celeb news Music critic: "Taylor massively overhyped. Critics afraid of backlash from Swifities"

[Headlock]

14 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Omg, yas queen! We need more reporters like her

Do we? 

 

Edit: Not this post getting reported twice in the span of 3 minutes, y’all are mad 

Edited August 13, 2023 by Headlock

[Blackout2006]

The thread was just opened an hour ago, and it has already begun a waterfall of 100+ comments proving her point  

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Love Again said:

I do agree to an extent that critics tend to overhype Taylor albums, I don’t think all her rerecordings for example deserve such high scores (especially Fearless and Speak Now, I think Red TV’s score was justified)

 

I also think Midnights’ critical acclaim was not necessary, it’s a fine album but not an 80+ metascore album.

 

Taylor is not overhyped when it comes to her cultural influence because that’s just there and the GP chose her as their favourite artist, there is nothing we can do about that. I sometimes do wonder why Taylor is the one dominating the female part of the music industry and not a more daring, controversial artist but that’s my personal preference.

Look, i genuinely respect your opinion but i just don't get why female artists HAVE to be controversial in order to be "valid" as the world's biggest popstars. It's a very limited way of viewing things, especially when everything has been done already in terms of being "controversial".

 

Take Dua Lipa: we both love her, she's my second fave after Taylor (when it comes to current big pop stars, i'm not counting Madonna) yet she isn't "daring" or "controversial" in any way. And that's fine. That doesn't mean she doesn't deserve her success and i'm sure you wouldn't have a problem if SHE was the world's biggest female popstar.

[Solaria]

3 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Look, i genuinely respect your opinion but i just don't get why female artists HAVE to be controversial in order to be "valid" as the world's biggest popstars. It's a very limited way of viewing things, especially when everything has been done already in terms of being "controversial".

 

Take Dua Lipa: we both love her, she's my second fave after Taylor (when it comes to current big pop stars, i'm not counting Madonna) yet she isn't "daring" or "controversial" in any way. And that's fine. That doesn't mean she doesn't deserve her success and i'm sure you wouldn't have a problem if SHE was the world's biggest female popstar.

I’ll reword it: artists who treat their albums like moving art pieces like Gaga or Madonna. Who create entire productions of their tours, who release a tour film for every tour, who have music videos with long stories and a lot of costumes. Who pay attention to their visuals.

 

But again, that’s my PERSONAL preference. I’m not saying female artists have to be like in order to be succesful, but I’d like to see more artists like this on top. I want a music video revival. I want someone to save pop like Gaga again

[The Music Industry]

5 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Look, i genuinely respect your opinion but i just don't get why female artists HAVE to be controversial in order to be "valid" as the world's biggest popstars. It's a very limited way of viewing things, especially when everything has been done already in terms of being "controversial".

 

Take Dua Lipa: we both love her, she's my second fave after Taylor (when it comes to current big pop stars, i'm not counting Madonna) yet she isn't "daring" or "controversial" in any way. And that's fine. That doesn't mean she doesn't deserve her success and i'm sure you wouldn't have a problem if SHE was the world's biggest female popstar.

[The Music Industry]

6 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

The thread was just opened an hour ago, and it has already begun a waterfall of 100+ comments proving her point  

...Or that's a result of Taylor being one of the only exciting thing in pop culture right now? I mean literally half of this week's top threads are directly about her No wonder OTHs are bitter

[Reflektor_Creep]

[Blue Rose]

24 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Not her viciously attacking Taylor and her fans and THEN play the victim on Twitter 

 

she’s literally just further proving the point of her article as any good writer would do

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Shelter said:

Intentions for what? I don’t get why you’re upset over tweets, which is more aimed at Swifties behaviour than Taylor. 

Why are you acting as if this behavior is unique to Swifties? Literally EVERY fanbase of big pop girls do this sh*t once their faves get slightly criticized 

Edited August 13, 2023 by Enrique523

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Love Again said:

I’ll reword it: artists who treat their albums like moving art pieces like Gaga or Madonna. Who create entire productions of their tours, who release a tour film for every tour, who have music videos with long stories and a lot of costumes. Who pay attention to their visuals.

 

But again, that’s my PERSONAL preference. I’m not saying female artists have to be like in order to be succesful, but I’d like to see more artists like this on top. I want a music video revival. I want someone to save pop like Gaga again

 

Gaga "saving pop" 

 

Let's just agree to disagree 

[byzantium]

10 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

The thread was just opened an hour ago, and it has already begun a waterfall of 100+ comments proving her point  

This kind of just proves that Taylor is just the center of conversation these days.  

