naval23 Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 21, The Fame, Teenage Dream, Loud - there's been many
Clauss Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 Yes she did. She is smashing with 5 eras at the same time
KatyPrismSpirit Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: You just did. Eminem, Adele, add Ed Sheeran with the massive tour. Britney, nsync, bsb, Mariah, Celine, janet, all moved an insane amount of albums post MJ without the calculated tactics. She’s the it thing right now but she’ll never be bigger than beyonce who hasn’t moved as many units. If she has bigger sales, bigger tour (will break the record for biggest tour of all time by a female artist once the eras tour concludes). what makes you think she will never be bigger than beyonce? if the objective truth is out there lol...
Steve Johnson Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: what makes you think she will never be bigger than beyonce? You are so innocent hunny. Vibes & feels are more important than objective data here.
WildHeart Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: the aid of streaming 15 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: tactics 15 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: pandemic 16 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: re-recordings 17 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: Harry styles type of intense fan base 17 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: multiple albums in a row The amount of excuses 6 1 1
dirrtydiana Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said: If she has bigger sales, bigger tour (will break the record for biggest tour of all time by a female artist once the eras tour concludes). what makes you think she will never be bigger than beyonce? if the objective truth is out there lol... like I said, a million releases, post pandemic touring hype, exploitation of her fans. Records are meant to be broken, look at Ed Sheeran. It truly feels undeserved; imagine selener having this huge success. i don’t blame tay tho, she’s a businesswoman after all. It’s her fans here who need a reality check. But don’t take my word for it. We’ll let time be the ultimate truth teller.
dirrtydiana Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, Artistofthedecade said: The amount of excuses When facts hit nerves
Axelios Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, naval23 said: 21, The Fame, Teenage Dream, Loud - there's been many Loud is not even Rihanna biggest era... It's GGGB by far. Anyway none of these artists managed to sustain their success in the same way as Taylor who had three massive peaks (Fearless, 1989 and Midnights) spanning more than 10 years. 5
Klein Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, dirrtydiana said: We’ll let time be the ultimate truth teller. Yes we will. But so far, time has always been on Taylor's side. 2
dirrtydiana Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, Klein said: Yes we will. But so far, time has always been on Taylor's side. Time must be her other friend purring on her lap like Karma
Jaspurr Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 I don't think any other artist has ever been in a situation where they had multiple successful active eras on top of being on a (biggest of all time) tour that celebrates their legacy. So in a way, she's really redefining it.
Arrows Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: We’ll let time be the ultimate truth teller. After 17 years, I think time has told us enough already. 5 1
KatyPrismSpirit Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: like I said, a million releases, post pandemic touring hype, exploitation of her fans. Records are meant to be broken, look at Ed Sheeran. It truly feels undeserved; imagine selener having this huge success. i don’t blame tay tho, she’s a businesswoman after all. It’s her fans here who need a reality check. But don’t take my word for it. We’ll let time be the ultimate truth teller. using "Time the ultimate truth teller" as an excuse to dimish taylors success like her 10 to 13 year old albums and songs arent literally smashing like never seen before and performing better than our favs current singles? Taylor is HUGE. Just accept that. You look ridiculous trying to disprove it. She sells out stadiums in seconds worldwide. She almost does 100M streams on Spotify alone EVERY SINGLE DAY. 17 years into her career. Ed Sheeran literally cant even crack 100k first week only 9 years into his career meanwhile Taylor did 1.6M with Midnights 16 years into her career. Just be happy for her instead of hating. 5 1
WildHeart Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: When facts hit nerves Why would i be mad at stars aligning for her
Axelios Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: like I said, a million releases, post pandemic touring hype, exploitation of her fans. Records are meant to be broken, look at Ed Sheeran. It truly feels undeserved; imagine selener having this huge success. i don’t blame tay tho, she’s a businesswoman after all. It’s her fans here who need a reality check. But don’t take my word for it. We’ll let time be the ultimate truth teller. Taylor albums all sell extremely well individually. Her tours were huge even before the pandemic as she broke the biggest North America tour of all time record twice with 1989 and Reputation and she'll do it a third time with her current tour. She has obviously a much bigger career than the likes of Britney Spears and NSYNC whose only strength is high physical sales due to peaking in the early 2000s. Edited June 18, 2023 by Axelios
