charts discussion Spotify: Endless Summer Vacation 29,9m debut | First week: 151m

[Monster Queen]

13 minutes ago, SignificantOther said:

He's outselling in most countries. She's only ahead WW because of the US. 

Most countries? We need the receipt, there are 195 countries in the world and we need you to provide the exact streams and physical numbers from every country. And even this is true still can't change the fact that Midnights outsold HH in two months globally, no matter if it's "outselling" Midnights in serval counrties

[More Than A Melody]

Just now, Feanor said:

Multiple Swifties here did not claim that, nor mentioned SZA.

 

It was you who needed to bring up what was said by a random user on a different website because you were fishing for an argument here. If you had a problem with that, you'd be addressing it with those users on that platform instead of coming here, accusing someone of making fraudulent claims and then acting like those claims were stated by multiple people.

We're going in circles.

 

 You're projecting your own issues on me, picking a fight that's very easy to avoid.

 

I explained it once, I'll explain it one more time and actually end this argument because it's completely pointless.

 

A Swiftie said this here:

4 hours ago, taylor__fan said:

Happy that Miley is improving from PH, but all these Columbia artists getting MASSIVE smashes as lead singles only to underperform later, is starting to smell fishy

 

At the same exact time, I saw a Swiftie say the exact same thing on twitter. It didn't even cross my mind that multiple Swifites would come to the same ridiculous conclusion at the same time, so I assumed it was the same person, hence why I said

  

2 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

Just saw you on twitter with this lame ass theory as well

I wasn't picking a fight. I don't have a public twitter account, so I replied here, since the claim was made on both platforms. I simply disproved the claim, not putting Taylor down, mind you, just showing the user that the claim didn't make any sense.

 

Because any mention of Taylor that's not "she's the music industry" is perceived by her fans as some sort of slap in the face by @Artistofthedecade they decided to pull a long ass response showing me that Taylor is bigger than Harry, which had absolutely no correlation to this thread or what I was saying. I did fall into the trap of replying to that person once, arguing with stats with more context. I have them on ignore because they always do this, but three other Swifites quoted them and @ ed me, so I saw it and MY BAD. I replied. I shouldn't have, and I haven't fallen into the trap of arguing unrelated stats for a second time. The other arguments are being had by other stans.

 

Then you quoted me and accused me of being the one to incite a stan war, when I literally and provably didn't. All I did was say "hey, the implication that Columbia artists are being fraudulent is wrong for this, that, and this other reason."

 

I even said "my bad" when the person claimed it wasn't their tweet. What else do you want from me?

 

Now watch how you and others will complain that I'm "writing essays" for explaining myself when it's you who keep taking everything I say out of context to have a fight. Have a fight with yourself. If you keep it up you're going on ignore as well, so don't bother.

[mypaintoyou]

Some Harry stans brag about Harry playing 15 forums in LA arena 

but Taylor is playing 5 nights in LA SoFi STADIUMS!!!
they don’t understand the difference 🥱

Edited March 11, 2023 by mypaintoyou

[hungrymuffin]

31 minutes ago, wish said:

Swifties are truly something else. They will fight with anyone and everyone for no reason 

perfect example of an OTH: no logic

 

and that harry stan is back from the dead  oh god ive never seen someone so insufferable 

 

OT: it truly bombed

[WildHeart]

I am sure all of swifties despise you like that because of me. Sure that must be the reason behind it 

[Intuition]

This is a disaster 

[Monster Queen]

Just now, More Than A Melody said:

We're going in circles.

 

 You're projecting your own issues on me, picking a fight that's very easy to avoid.

 

I explained it once, I'll explain it one more time and actually end this argument because it's completely pointless.

 

A Swiftie said this here:

At the same exact time, I saw a Swiftie say the exact same thing on twitter. It didn't even cross my mind that multiple Swifites would come to the same ridiculous conclusion at the same time, so I assumed it was the same person, hence why I said

  

I wasn't picking a fight. I don't have a public twitter account, so I replied here, since the claim was made on both platforms. I simply disproved the claim, not putting Taylor down, mind you, just showing the user that the claim didn't make any sense.

 

Because any mention of Taylor that's not "she's the music industry" is perceived by her fans as some sort of slap in the face by @Artistofthedecade they decided to pull a long ass response showing me that Taylor is bigger than Harry, which had absolutely no correlation to this thread or what I was saying. I did fall into the trap of replying to that person once, arguing with stats with more context. I have them on ignore because they always do this, but three other Swifites quoted them and @ ed me, so I saw it and MY BAD. I replied. I shouldn't have, and I haven't fallen into the trap of arguing unrelated stats for a second time. The other arguments are being had by other stans.

 

Then you quoted me and accused me of being the one to incite a stan war, when I literally and provably didn't. All I did was say "hey, the implication that Columbia artists are being fraudulent is wrong for this, that, and this other reason."

