poll Bigger career: Taylor Swift or Britney Spears?

[Richie]

2 minutes ago, perfillusion said:

 

 

 

In fact Brit Spears doesn't even have a single tour over 150M

Read a book gargoyle 

With today’s inflation the Circus Tour grossed $194,000,000 USD

 

 

 

 

[R. Ramirez]

I would prefer a thousand times to be a BEAUTIFUL, YOUTH LOOKING, 3x AOTY & Emmy Award winner rather than a media punching ball who's been ridiculed by the entire music industry.

 

True legends are recognized through their respect, hard work AND AWARDS.

 

 

 

 

[Richie]

6 minutes ago, brazil said:

The way you and that Ramires guy knows details of 2011 releases from an artist you dislike/hate is pretty embarassing lol. 

In real life they love Britney but they love to argue with people online.

[Josh]

1 minute ago, R. Ramirez said:

I would prefer a thousand times to be a BEAUTIFUL, YOUTH LOOKING, 3x AOTY & Emmy Award winner rather than a media punching ball who's been ridiculed by the entire music industry.

 

True legends are recognized through their respect, hard work AND AWARDS.

 

 

 

 

[Bey_Rihstan]

How’s this a competition? Taylor has bigger hits, bigger albums, more longevity, far bigger tours, worth more etc she’s even a bigger actress and her acting career is hardly anything special. 
 

Britney doesn’t compete in any measurable field how is this 9 pages 

Edited April 16, 2023 by Bey_Rihstan

[Dolce Vita]

the set up

[brazil]

2 minutes ago, Bey_Rihstan said:

How’s this a competition? Taylor has bigger hits, bigger albums, more longevity, far bigger tours, worth more etc she’s even a bigger actress and her acting career is hardly anything special. 
 

Britney doesn’t compete in any measurable field how is this 9 pages 

She objectively don't!

[Richie]

1 minute ago, R. Ramirez said:

I would prefer a thousand times to be a BEAUTIFUL, YOUTH LOOKING,

 

I don’t think you do just by looking at your avi tbh. How about we start practicing what we preach? 

 

 

[R. Ramirez]

27 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

Britney was at her creative peak by the time she got placed into the conservatorship. She was heavily involved in the process of making 'Britney', 'In The Zone', and 'Blackout'. Moreover, the period between 2003-2007 was when she exercised her creative expression most liberally and we literally got her best efforts at this time alongside the mysterious project, Original Doll. Unfortunately, she really took a stepback with her succeeding records (as much as I adore 'Circus' and 'Femme Fatale') but bounced back with Glory. If anything, Glory gives at least a glimpse into what Britney's artistry would've been like had it not been for the guardianship. 

She just co-wrote one song on Blackout and three from Self-Titled era. She is one of the least committed artists in her music. 

[moo]

3 minutes ago, Josh said:

The desperation. You just know an OTH has completely lost the argument when they resort to posting that pic. Is this Poe's Law (Taylor's Version)?

[FENTY.]

Britney had a bigger peak, but overall career it’s obv Taylor 

[SwiftLover]

6 minutes ago, Josh said:

Literally what does this prove?  Nothing.

 

there are a SLEW of pictures we could dig up of Britney spears PUBLICLY HUMILIATING herself but some of us have more class & respect than that. Keep it cute, stop grasping at straws and go brush your teeth.

[americanshameless]

5 hours ago, Josh said:

and a Swiftie having the audacity to say that Britneys career is more tabloid fodder when Taylors entire career is about every twink she dates and breaks up with or dumped by

 

12 minutes ago, Josh said:

Yo 

[Jessie]

1 minute ago, Axelios said:

If you say so

https://youtu.be/JwQiu5YJZzY

Idol culture in Japan is different and well done for Taylor for having some of that in 2014. Harry still had by far the bigger, more rabid stan base especially at the time thanks to One Direction and more tabloid interest.  
 

