poll Bigger career: Taylor Swift or Britney Spears?

[TheHiveMind]

20 minutes ago, Intuition said:

 

This is delusion and nostalgia talking. 

Taylor had several eras that were bigger than Britney's peak in the US and yes 1989 was not only bigger in the US than BOMT, but also Australia, UK, Japan, Canada, etc.

She was everywhere in the 1989 era and there was nobody who was even close to as big as she was.

Britney was never the top artist, there was always acts who were bigger at the same time. 

Contrary to popular belief, Taylor was also not only an act for kids like Britney was at her peak, which is how she's managed to stay on top for 17 years. 
Britney's "impact" was regulated to the MTV watching 1980s- early 90s born generation. 

 

Taylor Swift is more successful however no Taylor era has had a song/video as big as BOMT. 

[Trent W]

20 minutes ago, Intuition said:

 

This is delusion and nostalgia talking. 

Taylor had several eras that were bigger than Britney's peak in the US and yes 1989 was not only bigger in the US than BOMT, but also Australia, UK, Japan, Canada, etc.

She was everywhere in the 1989 era and there was nobody who was even close to as big as she was.

Britney was never the top artist, there was always acts who were bigger at the same time. 

Contrary to popular belief, Taylor was also not only an act for kids like Britney was at her peak, which is how she's managed to stay on top for 17 years. 
Britney's "impact" was regulated to the MTV watching 1980s- early 90s born generation. 

 

Everything you posted was a literal lie

 

Taylor has never been as big as Britney was in her prime.

 

Not even in hard numbers, 1989 is smaller than Oops and BOMT, this isn’t even up for debate.

 

Taylor’s biggest album 1989 was completely overshadowed by 25 in the same year gap. Is not really a good point to bring up.

 

And don’t even try to say Britney was a kid’s act when Taylor released ME! as the first single of her SEVENTH ALBUM  

 

[Prism]

Britney Spears is iconic because she is one of the most successful pop stars of all time. She has sold millions of albums and has won numerous awards throughout her career. Her music and performances have influenced many other artists and have helped to shape the pop music industry. She has also had a significant impact on popular culture, and her image and style have become synonymous with the late '90s and early 2000s.

[Intuition]

Just now, Trent W said:

Everything you posted was a literal lie

 

Taylor has never been as big as Britney was in her prime.

 

Not even in hard numbers, 1989 is smaller than Oops and BOMT, this isn’t even up for debate.

 

Taylor’s biggest album 1989 was completely overshadowed by 25 in the same year gap. Is not really a good point to bring up.

 

And don’t even try to say Britney was a kid’s act when Taylor released ME! as the first single of her SEVENTH ALBUM  

 

Let's compare year-end charts, shall we?
1989 (2014-2015) & BOMT (1999-2000)

US, #1 vs. #2

AUS, #2 vs #7

UK, #6 vs #14

Japan, #30 vs #85

Canada, #1 vs #2

New Zealand, #4 vs #15

1989 was also the second-best selling album of the entire decade of the 2010s and is the #5 biggest female album of all time according to Billboard, which gives Taylor 3 bigger albums than BOMT in the US (which ranks at #16).

Also, 1989 was Taylor's sixth album and not an anomaly, she's had monstrous success before and after.

Very few female artists have peaks bigger than Taylor and Britney is unfortunately not one of them.

 

[FightDragonsWithMe]

Britney's "impact" was being a child star lolita, walking around with a snake, faking bisexuality with Madonna & X plus her 06/07 umbrella/head shaving incident. Like I'd rather be relevant for my music than be a "cultural phenomenon" if it means people recognize me for my talent vs being a tragic woman with no artistic merit or relevance past 2004. 

Edited April 18, 2023 by FightDragonsWithMe

[FightDragonsWithMe]

Britney is going to be remembered as a Lindsay Lohan, Amanda Bynes or Paris Hilton type that's it. 