 

I even said "my bad" when the person claimed it wasn't their tweet. What else do you want from me?

 

Now watch how you and others will complain that I'm "writing essays" for explaining myself when it's you who keep taking everything I say out of context to have a fight. Have a fight with yourself. If you keep it up you're going on ignore as well, so don't bother.

I don't really want to watch this type of essay here and I know anyone else here either, you really need to go offline right now sis 

[SignificantOther]

2 minutes ago, Monster Queen said:

Most countries? We need the receipt, there are 195 countries in the world and we need you to provide the exact streams and physical numbers from every country. And even this is true still can't change the fact that Midnights outsold HH in two months globally, no matter if it's "outselling" Midnights in serval counrties

Just look at the year-end charts of both albums and the most recent weekly charts. He outsold in Canada, Austria, France, Belgium, Denmark, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, New-Zealand, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the UK. 

 

[Katamari]

the media payola always backfires for her

 

they did it with bangerz and the gp said no then 

[UnusualBoy]

Why are Little Harolds fighting with the Swifties on a Miley thread?  

[Sad Serenade]

Her debut is poor but maybe she will have the longevity. I'm surprised about the lack of live promotion she did compared to the past.

[Monster Queen]

7 minutes ago, SignificantOther said:

Just look at the year-end charts of both albums and the most recent weekly charts. He outsold in Canada, Austria, France, Belgium, Denmark, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, New-Zealand, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the UK. 

 

Good for the album contains the biggest hit of the year to outsell Taylor's 10th album in serval countries after the Grammy boost and touring, really hope these cute lil sales can help it to catch up with Midnights' global total units quickly  Enjoy your time before the start of the biggest tour ever of any solo artist

Edited March 11, 2023 by Monster Queen

[Communion]

The Swifties and Queerbaiters taking over the thread going back and forth while Ariantors got our kiis and bounced. 

[SignificantOther]

5 minutes ago, Monster Queen said:

Good for the album contains the biggest hit of the year to outsell Taylor's 10th album in serval countries after the Grammy boost and touring, really hope this cute lil sales can help it to catch up with Midnights' global total units quickly 

He already outsold overseas. Something like 75% of local Taylor's sales come from the US. 

[MonsterNavy]

who knows the list of top 15 biggest spotify first day/week debuts?

[More Than A Melody]

Just now, MonsterNavy said:

who knows the list of top 15 biggest spotify first day/week debuts?

 

Can't find a top 15, but that's close enough?

[terrorblade]

this thread

[Monster Queen]

11 minutes ago, SignificantOther said:

He already outsold overseas. Something like 75% of local Taylor's sales come from the US. 

Midnights has over 7.5m (7m CSPS, physical units haven't updated since November 2022) global units rn and only 3.9m of them comes from US, but you can keep doing wrong math and pretend the  US is not the biggest music market and an important part of the world, or anything that makes you feel better 

 

And there's not "already", how can you say an album released 6 months earlier "already" outsold?   Midnights already outsold HH globally, indeed

Edited March 11, 2023 by Monster Queen

[Sesame]

Miss miley will have longevity on her side, trust 

 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Monster Queen said:

Midnights has over 7.5m (7m CSPS, physical units haven't updated since November 2022) global units rn and only 3.9m of them comes from US, but you can keep doing wrong math and pretend the  US is not the biggest music market and an important part of the world, or anything that makes you feel better 

The fact that people are STILL pushing the "Taylor is local" narrative is so embarrassing. She has the weirdest and most delusional haters on this site 

[Elusive Chanteuse]

9 minutes ago, Sesame said:

Miss miley will have longevity on her side, trust 

 

I think so

[Thor]

Absolutely tragic but also expected?

 

I was really surprised when Flowers smashed because Miley has pretty much been a non-factor musically for the past 10 years. This proves that Flowers was just a fluke, maybe a payola-fueled fluke.

Anyway, back to irrelevancy she goes.

[MonsterNavy]

12 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

 

Can't find a top 15, but that's close enough?

thank you  

I was looking for top 15 or top 20 cause I know the top 10 is gonna be full of taylor and ariana nn

[MonsterNavy]

9 minutes ago, Sesame said:

Miss miley will have longevity on her side, trust 

 

yes, PH did the same #s and the lead single was a flop. miley will be fine

[ChrisTheLoner]

The swiffers as usual making everything about themselves

 

Fr tho most of the haters I see in this thread are Swifties, y’all really hate any female that isn’t Taylor huh?

 

 

ot: These numbers aren’t even bad like y’all are over exaggerating 

 

To put in perspective FN did 29M streams first day and this 27.7M

 

I believe she’s gonna have longevity and perhaps a similar trajectory to FN if things are planned out well

 

But anyways big numbers or not I’m still gonna stan ESV because this is her best album and none of you pathetic OMHs will convince me otherwise