poll Bigger Classic: We Belong Together vs Shallow

[Into The Void]

On 4/6/2023 at 7:40 PM, suburbannature said:

You're quite literally lying. Nielsen Soundscan is freely available online.

 

Because of You sold 2,000,000 units (Billboard citing Soundscan) and Hollaback girl was recently updated with certs for 5x million. Mariah stands at over 6 million with 4 million of that being pure. Mariah was ahead of BOY in pure even before recent updates by RIAA and Nielsen, for example.

People using daily streams for 2005 songs. Curious how many streams are other 2005 hits doing compared to WBT.

 

This thread is dumb. You can't compare a physical/digital era song to a streaming era song it isn't realistic

[CBC]

23 minutes ago, Margaux said:

not really a set up when gaga won 2 vs 1 accdg to poll

have you ever interacted with a BIG monster on this forum?

 

ot: WE BELONG TOOGEEETHAAAA 

[Margaux]

2 minutes ago, CBC said:

have you ever interacted with a BIG monster on this forum?

 

ot: WE BELONG TOOGEEETHAAAA 

idk how does that relate to my post but im gonna say, probably?

 

anyways shallow won. case closed 

[Cloudy]

Shallow of course. Tho I think WBT is better so it wins that

[toxicgenie]

 

 

I like WBT more, but I think Shallow has had a bigger impact in pop culture, so it's a bigger classic. I also notice Shallow is popular at karaoke bars unlike WBT.

 

 

Edited April 9, 2023 by toxicgenie

[Rev8]

Not the 2 delulu Gaga stans acting like Liddos aren't the one who constantly attacking other artists/fanbases

 

 

 

ot: It's We Belong Together for now obviously

ain't no way we can compare longevity, when both released probably a decade from eachother

 WBT has shownb Much more impact no competition

 

Anyways, not enough time has passed

[stevyy]

3 hours ago, toxicgenie said:

 

 

I like WBT more, but I think Shallow has had a bigger impact in pop culture, so it's a bigger classic. I also notice Shallow is popular at karaoke bars unlike WBT.

 

 

Nobody has the range to sing Mariah Carey songs. duh.

[Forever Winter]

1 hour ago, Rev8 said:

Not the 2 delulu Gaga stans acting like Liddos aren't the one who constantly attacking other artists/fanbases

 

[Hot Volcano]

1 hour ago, Rev8 said:

Not the 2 delulu Gaga stans acting like Liddos aren't the one who constantly attacking other artists/fanbases

 

 

 

ot: It's We Belong Together for now obviously

ain't no way we can compare longevity, when both released probably a decade from eachother

 WBT has shownb Much more impact no competition

 

Anyways, not enough time has passed

What impact? Where? Post some receipts, dont be shy

[Kaykay]

People of all ages love Shallow, and it's also a very global hit too.

[Cryptique]

13 hours ago, toxicgenie said:

 

 

I like WBT more, but I think Shallow has had a bigger impact in pop culture, so it's a bigger classic. I also notice Shallow is popular at karaoke bars unlike WBT.

 

 

of course.. especially if you're outside US

 

WBT is EXTREMELY LOCAL

[Cryptique]

9 hours ago, stevyy said:

Nobody has the range to sing Mariah Carey songs. duh.

HERO, Through The Rain, Against All Odds, Can't Take That Away From Me, Without You, My All

I've heard these songs in Karaoke Sessions here in the PH

 

For an ACT that was MASSIVE in the PH.. WBT and TEOM Era was just not patronized.. WBT was/is EXTREMELY LOCAL 

[stevyy]

Streams per known service:

 

WBT:

788 million - Pandora 

572 million - Youtube 

453 million - Spotify

 

Holy mother, almost 800 million on Pandora. 

