poll Bigger career: Taylor Swift or Britney Spears?

[Aethereal]

Taylor. Whatever doubts there might've been about this answer, they got erased by the Midnight era.

Edited April 16, 2023 by Aristotle

[The Music Industry]

In terms of commercial success, critical acclaim, tour gross, awards: Taylor Swift

 

In terms of how many TMZ articles they have written about them: Britney Spears

[StonedSoulPicnic]

The numbers are in Taylor's favor. Britney has a bigger cultural influence.

[Josh]

Just now, StonedSoulPicnic said:

The numbers are in Taylor's favor. Britney has a bigger cultural influence.

and came out in a time when streaming wasn't like it is today

[R. Ramirez]

1 hour ago, Rihannito said:

Britney’s career is still unmatched and her pure album sales are still bigger than Taylor’s. Taylor has the upper hand now with streaming.

 

People also forget to mention that Taylor is America’s sweetheart and is well preceived there whereas Britney was regarded as a ***** for most of her career and still moved those units which is remarkable on its own, Taylor had the media and gp by her side since the Kanye drama, she had some down moments but could easily ovecome them.

 

Girlie, Britney peaked in the early 00s, the PHYSICAL ERA whereas Taylor peaked in the 10s, the DIGITAL ERA. Physical sales were 2x bigger during Britney's prime. That's why she has more pure sales.

 

Taylor ALWAYS makes the IFPI lists for her albums, Midnights was the third best-selling album of 2022... When was the last time Britney had a top 10 placement for one of her records on IFPI's listings? That was in 2003 with In The Zone. The truth is that she hasn't been a great seller since 2003, TWO DECADES AGO. 

 

The last part is hilarious though as Britney has ZERO merit on her success, artistic integrity and she's always played safe, a true label puppet. Her career has always relied on sex appeal and being a white but less talented version of Janet Jackson.

 

The good sis can't sing, write, perform, act....

 

We've all seen when she got too old for those ridiculous gimmicks (circa Femme Fatale era) and when she lost her beauty, she started flopping and all her fans let her go. 

 

Edited April 16, 2023 by R. Ramirez

[Into The Void]

17 minutes ago, Norte said:

3, TTWE and HIAM success? 

3 and HIAM were #1s and TTWE was a top 5 hit was it not?

[perfillusion]

The Spears stans making it about Gaga, crying that sales don't matter, then posting about Gaga's sales in here when it's completely off topic She lives rent free in their minds. 
 

The answer's Taylor.

[Josh]

1 minute ago, perfillusion said:

The Spears stans making it about Gaga, crying that sales don't matter, then posting about Gaga's sales in here when it's completely off topic She lives rent free in their minds. 
 

The answer's Taylor.

like Gaga stans don't go off topic 

[gustavothehuman]

Y'all will deny this to death but Taylor is on her way to become a legend, Britney has her legacy but she is too much of her time.

[R. Ramirez]

10 minutes ago, Insanity said:

3 and HIAM were #1s and TTWE was a top 5 hit was it not?

HIAM was definitely NOT a success. The song sold 1,6M digital downloads in the United States, which is tragic for a 2011 song.

 

Let's not even talk about the streams of this song. 

 

TTWE & 3 just did decently... They're 3x-4x platinum ELIGIBLE (not even certified) after 12 years of units accumulation. Nothing to glorify. 

Edited April 16, 2023 by R. Ramirez

[burninredhot]

4 hours ago, Josh said:

Like Taylor's entire career isn't based on who she dates shes more of a tabloid fodder than Britney 

Uhm no. Maybe in 2012 but she's been private about her life since 2016 and she's still remained consistent, infact she's more respected than she ever was right now 

[wehavetostan]

Taylor obviously 

[Josh]

1 minute ago, burninredhot said:

Uhm no. Maybe in 2012 but she's been private about her life since 2016 and she's still remained consistent, infact she's more respected than she ever was right now 

people are still speculating what songs are about Joe 

[Blackout2006]

31 minutes ago, R. Ramirez said:

 

Gaga's career NEVER, EVER hit the skids like Britney's. Last year she was just named the Top Female Touring Act. Your fav is IRRELEVANT as HELL.