[Trent W]

15 minutes ago, Intuition said:

Let's compare year-end charts, shall we?
1989 (2014-2015) & BOMT (1999-2000)

US, #1 vs. #2

AUS, #2 vs #7

UK, #6 vs #14

Japan, #30 vs #85

Canada, #1 vs #2

New Zealand, #4 vs #15

1989 was also the second-best selling album of the entire decade of the 2010s and is the #5 biggest female album of all time according to Billboard, which gives Taylor 3 bigger albums than BOMT in the US (which ranks at #16).

Also, 1989 was Taylor's sixth album and not an anomaly, she's had monstrous success before and after.

Very few female artists have peaks bigger than Taylor and Britney is unfortunately not one of them.

 

YEC don’t mean **** , the time split and the competition of each one doesn’t mean ****.

 

1989 is nowhere near as big as BOMT not on any metric. Is not up for debate.

 

And also 1989 was the third biggest album of the 2010s.

 
21 & 25 destroyed it.

 

 

[Trent W]

15 minutes ago, FightDragonsWithMe said:

Britney is going to be remembered as a Lindsay Lohan, Amanda Bynes or Paris Hilton type that's it. 

Britney had more impact than all of the 00s girls, Beyonce is the only one who managed to get closer over time.

 

Lady Gaga, Avril Lavigne and Xtina had more impact in the 00s than Taylor had in the 2010s

 

Taylor has the best hard numbers but she really has small impact on the newer generations and the artists of her time.

[Intuition]

4 minutes ago, Trent W said:

YEC don’t mean **** , the time split and the competition of each one doesn’t mean ****.

 

1989 is nowhere near as big as BOMT not on any metric. Is not up for debate.

 

And also 1989 was the third biggest album of the 2010s.

 
21 & 25 destroyed it.

 

 

Ok, you're just delusional and coping if you think YEC don't mean anything

Good night 

 

[FightDragonsWithMe]

4 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Britney had more impact than all of the 00s girls, Beyonce is the only one who managed to get closer over time.

 

Lady Gaga, Avril Lavigne and Xtina had more impact in the 00s than Taylor had in the 2010s

 

Taylor has the best hard numbers but she really has small impact on the newer generations and the artists of her time.

Britney's "impact" isn't felt today in 2023, meanwhile all the new girls cite Taylor as an influence. Taylor's impact is also bigger than shock value like Britney used, her fighting for her masters and making it easier for Olivia to own her catalogue =\\= whatever tragic thing Britney did in the TRL Era for shock. 

Edited April 18, 2023 by FightDragonsWithMe

[Intuition]

Just now, FightDragonsWithMe said:

Britney's "impact" isn't felt today in 2023, meanwhile all the new girls cite Taylor as an influence. Taylor's impact is also bigger than shock value like Britney used, her fighting for her masters and making it easier for Olivia to own her catalogue =\\= whatever tragic thing Britney find in the TRL Era for shock. 

Also, practically all of Britney's "impact" can be traced to Janet Jackson & Madonna. 

As a singer-songwriter, Taylor has had way more impact on the newer generations and everyone wants a Taylor-like career.

Britney is fabulous for a throwback, but she's not something anyone aspires to be in 2023

[Popboi.]

3 minutes ago, Intuition said:

Ok, you're just delusional and coping if you think YEC don't mean anything

Good night 

 

BOMT also had it's entire chart run in a single tracking year, 1989 only had weeks for it's first YEC 

[Trent W]

3 minutes ago, FightDragonsWithMe said:

Britney's "impact" isn't felt today in 2023, meanwhile all the new girls cite Taylor as an influence. Taylor's impact is also bigger than shock value like Britney used, her fighting for her masters and making it easier for Olivia to own her catalogue =\\= whatever tragic thing Britney did in the TRL Era for shock. 

The only girl that she has influenced is Olivia, and she took back the stanning once Taylor bullied her into giving her royalties of a song that sounded similar  

[brazil]

1 hour ago, YellowRibbon said:

The impact of Iconography is highly overrated among pop fans' circles. Most people on this forum will recognize Britney walking with a snake on that stage in many years from now but the question comes down to "Will the new generations find any of this relevant?". What history has shown us is that the general public tends to remember specific songs or sometimes albums from mainstream artists more than all the extra stuff added to a song. 

