Solaria Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Teenage Dream is (rightfully so) praised as one of the best pop eras ever! However, since we’re on numbersTRL, PRISM had 2 Diamond singles versus TD who has 1. And the Prismatic World Tour grossed 204.3M (251M adjusted for inflation) versus California Dreams Tour which grossed 59.5M (75.21M adjusted for inflation) Did Prism, her best album, win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power love Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Both eras are iconic but i still think Teenage Dream is that girl even though Prism is the better album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Monday Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) PRISM was a success it’s true, but it felt like a victory lap; Teenage Dream clears. It had more hits and is remembered as an imperial pop era. It also has better longevity Edited May 30, 2023 by Blue Monday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout2006 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I've always seen PRISM as her most significant peak. Yes, TD may outperform PRISM on the statistics front but in terms of an era, PRISM felt like such an event. Of course, so was TD but Katy was literally inescapable at this time. She was the biggest MPG, if not pop artist, at that point in time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Hmm, while I personally might like PRISM over TD, idk if it's actually bigger. Yes, it has two diamond singles instead of one, but the non-diamond singles of TD are waaayyy bigger than the non-diamond singles from PRISM. That must count for something!? The success of TOTGA, ET, TD, LFN... it's just non-comparable to the success of Unconditionally, TIHWD and Birthday.. If you add Part Of Me / Wide Awake into the mix, it becomes even bigger of a difference. That makes the TD era overall feel much more succesful and remembered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiss It Better Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 and the fact that she could've had more #1 hits from prism had she not messed up the singles walking on air, legendary lovers and it takes two remix feat. bruno mars + birthday with better video, unconditionally without dark horse overshadowing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerousbutera Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Dark Horse and Roar were bigger than the TD hits sans Firework, but there are 8 singles from Teenage Dream that clear everything from Prism except DH and Roar. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Nation Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Blue Monday said: PRISM was a success it’s true, but it felt like a victory lap; Teenage Dream clears. It had more hits and is remembered as an imperial pop era. It also has better longevity Great assessment. "PRISM" might have stronger stats, but it was only able to achieve this thanks to how monumental the "Teenage Dream" era was. Katy obviously played her cards right with the two hit singles (not a fan of "Dark Horse" at all, but that's what the GP wanted), investing on several high-profile performances throughout (where her vocals had significantly improved compared to the "Teenage Dream" performances), and having a really well-crafted world tour to accompany it. But as you said, "Teenage Dream" feels much more remembered as a whole, not helped by the remaining "PRISM" singles getting overshadowed by the two smash hits. "PRISM" was a successful era, but "Teenage Dream" was a pop culture moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Volcano Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) I wonder what would've happened had the singles run been something like this 1. Roar 2. Dark Horse (would've dark horsed any other #2 single so only option was to release it as 2nd single) 3. Legendary Lovers 4. It Takes Two Edited May 30, 2023 by Hot Volcano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 both iconique moments in pop culture. PRISM has more succesful music videos and better selling singles but Teenage Dream had more longevity and better overall stats (Grammy noms, 6 #1s, recurrent streams etc. I love both so much tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted May 30, 2023 Author Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: I wonder what would've happened had the singles run been something like this 1. Roar 2. Dark Horse (would've dark horsed any other #2 single so only option was to release it as 2nd single) 3. Legendary Lovers 4. It Takes Two Imo it should have been: 1. Roar 2. Dark Horse 3. Walking on Air 4. Black Widow (feat. Iggy Azalea) 5. Legendary Lovers (feat. Drake) 6. Unconditionally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 PRISM should’ve been Roar Unconditionally Dark Horse Walking on Air Legendary Lovers This Is How We Do (final single) and it wouldve been Teenage Dream pt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) No, in terms of album units it's not even close. According to Chartmasters: Teenage Dream: 24,569,000 Prism: 13,411,000 Edited May 30, 2023 by Axelios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 No….I’m not even sure how one could argue this. Teenage dream was one of the four major defining pop eras of the digital era only rivaled by Rihanna’s GGGB, Gaga’s TFM, and Taylor’s 1989. Prism was big but it was more on the level of Rihanna’s Loud or Ariana’s My Everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, Love Again said: Imo it should have been: 1. Roar 2. Dark Horse 3. Walking on Air 4. Black Widow (feat. Iggy Azalea) 5. Legendary Lovers (feat. Drake) 6. Unconditionally Legendary Lovers didn’t need Drake tbh he definitely wouldn’t fit that song. Maybe a Missy Elliott remix since the production kinda suits Missy and they did the Superbowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, byzantium said: No….I’m not even sure how one could argue this. Teenage dream was one of the four major defining pop eras of the digital era only rivaled by Rihanna’s GGGB, Gaga’s TFM, and Taylor’s 1989. Prism was big but it was more on the level of Rihanna’s Loud or Ariana’s My Everything. Teenage Dream is much bigger than GGGB. It actually rivaled with 21, 1989 and TFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted May 30, 2023 Author Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said: Teenage Dream is much bigger than GGGB. It actually rivaled with 21, 1989 and TFM So Katy is a legend like I said and ATRL has to continue to fume? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: Teenage Dream is much bigger than GGGB. It actually rivaled with 21, 1989 and TFM GGGB is not that far from 1989/TD. 21 is much bigger than all of the rest, it might even be the biggest female album of all time Edited May 30, 2023 by Axelios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: Teenage Dream is much bigger than GGGB. It actually rivaled with 21, 1989 and TFM In the US definitely. It is my understanding that GGGB was bigger in Europe which leveled things out. Still, I agree that TD was still bigger overall by a reasonable margin. I only mentioned it because I considered it to be the first imperial pop era of the digital era and in the ballpark of the others. I left out 21 because it did double all those eras and I don’t really consider it a pure pop era. Edited May 30, 2023 by byzantium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Axelios said: GGGB is not that far from 1989/TD. 21 is much bigger than all of the rest, it might even be the biggest female album of all time Teenage Dream is still on another level. It’s era eligibility in the US is around 90M units. The album will he certified DIAMOND this year and four of the singles are DIAMOND eligible. Besides that, Teenage Dream served much more longevity on the charts and it also does great daily streaming numbers. I believe its currently charting now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Eh... I don't think there's any conceivable way you could make a case for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 The fact that it had 2 diamond mega smashes and yet its at 13M CSPC shows that album wasn’t that big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istan4badgalriri Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: Teenage Dream is much bigger than GGGB. It actually rivaled with 21, 1989 and TFM TD & GGGB are on par 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Wolf Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 45 minutes ago, Blue Monday said: PRISM was a success it’s true, but it felt like a victory lap; Teenage Dream clears. It had more hits and is remembered as an imperial pop era. It also has better longevity Pretty much this. PRISM wouldn't have been the success it was had it not been for Teenage Dream catapulting it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasashite Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Teenage Dream is the biggest album but Katy was bigger in the Prism era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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