discussion The Little Mermaid bombing disastrously in China - Update: set for worst opening ever

[V$.]

 

[satellites.™]

6 hours ago, Bimbo said:

Some of y'all salivating at the thought of this bombing is so ******* weird

Exactly and they're racists too, I'm sorry. There is NO WAY you are excited about racism towards a black woman unless you yourself are racist.

[harwee]

2 minutes ago, V$. said:

 

 

My gosh she's super gorgeous.

 

 

 

 

 

[feelslikeadream]

19 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

"The film, though, belongs to Melissa McCarthy’s Ursula. She plays the cephalopod sea witch as Cruella de Vil meets New York mobster – Tony Soprano with tentacles. Her scheming showpiece, Poor Unfortunate Souls, is a joy." — The Telegraph

 

"Undoubtedly, the clear standout within the supporting cast is McCarthy as Ursula, almost instantly making a case for her to play more villain roles." — Screen Rant

 

"If Bailey is the film’s big discovery, then McCarthy is its no-brainer. Dolled up to look like Divine’s evil-stepsister in her glowing green lair, the comic star’s just delicious as the movie’s deep-sea villain. Her timing is impeccable." — Variety

 

"As sea witch Ursula, Melissa McCarthy is as enrapturing as her tentacles. She reels back some of her signature gross-out schtick and instead goes full drag-queen fabulous in a performance that feels like Drag Race by way of Norma Desmond."  — Entertainment Weekly

 

"The supporting cast, for the most part, is also stellar. Melissa McCarthy takes on her role as the evil sea witch Ursula with wicked glee" — Slash Film

 

"Melissa McCarthy is another standout as baddie Ursula: giving a campy, deliciously evil performance, she owns every sly look and extravagant swish of her bioluminescent tentacles." — Total Film

 

The only person lying has been you, for MONTHS. Get over it. Melissa is unsurprisingly getting heavy praise for her performance in the film. Stfu already. 

"Absolute rave reviews" is misleading and you know it. Yes, Halle is getting "absolute rave reviews." But Melissa's are more mixed, as is evident from the fact that we both posted positive AND negative reviews. And I'm sure more are to come  She was not the person for the role and now the film is going to underperform thanks to her.

[QueenBeyoncé]

China is racist so no shocker there 

[SweetTalker]

On 5/19/2023 at 6:51 PM, Gossip_Boy said:

We all knew this was gonna bomb in China and we know the reason too. It’s not news lol.

Literally. 

[Lovett]

Just now, feelslikeadream said:

"Absolute rave reviews" is misleading and you know it. Yes, Halle is getting "absolute rave reviews." But Melissa's are more mixed, as is evident from the fact that we both posted positive AND negative reviews. And I'm sure more are to come  She was not the person for the role and now the film is going to underperform thanks to her.

No, misleading would be putting "PANNED" in giant letters and then struggling to find four reviews - one of which positively refers to her performance as "commendable".

 

What we love to see is that you have been wrong for MONTHS and the critics are calling out your delusions.  Stay mad, because this film is going to be a huge box office success and Halle and Melissa are getting heavy praise for it. Just like we knew they would.

[FreeXone]

China is colorist I heard. 
 

I personally think the movie looks boring but I think the original little mermaid was too lol 

 

But I bought a ticket and going to support so racist can’t win. 

[starsailor]

It's sad to see it happening, and I fear it won't happen only in China. Here, in Brazil, I don't see this movie building any hype with the audience, even with the marketing pushing it hard on social midia. And, unfortunately, if this movie bombs it's not gonna be exactly a surprise cause the rage was loud since the news about Halle being Ariel. And it's so unfair, cause Halle sings like an angel. Or, in this case, like an actual mermaid. And I bet she did a great job. 
And the nerve to call her ugly. Racism makes me want to puke.