 

[thetea]

20 hours ago, Cryptique said:

HERO, Through The Rain, Against All Odds, Can't Take That Away From Me, Without You, My All

I've heard these songs in Karaoke Sessions here in the PH

 

For an ACT that was MASSIVE in the PH.. WBT and TEOM Era was just not patronized.. WBT was/is EXTREMELY LOCAL 

are you seriously saying this when @stevyy literally posted all of the receipts which prove that it had global success. hearing songs in karaoke bars isn't a measure of success. they're both huge singles that came out a significant amount of time apart, so this entire comparison is odd and unfounded. 

[jim19911126]

Since Mariah is the queen of entire universe who is bigger than Santa Claus, I had to vote for WBT.

 

But Sha-la-la law is more remembered is for sure.

[prézli]

To me, it's still a mystery how Shallow became a hit. It sounds so outdated.  

[Cryptique]

16 hours ago, prézli said:

To me, it's still a mystery how Shallow became a hit. It sounds so outdated.  

y'all be throwing the word "outdated" like it aint nothing 

[Cryptique]

16 hours ago, prézli said:

To me, it's still a mystery how Shallow became a hit. It sounds so outdated.  

y'all be throwing the word "outdated" like it aint nothing 

[Dula Peep]

Shallow is bigger but All I want for Christmas is even bigger so enjoy that Lambs 

[Cryptique]

On 4/11/2023 at 9:40 AM, thetea said:

are you seriously saying this when @stevyy literally posted all of the receipts which prove that it had global success. hearing songs in karaoke bars isn't a measure of success. they're both huge singles that came out a significant amount of time apart, so this entire comparison is odd and unfounded. 

and what percent of that success came from the US? 80%? 

[thetea]

13 minutes ago, Cryptique said:

and what percent of that success came from the US? 80%? 

that's irrelevant. if you would bother to read it's chart statistics and sales instead of idiotically commenting when you're clearly wrong then you'd know that it was a global success, despite what your small minded mentality may lead you to believe. 

[stevyy]

57 minutes ago, thetea said:

that's irrelevant. if you would bother to read it's chart statistics and sales instead of idiotically commenting when you're clearly wrong then you'd know that it was a global success, despite what your small minded mentality may lead you to believe. 

WBT made TEOM a global success... it sold over 2,6 million copies outside the US. Her previous albums (Glitter and Charmbracelet) sold way less. It's not often that someone can survive two flop albums in a row and then return with a HUGE success. 

 

To me, it's OK that the MIMI era was more successful in the US than globally... but it doesn't mean that it wasn't successful globally with Gold and platinum certs in countries such as UK, France, Germany, Japan and Brazil. 

 

The big comparison is always the one versus Confessions on a Dancefloor...

 

USA:

2,000,000 - COADF 

7,000,000 - TEOM

 

Europe:

6,000,000 - COADF

1,250,000 - TEOM

 

They did the reverse in those parts of the world. 

 

What an era or what two great eras in general. 

[thetea]

2 hours ago, stevyy said:

WBT made TEOM a global success... it sold over 2,6 million copies outside the US. Her previous albums (Glitter and Charmbracelet) sold way less. It's not often that someone can survive two flop albums in a row and then return with a HUGE success. 

 

To me, it's OK that the MIMI era was more successful in the US than globally... but it doesn't mean that it wasn't successful globally with Gold and platinum certs in countries such as UK, France, Germany, Japan and Brazil. 

 

The big comparison is always the one versus Confessions on a Dancefloor...

 

USA:

2,000,000 - COADF 

7,000,000 - TEOM

 

Europe:

6,000,000 - COADF

1,250,000 - TEOM

 

They did the reverse in those parts of the world. 

 

What an era or what two great eras in general. 

@Cryptique

[Cryptique]

3 minutes ago, thetea said:

@Cryptique

You just showed me that TEOM Era was indeed LOCAL 

[thetea]

2 minutes ago, Cryptique said:

You just showed me that TEOM Era was indeed LOCAL 

you're literally just picking and choosing what you're reading. did you bother to read this before mindlessly replying like you do in every thread you comment in?

2 hours ago, stevyy said:

but it doesn't mean that it wasn't successful globally with Gold and platinum certs in countries such as UK, France, Germany, Japan and Brazil.