celeb news Music critic: "Taylor massively overhyped. Critics afraid of backlash from Swifities"

[Dear Reader]

not some people serving "if Taylor wasn't born, she wouldn't be here" type of logic and you giving them fuel to their fire...

 

Anyway, why should we care about this person's opinion? She just charted 4 albums inside of Billboard's Top 10, so I think she might be doing something right 

[Punky Rooster]

5 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Lost In Your eyes is nowhere near as haunting and beautifully written as Folkmore is. Debbie's lyricism was NEVER as developed as Taylor. Happiness alone >>>>>>

 

But clearly you don't actually want to have this conversation, you've made up your mind already 

Ditto you. You didn’t give me any clear reason other than comparing a 16 year old girls lyrics to a 30 something’s woman. When it comes to Taylor, the term “artistic” is thrown around as a reason of her success with no real merit, as anything can be considered artistic if it resonates with you somehow. 

[Polgg48]

another taylor thread eager to be locked again and yeah it's slowly drain the importance of rating scores day by day since critic circle always mess with drama or politic all the time, not about music itself at all. definitely cross the line from stans in geneal not just swiftie, attacking critic exposing their faces/former bad rate citing like sixth grade kids. sad days

[LOTF]

11 minutes ago, Punky Rooster said:

Ditto you. You didn’t give me any clear reason other than comparing a 16 year old girls lyrics to a 30 something’s woman. When it comes to Taylor, the term “artistic” is thrown around as a reason of her success with no real merit, as anything can be considered artistic if it resonates with you somehow. 

This tea. But they just wouldn't get it

[Phaunzie]

1 minute ago, Enrique523 said:

No, this is entirely your opinion. Your and some TERF's biased opinions =/= "the truth" 

 I guess her stage presence, dancing and singing at the Eras Tour is too next level for someone as simple as me. I mean our just fine starlet's tour is being treated as the best tour of the decade, and has been getting universal acclaim for basic choreography and half decent vocals. But I guess that is what you like since you probably already bought a ticket to or went to the concert, you would know what you saw or going to see.  

 

Sadly the tour underdelivers for an artist like her, like you would think she would improve from the Reputation Tour, but unlike Dua she hasn't.

 

 

[Kingdom]

Well she is overhypes especially for someone with zero performance and vocal abilities..and even the new york times was right, she is very stiff and awkward. lmao

[brazil]

1 hour ago, Enrique523 said:

!!!!!!!!!

 

The irony of a Britney stan thinking that tabloids trash-talking a pop star is "valid" 

Nobody is saying that trash talking is valid or that everyone needz to hate Taylor. People are just questioning some success and acclaim that might not necessarily be warranted, like better metacritic scores for rerecordings that are objectively worse than the originals.

 

Also, I asked people for their thoughts in the OP 

 

[JayG]

WBK shes overrated lmfao, is this news?

[Arrows]

2 hours ago, Love Again said:

I’ll reword it: artists who treat their albums like moving art pieces like Gaga or Madonna. Who create entire productions of their tours, who release a tour film for every tour, who have music videos with long stories and a lot of costumes. Who pay attention to their visuals.

Tay treats her albums with the highest importance even a decade later, she creates productions for her tours and has released a tour film for all of them except Red. She has long videos, self-directed videos and videos with 10+ costumes. 

 

It’s totally fine if you don’t like any of it, not everyone has to, but she does do all those things you listed.

[Kimi]

1 hour ago, Espresso said:

Red was overhyped, but 1989 wasn't overpraised.

girl dont play dumb it will get rave reviews, every rerecording is acclaimed

[Lemon]

1 hour ago, Punky Rooster said:

It’s true though. She’s existing in the streaming era, she wouldn’t have had a hundred hit songs if she was a thing a few decades ago where this simply wasn’t possible. She’s exploited this so well but it’s all a bit shallow.

 

She’d have had a lot more competition back then when we had multiple female superstars whereas now she’s competing with people who got “big” with one song that went viral via a social media app.
 

I don’t think her success is undeserved, it’s just totally blown out of any proportion because she is this generations only true music star. She plays it safe because relatability and predictability is what this gen craves, not a larger than life figure that seems unreachable like we had back in those days.

Do you realize she was already competing with mega superstars like Lady Gaga and Beyonce during Fearless, and both of those had huge mainstream pop eras? And that’s just one example. Speak Now was in the midst of Adele’s monstrous 21 and Rihanna hitmaking smashing. 
Maybe there is less competition these days as you say, but that doesn’t make Taylor less anything. She was already competing during formative years of her career and a lot. 
 