But you can't blame some of the critics about the photography, CGI, the animals with unnexistent charisma ant etc. All of that affect the final product, but "somehow", you know who will be blammed for this possible failure.

The movie debuted with 68% on rotten tomatoes, but atm, is on 71%. Let's hope people allow themselves to watch a diferent version of this classic and be inchanted by Halee.

 

[illia]

We all know why.

[Aethereal]

Maybe Disney should not use so much money in their movies so they could be more independent of foreign markets.

East Asian movies including anime,  only gross several million dollars in the West.  So before you make dog eating jokes it's not like you're supporting their movies either.

 

 

[Fanik]

The blatant racism against chinese or asians in general that runs through this thread is unsettling to say the least. The fact that people somehow think it is okay to piggy back and laugh at the dog comment just further proves how the anti-asian sentiment is widely accepted - all caused by some stupid box office stats. No one would even bat an eye if an asian movie flopped in the west or africa.

Edited May 22, 2023 by Fanik

[Antonini]

It’s so weird seeing everyone in this thread get caught in a tizzy over a bunch of different issues All stemming from Disney movie. Like. It ain’t that serious. 💀

[DoubleRainbow!]

Asian countries are racist af 

[Horizon Flame]

On 5/20/2023 at 2:10 PM, zoldyck said:

Why are we actively making it a racism things.

 

Its not like Americans go all out to support Asian entertainment content, so its okay for westerns to ignore eastern content but if Chinese don't support some western blockbuster they are racist  

Korean and Japanese content is HUGE in the US. Not to mention KPop. What are you talking about?

[arceus]

Mario won 

[zoldyck]

42 minutes ago, Horizon Flame said:

Korean and Japanese content is HUGE in the US. Not to mention KPop. What are you talking about?

Please US radio don't even touch KPop, most of their chart run are sales driven by fan. US audience at large don't touch Kpop.

 

Biggest K-Pop act on Spotify US yesterday:

78. BTS

 

I guess being 78 means supporting, then China is also supporting The Little Mermaid. 

 

[loveisdead9582]

On 5/19/2023 at 8:02 PM, Dr. Alexander said:

Yes, the same country that had their people running out of Black Panther saying their black faces were “scary”.

Wait, what?

[zoldyck]

I don't know why people don't understand simple things.

 

African-American people mostly support movies with African-American cast

Asian people mostly support movies with Asian cast

Caucasian people most support movies with Caucasian cast

 

Same way teenagers enjoy movies about teenagers, gay people about gays etc

 

 

It has nothing to do with racism/xenophobia/homophobia, but audience relates to own race/stories/struggles/culture much easier. Hence Hollywood has recently started to diversify the cast to catch bigger audience. 

[Aethereal]

5 minutes ago, zoldyck said:

I don't know why people don't understand simple things.

 

African-American people mostly support movies with African-American cast

Asian people mostly support movies with Asian cast

Caucasian people most support movies with Caucasian cast

 

Same way teenagers enjoy movies about teenagers, gay people about gays etc

 

 

It has nothing to do with racism/xenophobia/homophobia, but audience relates to own race/stories/struggles/culture much easier. Hence Hollywood has recently started to diversify the cast to catch bigger audience. 

A quick self research shows that China is not THAT supportive of Western movies:

 

The most successful Disney movies like Frozen 2 or TLK remake are in $120M mark.

TLK in UK did nearly $100M compared to China's $125M which is insane considering China has a 10x-13x bigger movie market compared to UK.

