids spelling is fun?", cute but waning lover era to this sudden spurt of dominance?  I do think that Tiktok pushing her content was the main factor in addition to the rerecords.  She is the female coldplay though, nice music that is easily digestible for a whitewashed world. Chris Martin and Bob Dylan already proved you don't need to be a great singer to sell out stadiums.

 

Anyways, she is the culmination of mainstream consumerism just like kpop. I used to like KPOP back in the early 2010's but it's completely soulless and relies on cult followers.

Edited August 14, 2023 by carameldelight

[carameldelight]

7 hours ago, Windy Day said:

i believe she is overhyped in the sense where she does not bring anything new to the table as an artist

 

you can say that and have dozens of swifties flooding your mentions with pictures of her streams stats and packed stadiums lmao but they can't prove that she's bringing something else artistically. she's just there, releasing cute, polished and conforming pop songs, and honestly it's good for her! but the difference between her hype and her artistic contribution is the reason there's a growing sentiment of her being overhyped

 

what i admire about her is her strong and excellent PR machine. i've studied PR and we even talked about her. especially all of the articles about her and the tour recently stroke me as good PR moves lol

 

just look at what good PR is doing for her: her fans are provoking seismic activities and it's reported as "record breaking" and overall in a good light. two weeks later, travis scott's fans causes the same seismic activities at his show, and the medias are painting it as terrible, dangerous and overall bad. the comparison of the two cases shows the obvious difference in their PR machine, travis' PR being disatrous 

 

in the end, i think her PR combined with her being oversaturated is a dangerous game to play and she might end up like BTS where even in korea, their PR campaign exhausted the general public. the only difference is that taylor's fanbase might still be bigger because she panders to white america. but i believe the business and public relations aspect of her career should be applauded 

I think this is a pretty fair assessment. 

[stipidstid]

19 hours ago, stevyy said:

That wasn't the point of the article. The point - in parts - was about the fans who threaten other people. 

While I still contest that a somewhat sizable portion of the article somewhat downplayed Taylor’s reach and impact, THAT particular part of the article I 100% agreed with. No one should be bludgeoned for having an understandable difference of opinion, and I heavily object to the antagonism that accompanies (very sadly) typical stan behavior. 

 

It’s very possible to love an artist without trying to dismember anyone who doesn’t share the same sentiments. 

[Steve Johnson]

10 hours ago, carameldelight said:

Agreed, how did we go from " hi kids spelling is fun?", cute but waning lover era to this sudden spurt of dominance?

Did you forget that folklore and evermore happened a year after ME!ss ? 

[WildHeart]

14 hours ago, carameldelight said:

how did we go from " hi kids spelling is fun?", cute but waning lover era to this sudden spurt of dominance?

 

 

[prézli]

Absolutely true.

[stevyy]

4 hours ago, stipidstid said:

While I still contest that a somewhat sizable portion of the article somewhat downplayed Taylor’s reach and impact, THAT particular part of the article I 100% agreed with. No one should be bludgeoned for having an understandable difference of opinion, and I heavily object to the antagonism that accompanies (very sadly) typical stan behavior. 

 

It’s very possible to love an artist without trying to dismember anyone who doesn’t share the same sentiments. 

Sometimes the fans make it very hard for other people to like the artist. 

 

Sometimes two artists are even friends, while their fan bases clash for some stupid reason. 

[Mr. Stratus]

18 hours ago, Redstreak said:

These are always the most boring takes. Come to me when your fave has the critical acclaim Ms Swift has

that doesn't mean she is talented. Women don't care about metacrtic scores when they go to a concert so they are not threatened by her. That user was basically saying:
they want to see a lankey blonde awkward woman with 0 charisma walking round the stage barely being able to sing and pointing.

 

They want to feel like she is acccesible and 'on side' and thats fine - a complete juxtaposition from Beyonce. For every taylor and selena theres a beyonce. They fit like a cog in a machine

Edited August 15, 2023 by Mr. Stratus

[prézli]

On 8/13/2023 at 5:21 PM, VinylKing said:

After all the media has put her through she def deserves the hype and critics deserve to be bashed - they were tolerated enough LOL 

You're saying this with a Britney avi?   What Britney went through was much much worse, I must say the worst. Even her peers, Beyoncé who stopped giving interviews.