[Escape]

10 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Look, i genuinely respect your opinion but i just don't get why female artists HAVE to be controversial in order to be "valid" as the world's biggest popstars. It's a very limited way of viewing things, especially when everything has been done already in terms of being "controversial".

 

Take Dua Lipa: we both love her, she's my second fave after Taylor (when it comes to current big pop stars, i'm not counting Madonna) yet she isn't "daring" or "controversial" in any way. And that's fine. That doesn't mean she doesn't deserve her success and i'm sure you wouldn't have a problem if SHE was the world's biggest female popstar.

 

There certainly would not be a problem.

[Solaria]

Just now, Enrique523 said:

 

Gaga "saving pop" 

 

Let's just agree to disagree 

Gaga did save pop in 2008-2011. Pop was very stale, she was very exciting to watch

[Blackout2006]

4 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

...Or that's a result of Taylor being one of the only exciting thing in pop culture right now? I mean literally half of this week's top threads are directly about her No wonder OTHs are bitter

I'm not bitter about it or anything, but considering I've seen actual instances of what she has said, I can see why many critics are hesitant to share even slightly negative opinions about Tay

[Blackout2006]

2 minutes ago, byzantium said:

This kind of just proves that Taylor is just the center of conversation these days.  

You're right but I'm mainly talking abt the fans rushing in to deny what she is saying?

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Blue Rose said:

she’s literally just further proving the point of her article as any good writer would do

Oh sure, a TERF who think Taylor isn't good because she's never been in rehab is definitively a "good" writer 

 

Let me teach you something: just because someone is saying something negative about a popgirl you don't like doesn't mean that you have to blindly defend them. 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Love Again said:

Gaga did save pop in 2008-2011. Pop was very stale, she was very exciting to watch

Which is probably the reason why someone like Gaga was considered "groundbreaking" in any way 

 

Gaga was already called the new coming of Madonna barely months into her career, now THAT is being overhyped.

[Gorjesspazze9]

Literally every fandom is rabid and obnoxious online

this ain’t nothing new. 

[Blue Rose]

2 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Oh sure, a TERF who think Taylor isn't good because she's never been in rehab is definitively a "good" writer 

 

Let me teach you something: just because someone is saying something negative about a popgirl you don't like doesn't mean that you have to blindly defend them. 

Is it negative or just the truth? She made more points than those writers that were comparing Taylor to MJ and Madonna. At the very least it’s just as ridiculous but you all took those articles as gospel 

[byzantium]

13 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

You're right but I'm mainly talking abt the fans rushing in to deny what she is saying?

But then wouldn’t the fact that there are entire groups of people (and daily threads) saying how she has no talent, made bad music etc, say that she is underrated?  This thread kind of is paradoxical if you think of it.  
 

It all just feels like people struggling with their cognitive dissonance of other people having different perspectives than their own.  It would be a lot healthier if everyone did not care about the fact that other people like something and just focused on what makes them happy. 

Edited August 13, 2023 by byzantium

[The Music Industry]

2 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

She made more points than those writers that were comparing Taylor to MJ and Madonna.

No she didn't. She shared a pressed opinion about an artist she doesn't like. The writers who compared Taylor to MJ and Madonna were talking about her popularity and her current dominance in the industry. They shared facts. Taylor is factually shaping up to be the biggest solo artist since MJ and Madonna when you look at any objective metrics. Knowing you, I can see why you would like the pressed opinion over the facts, tho 

[byzantium]

1 minute ago, The Music Industry said:

No she didn't. She shared a pressed opinion about an artist she doesn't like. The writers who compared Taylor to MJ and Madonna were talking about her popularity and her current dominance in the industry. They shared facts. Taylor is factually shaping up to be the biggest solo artist since MJ and Madonna when you look at any objective metrics. Knowing you, I can see why you would like the pressed opinion over the facts, tho 

Oh be careful. We all know a certain fanbase gets very sensitive about facts.  You might get a WP for even suggesting that. 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, The Music Industry said:

No she didn't. She shared a pressed opinion about an artist she doesn't like. The writers who compared Taylor to MJ and Madonna were talking about her popularity and her current dominance in the industry. They shared facts. Taylor is factually shaping up to be the biggest solo artist since MJ and Madonna when you look at any objective metrics. Knowing you, I can see why you would like the pressed opinion over the facts, tho 

And this is what OTHs on this site just CANNOT wrap their heads around. The comparisons were NEVER about "dance moves", it's OTHs who came up with that out of nowhere just to invalidate her 

[Lemon]

Another day, another attempt at downlpaying Taylor.
How do people have energy at this point is what interests me. 

[Raspberries]

Why is a Britney Spears fan making a thread about critics is the real question