 

With all of that in mind, saying that Taylor will end up with the biggest musical career between the two,in the long run, feels more accurate, especially looking at the numbers and how long did they manage to navigate the industry before declining. Britney's name feels more ingrained with Pop Culture though, and that's something that no one can take away from her. 

Thats not quite true, many times people will remember more moments, styles. Just look at Marilyn Monroe. And if we talk about songs Britney's biggest hits are more remembered than Taylor's. 

 

But i guess regarding the overall longevity and commercial success, Taylor is bigger

[FightDragonsWithMe]

19 minutes ago, Trent W said:

The only girl that she has influenced is Olivia, and she took back the stanning once Taylor bullied her into giving her royalties of a song that sounded similar  

Halsey, Troye Sivan, Kelsea Ballerini are all right there? Britney hasn't mattered musically since George Bush was president. 

[FightDragonsWithMe]

20 minutes ago, brazil said:

Thats not quite true, many times people will remember more moments, styles. Just look at Marilyn Monroe. And if we talk about songs Britney's biggest hits are more remembered than Taylor's. 

 

But i guess regarding the overall longevity and commercial success, Taylor is bigger

Britney won't be remembered even remotely like Marilyn was. Idk why y'all make that unhinged argument. 

[Trent W]

6 minutes ago, FightDragonsWithMe said:

Halsey, Troye Sivan, Kelsea Ballerini are all right there? Britney hasn't mattered musically since George Bush was president. 

Oh Z-lists, Halsey is the only one that has a relevant career who has also stanned/supported Britney.

 

The only relevant person Taylor has influenced is Olivia and as I already said she made her hate her after coming after her.

 

God I don’t wanna come as a Taylor hater since Im a fan but some of her fans are soooo soo delusional

[Trent W]

9 minutes ago, FightDragonsWithMe said:

Britney won't be remembered even remotely like Marilyn was. Idk why y'all make that unhinged argument. 

If Britney is not remembered after the impact and influence she had in the 00s then no one will.

 

She was the most famous person in the world during that decade.

[FightDragonsWithMe]

Just now, Trent W said:

Oh Z-lists, Halsey is the only one that has a relevant career who has also stanned/supported Britney.

 

The only relevant person Taylor has influenced is Olivia and as I already said she made her hate her after coming after her.

 

God I don’t wanna come as a Taylor hater since Im a fan but some of her fans are soooo soo delusional

Taylor's impact is on the business side of things tho, Taylor is making moves for the industry as a whole while Britney was faking lesbianism and basically selling her underaged body 

[FightDragonsWithMe]

1 minute ago, Trent W said:

If Britney is not remembered after the impact and influence she had in the 00s then no one will.

 

She was the most famous person in the world during that decade.

She was a tabloid fixture I agree but she wasn't the most famous person musically that decade when Beyoncé & Eminem are right there. 

[Trent W]

2 minutes ago, FightDragonsWithMe said:

Taylor's impact is on the business side of things tho, Taylor is making moves for the industry as a whole while Britney was faking lesbianism and basically selling her underaged body 

So you are basically out of arguments  

[FightDragonsWithMe]

1 minute ago, Trent W said:

So you are basically out of arguments  

Not a soul in 2023 cares about Britney's "impact" that isn't felt today have fun living in 2004 tho! 

[TheHiveMind]

On 4/16/2023 at 5:36 PM, nickolsen said:

Lash what ? 
 

« britney jean » sold more than « midnights» 

[Blackout2006]

19 hours ago, dreampop said:

Taylor nor Britney have had 12 consecutive top 10 singles like Miss Donna 

 

Very hard to get

[Monkey_Juice]

16 hours ago, The Music Industry said:

Me when I don't answer a question logically and factually and instead resort to my personal feelings and emotions 

 

Sorry but I don't believe in scientology or whatever you, Taylor and the swifties are into.

 

Like I said Toxic > Taylor Swift