Rank	Title	Total gross (¥ RMB)[1]	Country / Region	Year
1	The Battle at Lake Changjin	5.77573 billion	China	2021[2]
2	Wolf Warrior 2	5.68874 billion	China	2017
3	Hi, Mom	5.41330 billion	China	2021
4	Ne Zha	5.03502 billion	China	2019
5	The Wandering Earth	4.68732 billion	China	2019
6	Full River Red	4.54433 billion	China	2023
7	Detective Chinatown 3	4.52235 billion	China	2022
8	Avengers: Endgame	4.25038 billion	United States	2019
9	The Battle at Lake Changjin II	4.07007 billion	China	2022
10	The Wandering Earth 2	4.02842 billion	China	2023
11	Operation Red Sea	3.65251 billion	China, Hong Kong	2018
12	Detective Chinatown 2	3.39769 billion	China	2018
13	The Mermaid	3.39718 billion	China, Hong Kong	2016
14	My People, My Country	3.17639 billion	China, Hong Kong	2019
15	Moon Man	3.10301 billion	China	2022
16	The Eight Hundred	3.10232 billion	China	2020
17	Dying to Survive	3.09996 billion	China	2018
18	The Captain	2.91368 billion	China	2019
19	My People, My Homeland	2.82896 billion	China	2020
20	The Fate of the Furious	2.67096 billion	United States	2017
21	Too Cool to Kill	2.62987 billion	China	2022
22	Hello Mr. Billionaire	2.54757 billion	China	2018
23	Monster Hunt	2.44146 billion	China, Hong Kong	2015
24	Furious 7	2.42659 billion	United States	2015
25	Avengers: Infinity War	2.39054 billion	United States	2018
26	Monster Hunt 2	2.23715 billion	China, Hong Kong	2018
27	Crazy Alien	2.21425 billion	China	2019
28	Never Say Die	2.20175 billion	China	2017
29	Aquaman	2.01320 billion	United States	2018
30	Transformers: Age of Extinction	1.97752 billion	United States	2014
31	The Ex-File 3: The Return of the Exes	1.94174 billion	China	2017
32	Venom	1.87068 billion	United States	2018
33	Kung Fu Yoga	1.75260 billion	China, India	2017
34	Pegasus	1.72937 billion	China	2019
35	Lighting Up the Stars	1.71313 billion	China	2022
36	Avatar (2009 film)	1.71286 billion	United States	2009
37	The Bravest	1.70719 billion	China	2019
38	Avatar: The Way of Water	1.69743 billion	United States	2022
39	Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom	1.69588 billion	United States	2018
40	Mojin: The Lost Legend	1.68274 billion	China	2015
41	Journey to the West: The Demons Strike Back	1.65593 billion	China, Hong Kong	2017
42	Lost in Hong Kong	1.61410 billion	China	2015
43	Jiang Ziya	1.60298 billion	China	2020
44	Home Coming	1.59315 billion	China	2022
45	Better Days	1.55903 billion	China	2019
46	Transformers: The Last Knight	1.55124 billion	United States	2017
47	Zootopia	1.53453 billion	United States	2016
48	Boonie Bears:Guardian Code	1.49515 billion	China	2023
49	My Country, My Parents	1.47733 billion	China	2021
50	Warcraft	1.47230 billion	United States	2016

 

