poll Bigger Classic: We Belong Together vs Shallow

[Mystic Boy]

33 minutes ago, industry baby said:

All of this can be said for Lady Gaga as well. 

Everyone thought she was done with ARTPOP. 
But god… She came like a wrecking ball with A Star Is Born era. 

The Movie, The Album, The singles, The Awards season it was all 10/10. 

The did not miss a step. 

Right? not a single misstep

 

31 minutes ago, jqnetto said:

WBT. 

 

Never heard of the other one.

At least try to lie better ? 

[Axelios]

Shallow is too recent to be a classic. WBT is not that remembered compared to a lot of other big 2000s songs.

[Mr. Stratus]

Shallow. Really surprised it’s winning the poll tbh even though it’s clearly the right answer 

[babyforlife]

Please love MC. But WBT isn't even Mariah biggest hit here in some of Asian Countries. It feels like Hero is even bigger hit than that.

 

OT: Shallow.

Edited April 7, 2023 by babyforlife
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[John Slayne]

Shallow is much bigger and much better

 

WBT is a local hit 

[charot]

2 hours ago, babyforlife said:

Please love MC. But WBT isn't even Mariah biggest hit here in some of Asian Countries. It feels like Hero is even bigger hit than that.

 

 

even Through the Rain >>>

Edited April 7, 2023 by charot

[Forever Winter]

6 hours ago, Zaram said:

Not @Taeyong creating threads to compare gaga songs with some other random song and then being mad he didn't get the result he wanted 

Imagine getting mad at a poll result.  I would love to see proof of me getting angry that would be hilarious

[Mystic Boy]

6 hours ago, Zaram said:

Not @Taeyong creating threads to compare gaga songs with some other random song and then being mad he didn't get the result he wanted 

[SharonStone]

We Belong Together was the BB song of the decade (locally)??

Holy mother of radio payola, how did that happen?

Shallow by default.

[Aethereal]

8 hours ago, SharonStone said:

We Belong Together was the BB song of the decade (locally)??

Holy mother of radio payola, how did that happen?

Shallow by default.

6 million pure album sales in US  alone came from ... what?

Edited April 7, 2023 by Aristotle

[Aethereal]

On 4/7/2023 at 12:21 AM, suburbannature said:

The straight-up delusion on this site sometimes

I mean TEOM sold 6.1M US pure sales, more than TFM and TF combined together who had multiply hits. Weren't most of those sales generated by WBT? 

Yall are delusional. 

[ArtForFreedom]

WBT for all

[thetea]

16 hours ago, SharonStone said:

We Belong Together was the BB song of the decade (locally)??

Holy mother of radio payola, how did that happen?

the delusion to believe this since when does radio alone send a song to #1 for 14 weeks and make it the song of the decade.

[thetea]

people always use small european countries to argue that a song is local while also ignoring asia which has countries larger than the entire european population

[sasashite]

Shallow is way bigger.

WBT is kinda forgotten and it was only huge in the US thanks to airplay. Poor sales and mediocre on streaming. It is the better song though.

[Mystic Boy]

26 minutes ago, thetea said:

the delusion to believe this since when does radio alone send a song to #1 for 14 weeks and make it the song of the decade.

Since radio is the biggest metric on the Billboard Hot 100 and Billboard decade charts

[Dark Miracles]

On 4/7/2023 at 2:03 AM, suburbannature said:

Mariah's global units without a single US sale put her as the 6th best-selling female ever WW (and are additionally above your fave's total, adjusted units)

Scrumptious read

[MotoPapi]

I don’t either remember how shallow goes besides her screaming throughout the song. 
 

WbT is a timeless classic and better.

[VioletsandRoses]

2 hours ago, thetea said:

the delusion to believe this since when does radio alone send a song to #1 for 14 weeks and make it the song of the decade.

It spent 16 weeks at #1 on radio and not a single week at #1 on sales. 

 

11 hours ago, Aristotle said:

I mean TEOM sold 6.1M US pure sales, more than TFM and TF combined together who had multiply hits. Weren't most of those sales generated by WBT? 

Yall are delusional. 

Comparing album sales from 2005 (when digital sales were just getting started) to 2009 (when they began smashing) and album sales declined dramatically makes no sense. And no 4.98m plus 1.65m is more than 6.1m

[industry baby]

19 hours ago, SharonStone said:

We Belong Together was the BB song of the decade (locally)??

Holy mother of radio payola, how did that happen?

Shallow by default.

It had like 180M + radio airplay weekly 

Was US population even that much in 2005? 

According to radio stations %60-70 of US heard the song on the radio weekly. 

The manipulation of it all 

[stevyy]

1 hour ago, sasashite said:

Shallow is way bigger.

WBT is kinda forgotten and it was only huge in the US thanks to airplay. Poor sales and mediocre on streaming. It is the better song though.

A song with like 40+ #1's rankings in 2005-2006 versus the forgotten one, WBT. (April 6th, 2023)

 

263,256 - Hung Up -----------334,440 - WBT

 

The airplay only hit is 6xP in the US and airplay is not integrated into RIAA certifications. 

 

TEOM era: USA

7x Platinum - 7,000,000 - album

6x Platinum - 6,000,000 - We Belong Together

1x Platinum - 1,000,000 - Shake It Off

1x Platinum - 1,000,000 - Don't Forget About Us

1x Platinum - 1,000,000 - We Belong Together (Mastertone)

Gold ------ - 500,000 - It's Like That

= 16,5 million certified units in the USA

 

We Belong Together will hit 100 million streams on Spotify alone in 2023.

Total streams on that one platform will exceed 500 million by October, 2023.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[stevyy]

9 minutes ago, industry baby said:

It had like 180M + radio airplay weekly 

Was US population even that much in 2005? 

According to radio stations %60-70 of US heard the song on the radio weekly. 

The manipulation of it all 

According to BDS Airplay, it peaked with 221 million audience impressions. It also set the Mediabase airplay record in the US with 254 million audience impressions.

[stevyy]

14 minutes ago, VioletsandRoses said:

It spent 16 weeks at #1 on radio and not a single week at #1 on sales. 

 

Comparing album sales from 2005 (when digital sales were just getting started) to 2009 (when they began smashing) and album sales declined dramatically makes no sense. And no 4.98m plus 1.65m is more than 6.1m

TEOM has pure soundscan sales of 6,086,183 (July, 2018). 

Last year, it was re-certified 7xP (7 million).

[stevyy]

2 hours ago, Dark Miracles said:

Scrumptious read

Pure sales outside the US (according to chartsmasters):

 

1990 - 4,9 million - Mariah Carey

1991 - 3,7 million - Emotions

1992 - 3,5 million - Unplugged

1993 - 15,5 million - Music Box

1994 - 7,5 million - Music Box

1995 - 9,5 million - Daydream

1997 - 4,7 million - Butterfly

1998 - 10,5 million - #1's

1999 - 4,2 million - Rainbow

 

2001 - 1,5 million - Glitter

2001 - 3,5 million - Greatest Hits

2002 - 1,75 million - Charmbracelet

2003 - 0,3 million - The Remixes

2005 - 2,8 million - TEOM

2008 - 1,1 million - E=MC²

2009 - 0,5 million - The Ballads

2009 - 0,5 million - Memoirs

 

2010 - 0,4 million - Merry Xmas 2

2014 - 0,15 million - Elusive Chanteuse

2015 - 0,3 million - Infinity

2018 - 0,1 million - Caution

= 76,9 million outside the US (pure)

= 73,0 million in the US (pure)

 

Combined: #3 alltime globally

Excluding the US: #6 alltime

[robbyds]

the song of the DECADE did THAT!