celeb news Music critic: "Taylor massively overhyped. Critics afraid of backlash from Swifities"

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Raspberries said:

Why is a Britney Spears fan making a thread about critics is the real question 

!!!!!!!!!

 

The irony of a Britney stan thinking that tabloids trash-talking a pop star is "valid" 

[nostalgic]

The crux of her argument later in the article seems to be that because she isn't snorting coke on the weekends, having a schizophrenic breakdown or flashing the paparazzi, she's boring and therefore not deserving of her popularity. This is why artists are all ****** up, because the media loves a trainwreck but can't stand anyone that actually might have their head on straight. They can't fathom that perhaps she's just normal, there HAS to be something hiding behind the curtain. There's an argument to be had about critics being afraid to be honest about certain artists' music due to potential backlash but this is just a bizarre way to make your point. 

[SwiftLover]

Duh, every fanbase goes after negative reviews  Swifties are just too numerous and powerful, we gotta keep blondie safe - OTH are DERANGED & DANGEROUS 

[Punky Rooster]

Let’s just say that if Taylor emerged in the 80s or 90s, she’d not be anywhere as big as she is now. Her act is very Debbie Gibson.
 

She is the only true star of current days, but yes she is very by-the-numbers and safe but it’s what this generation want, controversy and edge get people cancelled. Good on her though, she’s a hard worker and has some lovely gowns.

[James_Joint]

It’s giving pick me energy.  The numbers are fact, not opinion, whether you’re a fan or not.  

[Devin]

2 minutes ago, Punky Rooster said:

Let’s just say that if Taylor emerged in the 80s or 90s, she’d not be anywhere as big as she is now. Her act is very Debbie Gibson.
 

She is the only true star of current days, but yes she is very by-the-numbers and safe but it’s what this generation want, controversy and edge get people cancelled. Good on her though, she’s a hard worker and has some lovely gowns.

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[flashfox]

She is not wrong but swifties aren't the only fandom the more prominent the artist the more unhinged the fanbase acts.

 

Taylor is a hit or miss for me but I cannot deny her impact and she has some great and beautiful timeless smashes.

 

I believe she hit more career peaks in the future

[Raspberries]

5 minutes ago, Punky Rooster said:

Let’s just say that if Taylor emerged in the 80s or 90s, she’d not be anywhere as big as she is now. Her act is very Debbie Gibson.
 

She is the only true star of current days, but yes she is very by-the-numbers and safe but it’s what this generation want, controversy and edge get people cancelled. Good on her though, she’s a hard worker and has some lovely gowns.

The hypotheticals  

[littlebodybigheart]

as they should be scared

[mathekr]

They are not wrong, and I say this as someone who enjoys a lot of her music. But this is entirely the media and critics fault for taking poptimism way beyond they should have and engaging it to stan culture. She's poptimism's poster child now.

[flashfox]

Plus she's not even the most overhyped artist right now the like of Ed, dake and harry styles are (do the latter two  even have any talent?)

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Raspberries said:

The hypotheticals  

Right. When has Debbie Gibson EVER done something as artistic as Folkmore? 

 

People will say ANYTHING to try to discredit her, no matter how illogical it is 

[GraceRandolph]

2 minutes ago, flashfox said:

Plus she's not even the most overhyped artist right now the like of Ed, dake and harry styles are (do the latter two  even have any talent?)

Ed hasn’t been overhyped for awhile. Harry and Drake are though. 

[SlowGinFizzzz]

Maybe she spilled a bit. 

[Punky Rooster]

1 minute ago, Raspberries said:

The hypotheticals  

It’s true though. She’s existing in the streaming era, she wouldn’t have had a hundred hit songs if she was a thing a few decades ago where this simply wasn’t possible. She’s exploited this so well but it’s all a bit shallow.

 

She’d have had a lot more competition back then when we had multiple female superstars whereas now she’s competing with people who got “big” with one song that went viral via a social media app.
 

I don’t think her success is undeserved, it’s just totally blown out of any proportion because she is this generations only true music star. She plays it safe because relatability and predictability is what this gen craves, not a larger than life figure that seems unreachable like we had back in those days.

