FOCK Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Imagine thinking this change is based on any type of chart “integrity” I could sell y’all a box of hair. This change, as well as every recent major change Billboard has enacted, is purely a push by streaming giants, radio and labels to have more control & sway over chart manipulation, payola & playlisting/radio deals. They cannot compete with the clear support of consumers. In this manner, they’re dictating to you what you should like and support, scraping even more profits from an artist & “guaranteeing” them numbers in exchange for deals that leave them worse off. Was their mass buying? Yes, durr. But that is a greater indication of support/demand than being force fed paid placements on radio (a dying platform) & playlists. You’re exchanging a metric where manipulation gets mostly filtered out, for one where you can’t even see the manipulation at all. 5 1
istan4badgalriri Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, airplane said: Lift me up would have tanked harder nah it debuted at #2 on the streaming chart and didn't sell much on her webstore 2
Armani? Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 47 minutes ago, FOCK said: Imagine thinking this change is based on any type of chart “integrity” I could sell y’all a box of hair. This change, as well as every recent major change Billboard has enacted, is purely a push by streaming giants, radio and labels to have more control & sway over chart manipulation, payola & playlisting/radio deals. They cannot compete with the clear support of consumers. In this manner, they’re dictating to you what you should like and support, scraping even more profits from an artist & “guaranteeing” them numbers in exchange for deals that leave them worse off. Was their mass buying? Yes, durr. But that is a greater indication of support/demand than being force fed paid placements on radio (a dying platform) & playlists. You’re exchanging a metric where manipulation gets mostly filtered out, for one where you can’t even see the manipulation at all. Looks like you're afraid Ice Spice's frontloaded Top 10 streak is over Honestly I don't think they should have did it since they've already implemented measures to basically stop mass buying after the 1st week. But streaming is still more accurate than a small amount of fans mass buying songs to stay at a certain position every week
LustSpell Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 59 minutes ago, Mel. said: BTS’ label already found a way around this by selling Jungkook’s upcoming single by labeling it a physical single and and selling it for basically the same price as a digital single This is such utter loser behavior Dedicating your existence to charts because no one takes you seriously in the west is pathetic
FOCK Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, Armani? said: Looks like you're afraid Ice Spice's frontloaded Top 10 streak is over Not really, she’s still outstreaming, saur. Ice’s *buying fanbase are literally just Barbz, n e way.
Misguided Ghost Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, #Beautiful said: people were making fundraisers on twitter in order to fraudulently mass buy songs on release week. no one was actually consuming the song from the files. so no, it hasnt been a valid way to consider music consumption since like... 2015 when streaming kicked in This. It's a good change.
Erreur2 La Nature Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 4 hours ago, enchanted0 said: They should've done this wayyyy before if they was gonna do it. Hot 100 is already tarnished their rep it's too late Agreed with this. There are so many ways to manipulate the chart anyway...
Green Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 OMG YESSSSSSSSSS No more fraudulent sales from BTS Army and Barbz
Green Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Inhwan said: I don't understand why it took so long After Jimin's last fraud #1 I guess they had enough
BlackoutZone Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 They should limit every single purchase to one per person no matter of the format 1
slw84 Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 the only fanbase that didn't move is the Swifties. Swifties at most smirked because they already know Taylor is good one way or another Honestly, Billboard should have implemented this after BTS' reign diminished. 2021/2022 was the perfect time tbh
slw84 Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Should have never been allowed to begin with Popularity should not be measured by tipping the scale (stans mass buying). Mariah Carey's loverboy peaked at #2 because stans bought 69 cent singles when in fact singles were around 2 dollars at that time. IT went from 55-2 and was still a flop single but the peak doesn't indicate it.
Red Velvet Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 They could have done this a few years earlier when Butter blocked Olivia for like 10 weeks
Green Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Kool_Aid_King said: All of our faves are gonna suffer as a result from this. Gaga, Bey, Tay, etc. Y'all gonna get Radio 100 again. Nah, we have streaming now which it's the biggest Hot 100 metric Ed's last payola radio single is #8 on Radio and it only peaked at #19 on the Hot 100 because of the poor streams
Specter Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, Armani? said: Looks like you're afraid Ice Spice's frontloaded Top 10 streak is over 19 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said: The fraudulent stans fuming
Material Girl Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 4 hours ago, #Beautiful said: people were making fundraisers on twitter in order to fraudulently mass buy songs on release week. no one was actually consuming the song from the files. so no, it hasnt been a valid way to consider music consumption since like... 2015 when streaming kicked in they still count radio and no one listens to that i think they should limit how many sales count per person but it really doesn’t make sense not to count sales from one website but will count sales from another
#Beautiful Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Material Girl said: they still count radio and no one listens to that i think they should limit how many sales count per person but it really doesn’t make sense not to count sales from one website but will count sales from another billboard is, as a whole, a joke and has been for many years. i agree. they'll close the chart soon enough, mark my words 1
cloudbusting Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 good, the website specials for a couple of pixels were getting beyond ridiculous don’t know why people are saying no one listens to radio though - a quick google shows the format is still huge. just because you don’t listen doesn’t mean no one does. there are flaws to how it’s counted, sure, but idk why some people think it’s a dead medium
Summer Boy Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Kool_Aid_King said: All of our faves are gonna suffer as a result from this. Gaga, Bey, Tay, etc. Y'all gonna get Radio 100 again. Gaga is safe, Monsters are useless. Rain On Me debuted with +70k pure sales and only 3k of those came from her website (and most of it was from physicals), the rest (67k) is from iTunes.
Gaia Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 6 hours ago, JayRockafella said: That’s stupid It’s not stupid. Artists with large fanbases have abused it for years to get #1 or high debut weeks for singles.
Margaux Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 this would finally let t swift rest from releasing countless remix and rehash of the same song 1
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