 

A graphic from a blog made by a fan who cannot afford an ad-free interface is not credible. Even with that, it continues to prove my point: 

 

2016 releases:

 

Joanne - 3,384,000 sales worldwide (#1 album, 49 weeks on charts, platinum)

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BARRIER

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Glory - 1,072,000 sales worldwide (#3 album, 8 weeks on charts, not even gold...)

 

2013 releases:

 

ARTPOP - 4,733,000 sales worldwide (#1 album, 29 weeks on chart, platinum)

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BARRIER

===============

Britney Jean - 1,573,000 sales worldwide album (#4 album, 11 weeks on chart, barely gold)

 

Bonus 2022 singles on Spotify:

 

Bloody Mary - 300M

Hold Me Closer - 235M

 

You're comparing Gaga's 4th album, and 3rd albums with Britney's 9th and 8th albums? We'll have to wait for a few more years to see how Gaga's 8th and 9th records perform to even consider such a comparison  

Also, you've got to be joking about that comparison between BM and HMC, considering BMC is a 2011 track. It had many years to accumulate streams and with its viral push, crossed over 300 million streams. So the fact that HMC has 235 million streams, despite not having as strong of a viral moment and being a new single is actually impressive. Thank you for proving my point

You can believe that "irrelevancy" lie as much as you want ig, since I'm not bothered enough to run through all that for the 300th time  

[Norte]

9 minutes ago, Insanity said:

3 and HIAM were #1s and TTWE was a top 5 hit was it not?

Yeah cute peaks but they struggle doing decent numbers (41k, 19k and 59k on Spotify) maybe in 45 years HIAM can finally cross 1.7M. Probably Taylor has bigger units with album tracks and is currently outstreaming them  

[Rihannito]

43 minutes ago, R. Ramirez said:

 

Gaga's career NEVER, EVER hit the skids like Britney's. Last year she was just named the Top Female Touring Act. Your fav is IRRELEVANT as HELL.

 

A graphic from a blog made by a fan who cannot afford an ad-free interface is not credible. Even with that, it continues to prove my point: 

 

2016 releases:

 

Joanne - 3,384,000 sales worldwide (#1 album, 49 weeks on charts, platinum)

===============

BARRIER

===============

Glory - 1,072,000 sales worldwide (#3 album, 8 weeks on charts, not even gold...)

 

2013 releases:

 

ARTPOP - 4,733,000 sales worldwide (#1 album, 29 weeks on chart, platinum)

===============

BARRIER

===============

Britney Jean - 1,573,000 sales worldwide album (#4 album, 11 weeks on chart, barely gold)

 

Bonus 2022 singles on Spotify:

 

Bloody Mary - 300M

Hold Me Closer - 235M

 

#1 touring act with 100 millions? Groundbreaking! 
 

Ow …and i love your 2013/2016 releases statistics effort but you forgot to mention that Artpop was Gaga’s third and Britney Jean was Britney’s 8th studio album. It would have been nicer if you could compare Artpop sales to Britney the album. What about also comparing ITZ to Joanne? wouldn’t that been funnier and more exciting? But i guess , it doesn’t go with your narrative.

 

These liddos trying their hardest to make Gaga’s musical career sound more impressive but the math is not mathing. BOMT alone sold more than Gaga’s entire catalogue in pure sales.

Edited April 16, 2023 by Rihannito

[burninredhot]

3 minutes ago, Josh said:

people are still speculating what songs are about Joe 

That's her fan making theories, how is it tabloid fodder 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, R. Ramirez said:

 

Girlie, Britney peaked in the early 00s, the PHYSICAL ERA whereas Taylor peaked in the 10s, the DIGITAL ERA. Physical sales were 2x bigger during Britney's prime. That's why she has more pure sales.

 

Taylor ALWAYS makes the IFPI lists for her albums, Midnights was the third best-selling album of 2022... When was the last time Britney had a top 10 placement for one of her records on IFPI's listings? That was in 2003 with In The Zone. The truth is that she hasn't been a great seller since 2003, TWO DECADES AGO. 