[Starshine]

The +50 notification every time I come back from a different tab. 

[Punky Rooster]

2 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Right. When has Debbie Gibson EVER done something as artistic as Folkmore? 

 

People will say ANYTHING to try to discredit her, no matter how illogical it is 

Explain to me how Folklore is any more artistic than Lost In Your Eyes, which Debbie wrote and produced alone at age 16. Leave critics out of this and tell me why you believe your statement is correct.

[Erreur2 La Nature]

1 hour ago, Headlock said:

Taylor sold out 6 stadium dates in your country 

Taylor has one hit song in my country. Her name is not famous for those above 30 years old here and I don’t say that as a shade.

 

I know her fanbase is huge and she can sold out her shows easily but there’s no need for rewritting history, my country is known as one of the few countries where Taylor struggles a lot, so it’s always surprising to me to see her massive eras in the US.

[Luckitty]

this is one of the worst things about social media and stan twitter, music critics can't even criticize songs without getting their entire family doxxed

 

i've seen bts stans doxx music critics AND non-critics for saying that they don't like bts's music.. 

[Vermillion]

15 minutes ago, Punky Rooster said:

Let’s just say that if Taylor emerged in the 80s or 90s, she’d not be anywhere as big as she is now. Her act is very Debbie Gibson.
 

She is the only true star of current days, but yes she is very by-the-numbers and safe but it’s what this generation want, controversy and edge get people cancelled. Good on her though, she’s a hard worker and has some lovely gowns.

Not a Swiftie but a hypothetical is not an argument. Blame the culture if you have a problem, not her.

 

Also can't stand the framework of by-the-numbers or controversy+edge with no room for anything in between that is by the way the main problem with her piece.

 

Also, what's the barometer for her being overhyped? Metacritic scores and stadium stats? No one can agree on a baseline and the goalposts keep moving.

 

10 minutes ago, mathekr said:

They are not wrong, and I say this as someone who enjoys a lot of her music. But this is entirely the media and critics fault for taking poptimism way beyond they should have and engaging it to stan culture. She's poptimism's poster child now.

When and how was poptimism linked to stan culture? And if it was, how was it ever linked to Taylor?

 

Taylor's top singles on Acclaimed Music for the 2010's are #46 and #51. Red was overhyped, but 1989 wasn't overpraised.

 

The fanbases of poptimist females like Robyn, Carly, Mitski and Grimes aren't big enough to make a difference.

 

Lana you could definitely make that argument on, but for Taylor it's a stretch.

 

 

 

[Phaunzie]

I guess the girls wanna act like this is a lie. The truth is it isn't. Overhyped Underdelivering Popstar, OUP.

 

We love our 'just fine' queen

[Blackout2006]

43 minutes ago, byzantium said:

But then wouldn’t the fact that there are entire groups of people (and daily threads) saying how she has no talent, made bad music etc, say that she is underrated? 

Yes, but they are anyway receiving countless responses from many Swifties coming to her defense. The ratio of OTHs and Swifties on this site is drastic  

44 minutes ago, byzantium said:

 It would be a lot healthier if everyone did not care about the fact that other people like something and just focused on what makes them happy. 

Exactly...If Swifties followed that, we wouldn't have had instances such as the Pitchfork critic receiving online backlash for grading 'Folklore' with a mediocre score. 

[4Real]

But honestly who cares

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Phaunzie said:

I guess the girls wanna act like this is a lie. The truth is it isn't. Overhyped Underdelivering Popstar, OUP.

 

We love our 'just fine' queen

No, this is entirely your opinion. Your and some TERF's biased opinions =/= "the truth" 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Punky Rooster said:

Explain to me how Folklore is any more artistic than Lost In Your Eyes, which Debbie wrote and produced alone at age 16. Leave critics out of this and tell me why you believe your statement is correct.

Lost In Your eyes is nowhere near as haunting and beautifully written as Folkmore is. Debbie's lyricism was NEVER as developed as Taylor. Happiness alone >>>>>>

 

But clearly you don't actually want to have this conversation, you've made up your mind already