Her singing and writing about common human experiences is not something that we can describe as “by-the-numbers”. Thinking topics related to, for example, epihany and Soon You’ll Get Better are “basic” is what I would call basic interpretation, no offense, because I would love those things to be actually that “bland and basic” for real. 
 

[Brikenbur]

People in here forgetting this is an OPINION and Miss Kara literally hit the nail on the head every time. 

[YellowRibbon]

She's wrong, but I expected nothing else from someone like her 

[cOe]

I like many of Taylor's songs and I could be considered a fan but she's really a master capitalist. Her story telling replaced the hole left behind dwindling reading rates tbh

[Headlock]

2 hours ago, Erreur2 La Nature said:

Taylor has one hit song in my country. Her name is not famous for those above 30 years old here and I don’t say that as a shade.

 

I know her fanbase is huge and she can sold out her shows easily but there’s no need for rewritting history, my country is known as one of the few countries where Taylor struggles a lot, so it’s always surprising to me to see her massive eras in the US.

Sis, this reads as you refusing to accept the current reality of her popularity 

[dumbsparce]

She simply said she doesn't understand the mania around Taylor bc to her she's just ok. The dramatics in here further prove her point.

 

I mean, I too don't understand how the mania came to be and I consider myself a casual fan of hers.

Edited August 13, 2023 by dumbsparce

[Vermillion]

35 minutes ago, Kimi said:

girl dont play dumb it will get rave reviews, every rerecording is acclaimed

Off the back of entirely different narratives than the original work themselves but how they’re repurposed, etc. 

 

I’m not playing dumb, they’re praising a re-recording off different standards. If you have a problem with that take it up with the reviewers. 

[kyoshi]

we really are re-entering the 1989 era it’s not even hard to understand why she’s so popular you all just like hating on her

[NEX]

She worked really hard to build her empire. She's literally the hardest working pop girl out there and she's got very solid output to back that up. If Taylor doesn't deserve this level of success, then your lazy ass faves certainly don't either. It's ok not to understand why she's so loved, but it's not ok to try to diminish her success and acclaim to "critics are just scared to speak up" rhetoric. 

[Outlaws]

I’ve been saying it. 

[John Slayne]

but NOW we said it 

[John Slayne]

47 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

She simply said she doesn't understand the mania around Taylor bc to her she's just ok. The dramatics in here further prove her point.

this lol. she literally said Taylor is 'fine', but because she's not kissing her behind lil swiffers have mental breakdown

[Bosque]

12 pages  the haters really needed this, huh? I guess ignoring an artist that they think is overhyped just is not an option 

[Fleahive]

1 hour ago, Lemon said:

Do you realize she was already competing with mega superstars like Lady Gaga and Beyonce during Fearless, and both of those had huge mainstream pop eras? And that’s just one example. Speak Now was in the midst of Adele’s monstrous 21 and Rihanna hitmaking smashing. 
Maybe there is less competition these days as you say, but that doesn’t make Taylor less anything. She was already competing during formative years of her career and a lot. 
 

Her singing and writing about common human experiences is not something that we can describe as “by-the-numbers”. Thinking topics related to, for example, epihany and Soon You’ll Get Better are “basic” is what I would call basic interpretation, no offense, because I would love those things to be actually that “bland and basic” for real. 
 

As a part time Taylor hater your first paragraph is true. It’s weird because I never considered her to be a household name until Red or for some homes 1989 but Fearless did massive numbers. I was familiar with the singles as a person who wasn’t paying attention to her career but she lowkey was outselling main pop girls at the time who were a lot more popular in the media at the time. She was the dark horse nobody saw coming. 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Dephira said:

12 pages  the haters really needed this, huh? I guess ignoring an artist that they think is overhyped just is not an option 

It's really pathetic how much life they're getting from this. They're SO MAD at her success that they're praising some random lunatic's article whom, on top of being a TERF, is literally saying that mental breakdowns from female popstars is good because it's making them "interesting". I will NEVER not be fascinated at how low OTHs will go on this site, just shameless 

 

It's almost as if, in their heads, articles like this make Taylor "less successful" in a way, which is NOT how it works. Ask Madonna about it 

Edited August 13, 2023 by Enrique523