Chinese title	English title	Year	Admissions (est. ticket sales)	Country / Region	Ref
白蛇传 (Bai she zhuan)	Legend of the White Snake	1980	700,000,000	China	[3][4]
喜盈門 (Xi ying men)	In-Laws / Full House of Joy [zh]	1981	650,000,000	China	[5][6]
武当 (Wudang)	Wudang / The Undaunted Wudang	1983	610,000,000	China	[5]
保密局的槍聲 (Bao mi ju de qiang sheng)	Gunshots in the CIB	1979	600,000,000	China	[7][8]
405谋杀案 (405 mou sha an)	Murder in 405 [zh]	1980	600,000,000	China	[7]
少林寺弟子 (Shao lin si di zi)	The Disciple of the Shaolin Temple / Shaolin Brothers	1983	520,000,000	China, Hong Kong	[5]
少林寺 (Shao lin si)	Shaolin Temple	1982	500,000,000	China, Hong Kong	[4][7]
七品芝麻官 (Qi pin zhi ma guan)	Sesame Official [zh]	1980	500,000,000	China	[3]
武林志 (Wu lin zhi)	Deadly Fury / Pride's Deadly Fury	1984	500,000,000	China	[5]
从奴隶到将军 (Cong Nu Li Dao Jiang Jun)	Cong Nu Li Dao Jiang Jun	1979	470,000,000	China	[5]
西安事变 (Xi'an shi bian)	The Xi'an Incident	1981	450,000,000	China	[5]
神秘的大佛 (Shen mi de da fo)	Mysterious Buddha	1980	400,000,000	China	[7][9]
吉鸿昌 (Ji Hongchang)	Ji Hongchang	1979	380,000,000	China	[5]
追捕 (Zhuībǔ)	Kimi yo Fundo no Kawa o Watare / Manhunt	1978	330,000,000+	Japan	[10]
开枪，为他送行 (Kai Qiang, Wei Ta Song Xing)	Kai Qiang, Wei Ta Song Xing [zh]	1982	330,000,000	China	[5]
地道战 (Dì dào zhàn)	Tunnel War	1965	300,000,000+	China	[11]
大篷车 (Dà péngchē)	Caravan	1979	300,000,000	India	[12]
杜十娘 (Du Shiniang)	Du Shiniang	1981	260,000,000	China	[5]
佩剑将军 (Pei jian jiang jun)	A General Wearing the Sword	1983	260,000,000	China	[5]
自古英雄出少年 (Zi gu ying xiong chu shao nian)	Little Heroes / Young Heroes	1983	260,000,000	China, Hong Kong	[13]
火烧圆明园 (Huo shao yuan ming yuan)	The Burning of Imperial Palace	1983	240,000,000	China, Hong Kong	[5]
木棉袈裟 (Mui mien ka sha)	Holy Robe of the Shaolin Temple	1985	200,000,000	Hong Kong	[14]
飞来的女婿 (Fei lai de nü xu)	Son-in-Law Flew Out of Nowhere	1982	199,500,000	China	[13]
蓝盾保险箱 (Lan dun bao xian xiang)	Blue Shield Safe	1983	170,000,000	China	[13]
少年犯 (Shao nian fan)	Juvenile Delinquents / Innocent Teenagers	1985	161,000,000	China, Hong Kong	[15][16]
战狼2 (Zhan lang 2)	Wolf Warrior 2	2017	160,000,000	China	[17]
庐山恋 (Lúshān Liàn)	Romance on Lushan Mountain	1980	140,000,000+	China	[18]
哪吒之魔童降世 (Nézhā zhī Mótóng Jiàngshì)	Ne Zha	2019	140,000,000	China	[19]
少林小子 (Shao lin xiao zi)	Shaolin Temple 2: Kids from Shaolin	1984	140,000,000	China, Hong Kong
特殊身份的警官 (Tèshū shēnfèn de jǐngguān)	A Policeman with a Special Identity	1982	130,000,000	China	[13]
长津湖 (Chang jin hu)	The Battle at Lake Changjin	2021	125,000,000	China	[20]

[zoldyck]

3 minutes ago, Aristotle said:

 

TLK in UK did nearly $100M compared to China's $125M which is insane considering China has a 10x-13x bigger movie market compared to UK.

