Aethereal Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 7:52 PM, Queen. said: Not the time or place right now.
Aethereal Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Harrier said: It's inconceivable that they'd lead with a headline 'Nashville white shooter kills six' or even 'Nashville black shooter kills six'. And yet somehow in their warped brains, it's acceptable to do so with trans people. truly I hope this shooter rots in hell not only for their crimes but also for helping the fascist attack on trans people gain even more momentum All they saw was "him/he" in a Linkedin profile. I do not doubt the shooter was trans but still they did not wait any second for additional proof as they should and just rushed to report it. Edited March 29, 2023 by Aristotle
J Legend X Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 This is terrible for all the victims, RIP :( it seems that there are shootings every week tbh; that being said... my only question is, why is this taking so much media coverage? Is it because Nashville is predominately white?
suburbannature Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 literally who gives af if the shooter was trans or not when that has zero bearing on stopping these shootings from happening REGULARLY. and regardless, the VAST majority of these mass shootings are carried out by cishet white men. Are we stupid enough to let the right distract from discussions about control by trying to further vilify the trans community?
ClashAndBurn Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, J Legend X said: This is terrible for all the victims, RIP :( it seems that there are shootings every week tbh; that being said... my only question is, why is this taking so much media coverage? Is it because Nashville is predominately white? Uvalde got a lot of media coverage, so no. For the right, the reason they're covering it is because they have a trans bogeyman to focus the anger on, and likely justify legislation targeting trans people in general such as banning people with gender dysphoria diagnoses from owning firearms. Tucker Carlson was even calling for exactly that a few days before the shooting happened, because the right doesn't want trans people to have the ability to defend themselves. The more extreme ones are calling for forced psychiatric therapy, ultimately amounting to concentration camps if they get away with it.
Ash12345 Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: They absolutely WOULD do the second one. There just aren't any examples because school shootings are almost exclusively a cis white male phenomenon in 99% of cases. 1 mass shooting by a trans person is definitely not a pattern, but I would say that school shootings are more of an American mental health problem than a cis white problem. School shootings are connected to mental illness and hopelessness/suicidal behavior. American is a majority White country, and non-Hispanic whites make up something like 80% of suicides in the US, and 75-80% of suicides are by males. So it's expected that most school shootings and mass shootings will be by White men. Deadliest school shootings this century and perpetrators 33 deaths, Virginia Tech, Korean male (Seung-Hui Cho) 27 deaths, Sandy Hook, White male (Adam Lanza) 22 deaths, Uvalde, White (Hispanic) male (Salvador Ramos) 17 deaths, Parkland White (Hispanic?) male (Nikolas Cruz) 10 deaths, Santa Fe H.S., White male (Dimitrios Pagourtzis) 10 deaths, Red Lake shootings, Native American male (Jeff Weise) 10 deaths, Umpqua Community College shooting, White male (Christopher Harper-Mercer) 7 deaths, Covenant School shooting, White trans male (Aiden Hale) 7 deaths, Oikos University shooting, Korean male (One L. Goh) 6 deaths, West Nickel Mines shooting, White male (Charles Carl Roberts IV) 6 deaths, Northern Illinois University shooting, White male (Steven Kazmierczak) 6 deaths, 2013 Santa Monica shootings, (White/Arab mixed?) male (John Zawahri) 6 deaths, Rancho Tehama shootings, White male (Kevin Neal) 5 deaths, Marysville Pilchunk H.S., Native American male (Jaylen Fryberg) If you include the White Hispanic males as White, that's 9/14 (64%) of the shootings committed by cis White males (assuming none other than Aiden Hale were trans) compared to about 62% of Americans being White, and about 83% of suicides being White. If you include this century's school shootings with 3-4 deaths, then there were 16 of those this century, 14 of them by males, 2 by females, 7 by Whites, 6 by Blacks, 1 by a mixed White/Asian, 1 by a S Asian, 1 by a Hispanic(?). Edited March 30, 2023 by Ash12345
Buffy Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Espresso said: This is really tragic. I can’t imagine what that pastor & father of his deceased child must be going through. His daughter definitely seems to have been targeted
family.guy123 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 A manifesto has allegedly been released
Ash12345 Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 On 11/6/2023 at 8:45 PM, qegqeg said: It looks fake Police confirmed that it's real and are investigating how it was able to leak. I have to say, this is all a little strange. White trans/non-binary person calling people crackers and f-words? The writing is very juvenile too, reads more like an angry 13 year old than a 28 year old.
Ash12345 Posted April 19 Posted April 19 (edited) So apparently John Perry, one of the founders of Nashville Covenant was a child sexual abuser and admitted child molester and people tied to Covenant tried to cover it up. https://cases.justia.com/tennessee/court-of-appeals/2014-m2013-02273-coa-r3-cv.pdf?ts=1403648321 Perry was also running a "safe house" for children out of his private home in the 00s. https://www.courthousenews.com/church-accused-of-covering-for-molester/ https://janespeaksup.com/2021/07/04/secret-settlements-in-child-sexual-abuse-cases-cover-up-in-williamson-county-part-3/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/co-author-of-mike-huckabee-books-was-accused-of-child-molest It looks like Perry, who co-wrote books about "character" and "doing the right thing" for Republican Governor Mike Huckabee's presidential campaign was finally disciplined by Nashville Covenant in 2009-2012. His victims were pre-teen girls. Maybe if the full manifesto gets released, we'll find out what drove Hale to target Covenant school, but it does seem like there were some bad people running things there. Edited April 19 by Ash12345
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