[Redstreak]

1 minute ago, Mr. Stratus said:

that doesn't mean she is talented. Women don't care about metacrtic scores when they go to a concert so they are not threatened by her. That user was basically saying they want to see a lankey blonde awkward woman with 0 charisma walking round the stage barely being able to sing and pointing. They want to feel like she is accsible

I’m assuming you asked those women that yourself? Is the playing four instruments the lack of talent? The award winning song writing? I feel like OTH really don’t get the emotional connection people have to her music. It’s why other artists streams are so abysmal, there’s no connection

[Steve Johnson]

3 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

It’s why other artists streams are so abysmal, there’s no connection

what do you expect from artists making crap, dated music? 

[Mr. Stratus]

6 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

I’m assuming you asked those women that yourself? Is the playing four instruments the lack of talent? The award winning song writing? I feel like OTH really don’t get the emotional connection people have to her music. It’s why other artists streams are so abysmal, there’s no connection

Well thats why theres the connection

 

they want someone on side 'girl power' kinda thing. BTS streams are good to cause of their fan connection. I think in pop a good team can conquer all.

[Steve Johnson]

Just now, Mr. Stratus said:

Well thats why theres the connection

 

they want someone on side 'girl power' kinda thing. BTS streams are good to cause of their fan connection. I think in pop a good team can conquer all.

BTS are nowhere near as dominant as Taylor. Taylor is literally charting 9 albums in top 30 this week, BTS zero. No amount of fandom power can make you chart 9 in top 30. 

 

[Steve Johnson]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Stratus said:

Well thats why theres the connection

Or people just connect to good music. 

[lonnie]

While I do agree with her that swifties are insufferable and that it must be stressful dealing with stans in a profession where you're supposed to critique them, it is cowardly for any critic to simply give good reviews out of fear that stans would attack otherwise. 

 

Taylor is probably the artist most undeserving of her critical acclaim, and how she's managed to get the acclaim she has despite her overall lackluster writing with spurts of brilliance here and there, weak vocals, and a sound that's never innovative or groundbreaking is a mystery. But chalking up to her because of being afraid of her stans is just ridiculous.

[Redstreak]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Stratus said:

Well thats why theres the connection

 

they want someone on side 'girl power' kinda thing. BTS streams are good to cause of their fan connection. I think in pop a good team can conquer all.

I’m talking a personal connection. I can fit so much of her music into my life, think of specific memories and feelings that make these songs resonate personally. It truly feels like growing up with an artist, if Taylor literally never performed there would still be that emotional pull that other artists don’t really elicit in the way she does. Unless you’re just stating she’s the only mediocre white artist ever? Cause where’s the next Taylor Swift?

[XXI.]

I can understand the sentiment that sometimes when people are so overly obsessed with something you can be turned off by it. However, the star power that Taylor has is undeniable at this point, and she works incredibly hard on her output. So, on that basis I don't know if 'overhyped' is the right word.

 

I had a friend that traveled and attended at least 12 stops on the Eras tour with a new Taylor themed outfit for each. I've never seen something like that before.

[genio]

I'm not a Taylor stan, but I always said this and still stand by it. A person who works as hard as Taylor does, deserves all the success they get. With all the content she puts out and the way she treats, interacts and behaves towards her fans, the Swifties should count themselves as the luckiest fanbase among all MPGs. 

 

Also as someone who loves charts, it's really cool to see all the success she gets due to the tour and the re-recordings. I mean charting 4 albums in the Top 10 just because you're on tour is something, imo only The Beatles or Michael Jackson could have achieved (if everything were under the same circumstances of course).  

[Vroom Vroom]

[gagacasanova]

The Swifties don't play bestie. ******* your ass up is what they do best.

 

[McNulty]

No lies detected 

[AaronBryceSufjan]

yes, critics should be afraid, so what?