Rank	Title	Total gross (¥ RMB)[1]	Country / Region	Year
1	The Battle at Lake Changjin	5.77573 billion	China	2021[2]
2	Wolf Warrior 2	5.68874 billion	China	2017
3	Hi, Mom	5.41330 billion	China	2021
4	Ne Zha	5.03502 billion	China	2019
5	The Wandering Earth	4.68732 billion	China	2019
6	Full River Red	4.54433 billion	China	2023
7	Detective Chinatown 3	4.52235 billion	China	2022
8	Avengers: Endgame	4.25038 billion	United States	2019
9	The Battle at Lake Changjin II	4.07007 billion	China	2022
10	The Wandering Earth 2	4.02842 billion	China	2023
11	Operation Red Sea	3.65251 billion	China, Hong Kong	2018
12	Detective Chinatown 2	3.39769 billion	China	2018
13	The Mermaid	3.39718 billion	China, Hong Kong	2016
14	My People, My Country	3.17639 billion	China, Hong Kong	2019
15	Moon Man	3.10301 billion	China	2022
16	The Eight Hundred	3.10232 billion	China	2020
17	Dying to Survive	3.09996 billion	China	2018
18	The Captain	2.91368 billion	China	2019
19	My People, My Homeland	2.82896 billion	China	2020
20	The Fate of the Furious	2.67096 billion	United States	2017
21	Too Cool to Kill	2.62987 billion	China	2022
22	Hello Mr. Billionaire	2.54757 billion	China	2018
23	Monster Hunt	2.44146 billion	China, Hong Kong	2015
24	Furious 7	2.42659 billion	United States	2015
25	Avengers: Infinity War	2.39054 billion	United States	2018
26	Monster Hunt 2	2.23715 billion	China, Hong Kong	2018
27	Crazy Alien	2.21425 billion	China	2019
28	Never Say Die	2.20175 billion	China	2017
29	Aquaman	2.01320 billion	United States	2018
30	Transformers: Age of Extinction	1.97752 billion	United States	2014
31	The Ex-File 3: The Return of the Exes	1.94174 billion	China	2017
32	Venom	1.87068 billion	United States	2018
33	Kung Fu Yoga	1.75260 billion	China, India	2017
34	Pegasus	1.72937 billion	China	2019
35	Lighting Up the Stars	1.71313 billion	China	2022
36	Avatar (2009 film)	1.71286 billion	United States	2009
37	The Bravest	1.70719 billion	China	2019
38	Avatar: The Way of Water	1.69743 billion	United States	2022
39	Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom	1.69588 billion	United States	2018
40	Mojin: The Lost Legend	1.68274 billion	China	2015
41	Journey to the West: The Demons Strike Back	1.65593 billion	China, Hong Kong	2017
42	Lost in Hong Kong	1.61410 billion	China	2015
43	Jiang Ziya	1.60298 billion	China	2020
44	Home Coming	1.59315 billion	China	2022
45	Better Days	1.55903 billion	China	2019
46	Transformers: The Last Knight	1.55124 billion	United States	2017
47	Zootopia	1.53453 billion	United States	2016
48	Boonie Bears:Guardian Code	1.49515 billion	China	2023
49	My Country, My Parents	1.47733 billion	China	2021
50	Warcraft	1.47230 billion	United States	2016

 