 

The last part is hilarious though as Britney has ZERO merit on her success, artistic integrity and she's always played safe, a true label puppet. Her career has always relied on sex appeal and being a white but less talented version of Janet Jackson.

 

The good sis can't sing, write, perform, act....

 

We've all seen when she got too old for those ridiculous gimmicks (circa Femme Fatale era) and when she lost her beauty, she started flopping and all her fans let her go. 

 

Wow, you went IN 

[State of Grace.]

Only gays living in 2004 will tell you it's Britney. Taylor is bigger than any pop girl not named Madonna.

 

The knees deflecting to Gaga here as if she hasn't also passed their fave

[Into The Void]

42 minutes ago, R. Ramirez said:

 

Gaga's career NEVER, EVER hit the skids like Britney's. Last year she was just named the Top Female Touring Act. Your fav is IRRELEVANT as HELL.

 

A graphic from a blog made by a fan who cannot afford an ad-free interface is not credible. Even with that, it continues to prove my point: 

 

2016 releases:

 

Joanne - 3,384,000 sales worldwide (#1 album, 49 weeks on charts, platinum)

===============

BARRIER

===============

Glory - 1,072,000 sales worldwide (#3 album, 8 weeks on charts, not even gold...)

 

2013 releases:

 

ARTPOP - 4,733,000 sales worldwide (#1 album, 29 weeks on chart, platinum)

===============

BARRIER

===============

Britney Jean - 1,573,000 sales worldwide album (#4 album, 11 weeks on chart, barely gold)

 

Bonus 2022 singles on Spotify:

 

Bloody Mary - 300M

Hold Me Closer - 235M

 

People seem to forget during these flop eras Britney also had 0 control of her life 0 input they made an album without her vocals even on it. Taylor was never in an abusive conservatorship. We dont know what Britney career could have been like because of what happened to her.

[Blackout2006]

2 hours ago, Enrique523 said:

Yeah, i've always felt that Britney is very much a nostalgia act that gets overhyped by ATRL for some reason. Yeah she had a big peak, no doubt about that, but nobody in the GP actually remembers her first two albums outside of the big singles, they aged pretty poorly.

Overhyped? Every thread that mentions Britney at the slightest gets squandered by OBHs stomping in, feeling the need to insert their opinion into everything about her despite saying they don't like or care about her  

[Into The Void]

2 minutes ago, Norte said:

Yeah cute peaks but they struggle doing decent numbers (41k, 19k and 59k on Spotify) maybe in 45 years HIAM can finally cross 1.7M. Probably Taylor has bigger units with album tracks and is currently outstreaming them  

I made a thread yesterday and people said recurrent streams don't matter u should check it out.

[Josh]

2 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

Only gays living in 2004 will tell you it's Britney. Taylor is bigger than any pop girl not named Madonna.

 

The knees deflecting to Gaga here as if she hasn't also passed their fave

Taylors successful then why dont Swifties ever make threads comparing her to Beyonce her actual peer and instead compare her to Britney someone who gives zero craps about her career

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Blackout2006 said:

Overhyped? Every thread that mentions Britney at the slightest gets squandered by OBHs stomping in, feeling the need to insert their opinion into everything about her despite saying they don't like or care about her  

Yes, overhyped. The fact that a woman who can't sing, can't write her own songs, lip-sync all the time... is described as being such a legend and one of the best pop stars ever IS the definition of overhype 

 

 

[Blackout2006]

Just now, Insanity said:

People seem to forget during these flop eras Britney also had 0 control of her life 0 input they made an album without her vocals even on it. Taylor was never in an abusive conservatorship. We dont know what Britney career could have been like because of what happened to her.

Britney was at her creative peak by the time she got placed into the conservatorship. She was heavily involved in the process of making 'Britney', 'In The Zone', and 'Blackout'. Moreover, the period between 2003-2007 was when she exercised her creative expression most liberally and we literally got her best efforts at this time alongside the mysterious project, Original Doll. Unfortunately, she really took a stepback with her succeeding records (as much as I adore 'Circus' and 'Femme Fatale') but bounced back with Glory. If anything, Glory gives at least a glimpse into what Britney's artistry would've been like had it not been for the guardianship.