Arrows Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: not to mention none of the artists they mentioned went through a pandemic. Thousands of artists went through the pandemic. Then why did only Taylor apparantly benefit so much more than them? Edited June 18, 2023 by Arrows 1
dirrtydiana Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: using "Time the ultimate truth teller" as an excuse to dimish taylors success like her 10 to 13 year old albums and songs arent literally smashing like never seen before and performing better than our favs current singles? Taylor is HUGE. Just accept that. You look ridiculous trying to disprove it. She sells out stadiums in seconds worldwide. She almost does 100M streams on Spotify alone EVERY SINGLE DAY. 17 years into her career. Ed Sheeran literally cant even crack 100k first week only 9 years into his career meanwhile Taylor did 1.6M with Midnights 16 years into her career. Just be happy for her instead of hating. Do you know how to read? Why would I try to disprove that she’s the current it thing? Charts and the music industry are different right now, of course older faves didn’t achieve some of the things she’s taking advantage of right now. The only ones who look ridiculous here are the ones passing these achievements as their own as if she was going to share any of the profit with you. And you with the Katy avi, the best example of time being the ultimate truth teller
dirrtydiana Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Arrows said: Thousands of artists went through the pandemic. Then why did only Taylor apparantly benefit so much more than them? Well, some of them passed away before 2019 for one.. I- 1
dirrtydiana Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Axelios said: Taylor albums all sell extremely well indovidually. Her tours were huge even before the pandemic as she broke the biggest North America tour of all time record twice with 1989 and Reputation and she'll do it a third time with her current tour. She has obviously a much bigger career than the likes of Britney Spears and NSYNC whose only strength is high physical sales due to peaking in the early 2000s. Sweetie, they were the peak of physical sales, they didn’t benefit from it like Taylor is with streaming, just look at all the artists with 1,2B streamed songs. yes, records are meant to be broken. Madonna rightfully held it and some else in the future will take it from tay
brenda-walsh Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 y'all do way too much over this girl. she's obviously having one of the biggest mpg peaks but its more on the level of britney circa 99/2000 and gaga 09/10. not even bigger than adele's domination with 21 &25 in terms of overall music industry, are you aware michael jackson sold 65M pure sales of one album, made MTV/ music videos a thing, and revolutionized the entire industry with the impact still being seen today pls stop, these threads make the swifties look so delusional 3 2
Axelios Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, dirrtydiana said: Sweetie, they were the peak of physical sales, they didn’t benefit from it like Taylor is with streaming, just look at all the artists with 1,2B streamed songs. Do you realize how many streams are needed to have the equivalent of Britney BOMT 22 million pure sales? And that wasn't even the biggest seller of its year.
Axelios Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, brenda-walsh said: y'all do way too much over this girl. she's obviously having one of the biggest mpg peaks but its more on the level of britney circa 99/2000 and gaga 09/10. not even bigger than adele's domination with 21 &25 What's impressive about Taylor success is not just her current peak but the whole trajectory of her career she had multiple repeaks and never flopped in 17 years which is extremely rare in music. Edited June 18, 2023 by Axelios
Peroxide Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Scott Borchetta said: are you genuinely implying taylor is bigger than MJ? jesus christ it's time to get some perspective In 20/30 years time - yes, Taylor is going to be considered as big as MJ / The Beatles / Madonna. That is blatantly obvious 9 3
dirrtydiana Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Axelios said: Do you realize how many streams are needed to have the equivalent of Britney BOMT 22 million pure sales? And that wasn't even the biggest seller of its year. This post makes no sense. Is tay nearing anywhere near 22M equivalents with her 15 new releases? and the only ones who sold more than britney at the time were the likes of Eminem, nsync, bsb. If the peak in sales was a valid excuse then where are all the diamond albums from all the other girls at the time? Why didn’t Janet’s 2001 all for you go diamond? like I said, good for her for enjoying success like Ed did with touring, harry did with his last few albums and pocketing from the working class 1
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