Harry needing to date an ‘eons’ more famous Taylor when there was an army of tweens writing fan fiction about him daily whether he liked it or not is beyond revisionism, and something Taylor was actively trying to further cultivate with her own YA relationship obsessed devotees. There was a reason she tried to push the Styles narrative with I Knew You Were Trouble when it was one of her first big pop singles, which especially helped her in the UK market 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2295072/amp/Taylor-Swift-reveals-hit-song-I-Knew-You-Were-Trouble-written-ex-boyfriend-Harry-Styles.html

 

 

[R. Ramirez]

54 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

You're comparing Gaga's 4th album, and 3rd albums with Britney's 9th and 8th albums? We'll have to wait for a few more years to see how Gaga's 8th and 9th records perform to even consider such a comparison  

Also, you've got to be joking about that comparison between BM and HMC, considering BMC is a 2011 track. It had many years to accumulate streams and with its viral push, crossed over 300 million streams. So the fact that HMC has 235 million streams, despite not having as strong of a viral moment and being a new single is actually impressive. Thank you for proving my point

You can believe that "irrelevancy" lie as much as you want ig, since I'm not bothered enough to run through all that for the 300th time  

 

 

I'm comparing releases FROM THE SAME YEAR, which makes perfect sense since that's how Billboard conducts its annual charts. Gaga's career did not exist in the early 2000s, and just as we do not know how she will be by her 8th or 9th album, we do not know how she would have performed in 2000-2008.

 

Bloody Mary was released as a SINGLE by the end of 2022. Before that it was just a track (I see you're copying Eternium's arguments), an album track from 2011 could never have accumulated big streams before it became a single.

 

You could remove the streams that Bloody Mary had before becoming a single and it would STILL be above the single HEAVILY assisted by Elton John.

 

Spotify (04/14):

 

Bloody Mary - 947,065

Hold Me Closer - 581,587

 

 

Edited April 16, 2023 by R. Ramirez

[Bey_Rihstan]

8 minutes ago, brazil said:

She objectively don't!

In terms of quantity? She absolutely does. Britney has what… 4 albums that matter relative to the time period? Taylor has at least twice that

 

and grossed more at the box office. So objectively? Taylor wins 

[Axelios]

2 minutes ago, Jessie said:

Idol culture in Japan is different and well done for Taylor for having some of that in 2014. Harry still had by far the bigger, more rabid stan base especially at the time thanks to One Direction and more tabloid interest.  
 

Harry needing to date an ‘eons’ more famous Taylor when there was an army of tweens writing fan fiction about him daily whether he liked it or not is beyond revisionism, and something Taylor was actively trying to further cultivate with her own YA relationship obsessed devotees. There was a reason she tried to push the Styles narrative with I Knew You Were Trouble when it was one of her first big pop singles, which especially helped her in the UK market 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2295072/amp/Taylor-Swift-reveals-hit-song-I-Knew-You-Were-Trouble-written-ex-boyfriend-Harry-Styles.html

 

 

And One Direction even at their shortlived peak had less commercial success than Taylor in terms of music. So I guess she really doesn't need that to succeed.

[Enrique523]

I can't at some Britney fans giving all the credit for Hold Me Closer's performance to Britney only 

[hausofbryan]

Taylor Swift is infinitely more massive in almost every measure. You could always argue about “cultural impact” or being more “global,” but.. It’s not really even a competition in the end.

[brazil]

1 minute ago, Bey_Rihstan said:

In terms of quantity? She absolutely does. Britney has what… 4 albums that matter relative to the time period? Taylor has at least twice that

 

and grossed more at the box office. So objectively? Taylor wins 

Yeah, as a whole, but you comment seamed to imply that Taylor biggest album and single was bigger than Britney's

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Axelios said:

And One Direction even at their shortlived peak had less commercial success than Taylor in terms of music. So I guess she really doesn't need that to succeed.

Exactly. I always found so disturbing the way people want to discredit Taylor by saying she's somehow only famous because of men, it's so gross and blatantly misogynistic 

 

You can dislike Taylor all you want but let's not go into blatant misogyny.

[Jessie]

Just now, Axelios said:

And One Direction even at their shortlived peak had less commercial success than Taylor in terms of music. So I guess she really doesn't need that to succeed.

Sure Jan  

[kudmips7890]

6 minutes ago, R. Ramirez said:

 

You could remove the streams that Bloody Mary had before becoming a single and it would STILL be above the single HEAVILY assisted by Elton John.

 

The same Elton John who JUST came off of Cold Heart, a much better and bigger track! 

 

HMC owes its "success" to Cold Heart 

[SharonStone]

23 minutes ago, Josh said:

Is that real? 

[Josh]

4 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

Exactly. I always found so disturbing the way people want to discredit Taylor by saying she's somehow only famous because of men, it's so gross and blatantly misogynistic 

 

You can dislike Taylor all you want but let's not go into blatant misogyny.

You Swifties literally called Britney tabloid fodder when Taylor is tabloid fodder too