Chinese title	English title	Year	Admissions (est. ticket sales)	Country / Region	Ref
白蛇传 (Bai she zhuan)	Legend of the White Snake	1980	700,000,000	China	[3][4]
喜盈門 (Xi ying men)	In-Laws / Full House of Joy [zh]	1981	650,000,000	China	[5][6]
武当 (Wudang)	Wudang / The Undaunted Wudang	1983	610,000,000	China	[5]
保密局的槍聲 (Bao mi ju de qiang sheng)	Gunshots in the CIB	1979	600,000,000	China	[7][8]
405谋杀案 (405 mou sha an)	Murder in 405 [zh]	1980	600,000,000	China	[7]
少林寺弟子 (Shao lin si di zi)	The Disciple of the Shaolin Temple / Shaolin Brothers	1983	520,000,000	China, Hong Kong	[5]
少林寺 (Shao lin si)	Shaolin Temple	1982	500,000,000	China, Hong Kong	[4][7]
七品芝麻官 (Qi pin zhi ma guan)	Sesame Official [zh]	1980	500,000,000	China	[3]
武林志 (Wu lin zhi)	Deadly Fury / Pride's Deadly Fury	1984	500,000,000	China	[5]
从奴隶到将军 (Cong Nu Li Dao Jiang Jun)	Cong Nu Li Dao Jiang Jun	1979	470,000,000	China	[5]
西安事变 (Xi'an shi bian)	The Xi'an Incident	1981	450,000,000	China	[5]
神秘的大佛 (Shen mi de da fo)	Mysterious Buddha	1980	400,000,000	China	[7][9]
吉鸿昌 (Ji Hongchang)	Ji Hongchang	1979	380,000,000	China	[5]
追捕 (Zhuībǔ)	Kimi yo Fundo no Kawa o Watare / Manhunt	1978	330,000,000+	Japan	[10]
开枪，为他送行 (Kai Qiang, Wei Ta Song Xing)	Kai Qiang, Wei Ta Song Xing [zh]	1982	330,000,000	China	[5]
地道战 (Dì dào zhàn)	Tunnel War	1965	300,000,000+	China	[11]
大篷车 (Dà péngchē)	Caravan	1979	300,000,000	India	[12]
杜十娘 (Du Shiniang)	Du Shiniang	1981	260,000,000	China	[5]
佩剑将军 (Pei jian jiang jun)	A General Wearing the Sword	1983	260,000,000	China	[5]
自古英雄出少年 (Zi gu ying xiong chu shao nian)	Little Heroes / Young Heroes	1983	260,000,000	China, Hong Kong	[13]
火烧圆明园 (Huo shao yuan ming yuan)	The Burning of Imperial Palace	1983	240,000,000	China, Hong Kong	[5]
木棉袈裟 (Mui mien ka sha)	Holy Robe of the Shaolin Temple	1985	200,000,000	Hong Kong	[14]
飞来的女婿 (Fei lai de nü xu)	Son-in-Law Flew Out of Nowhere	1982	199,500,000	China	[13]
蓝盾保险箱 (Lan dun bao xian xiang)	Blue Shield Safe	1983	170,000,000	China	[13]
少年犯 (Shao nian fan)	Juvenile Delinquents / Innocent Teenagers	1985	161,000,000	China, Hong Kong	[15][16]
战狼2 (Zhan lang 2)	Wolf Warrior 2	2017	160,000,000	China	[17]
庐山恋 (Lúshān Liàn)	Romance on Lushan Mountain	1980	140,000,000+	China	[18]
哪吒之魔童降世 (Nézhā zhī Mótóng Jiàngshì)	Ne Zha	2019	140,000,000	China	[19]
少林小子 (Shao lin xiao zi)	Shaolin Temple 2: Kids from Shaolin	1984	140,000,000	China, Hong Kong
特殊身份的警官 (Tèshū shēnfèn de jǐngguān)	A Policeman with a Special Identity	1982	130,000,000	China	[13]
长津湖 (Chang jin hu)	The Battle at Lake Changjin	2021	125,000,000	China	[20]

And how many Chinese movies have grossed over 100M in US? 

[Aethereal]

1 minute ago, zoldyck said:

And how many Chinese movies have grossed over 100M in US? 

Only 1.

I was making a comparison not in a bad way. They can consume what they want to consume. 

[zoldyck]

3 minutes ago, Aristotle said:

Only 1.

I was making a comparison not in a bad way. They can consume what they want to consume. 

Yes, I know. I am just saying people support content of their own country/race/age more than foreign. Not a pattern exclusive to China or Asian countries.  

[sourprint]

couldnt care less abt that, still gonna watch it

 

and btw ppl have different tastes... besides the reason of it flopping most likely being racism cause they hate black people

 

its gonna eat so badly tbh 

[rp662]

57 minutes ago, Aristotle said:

A quick self research shows that China is not THAT supportive of Western movies:

And why is that? 

 

The Chinese government has quotas on how many Hollywood movies are released in any given year. The Marvel movies were banned up until this year. The way American movies would succeed without the blatant suppression. And let’s not forget their censorship.