Both Sides Now Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, Selegend said: i'm almost sure people talking about spotify algorithm is not people saying she wouldn't be #1 it's just people, maybe, thinking she would be #1 with like 10-12m or whatever and not 17m. this is not an out of this world or mean or hate thinking, no one said it wasn't going to be a hit or wasn't going to be #1 without the spotify algorithm change. it's just people thinking that maybe the spotify is helping with its giagantic total numbers. and i've already seen a lot of smilers talking about this on twitter, so it's def. not hate! me, personally, am 100% sure she would be #1 regardless of it. and i'm not the one to talk about the algorithm change cuz my streams of flowers have been organic, not suggested. but if the person is getting a lot of times it suggest it's not that weird to question it. yessssss i'm so excited for this album, the song grew on me so much. We’ll have to wait to see how future hits perform. This is obviously a smash - but the level of smashery is crazy
Selegend Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Both Sides Now said: We’ll have to wait to see how future hits perform. This is obviously a smash - but the level of smashery is crazy exactly. miley's comeback is for sure THE moment and it's not even "shaping up" to be a smash like some fans here said, it's already a smash and i'm not even a stan. and it would be a smash regardless of it, it's not the algorithm that made it a hit. but it's not cuz a song is #1 on AM and Youtube that it would #1 on spotify with 17m, it could be #1 on AM and Youtube and be #1 on spotify with wayyy less than 17m the level of smashery is what people are talking about and i agree with you, we won't know about it with Flowers itself we will know it with the next #1s songs this year with the new algorithm. will they have "normal" #1 numbers or will they have out of this world #1 numbers? only with new hits people will know about flowers. if the new hits have normal numbers, miley had a bigger than bangerz level of smashery if the new hits have another level of smashery on spotify, miley still had a huge and true smash on her hands but was also the first benefited from the new algorithm it's as simple as that
Scars Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Aaron said: He was trying to say “b-but Flowers just doesn’t feel big compared to DL and LYTLM!” Mind you, Flowers had probably been out for 2 days at that point The thing is that ATRL also questioned the numbers of Driver's License. The girls here love to have a short memory that only works for their benefit, but I remember VERY well the "streaming farms!" and "industry plant!" allegations. They all end up looking like clowns, of course. Edited January 18, 2023 by Scars
Walk_Away21 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, despy said: an undeniable smash! Screaming !
Brishka Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Why are people still pushing conspiracy theories about the Spotify algorithm when it is equally smashing on every single platform?
Scars Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Selegend said: but it's not cuz a song is #1 on AM and Youtube that it would #1 on spotify with 17m, it could be #1 on AM and Youtube and be #1 on spotify with wayyy less than 17m the level of smashery is what people are talking about The song already sold 40k pure sales based on iTunes sales alone, according to HDD. The tracking week isn't even over yet, but that figure is already massive for digital sales in 2023. It's pulling massive stats on all fronts. Edited January 18, 2023 by Scars
Bang Up Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 A true organic smash. Just goes to show some girls don't need remixes, discounts, and multiple versions to smash.
pika Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 The goal post moving from “wait for [insert day]’s numbers” to waiting for a hit that literally doesn’t exist to rationalize her success. I guess when you can’t dismiss her stats on controversy and Hannah Montana, you lose the last 3 brain cells you were working with. Further proof that ATRL chart detectives are the absolute worst thing humanity has to offer.
PoisonedIvy Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bang Up said: A true organic smash. Just goes to show some girls don't need remixes, discounts, and multiple versions to smash. Anti Hero pulled 82M streams in its first week with only one version, no discounts or remixes needed. Flowers will end up in that range, most likely just a bit above that. Both organic smashes, but you tried it. Edited January 18, 2023 by WeFoundTrouble
Ger Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said: What is this new Spotify algorithm method?
Selegend Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, pika said: The goal post moving from “wait for [insert day]’s numbers” to waiting for a hit that literally doesn’t exist to rationalize her success. I guess when you can’t dismiss her stats on controversy and Hannah Montana, you lose the last 3 brain cells you were working with. Further proof that ATRL chart detectives are the absolute worst thing humanity has to offer. we just had Nonsense that wasn't charting anymore cuz it tiktok trend slowed tf down suddenly (in literally one day) going top 100 with +1kk in one day and now it's top 50, there's a thread here about it, dear jesus. "worst thing humanity has to offer" Nonsense proved the power of the algorithm change why it couldn't boost an already #1 song with more streams? omg.. we will really only know in the future, that changes almost nothing about it's success and that's not a bad thing in humanity the society u live in doesn't have real problems? 7 minutes ago, Scars said: The song already sold 40k pure sales based on iTunes sales alone, according to HDD. The tracking week isn't even over yet, but that figure is already massive for digital sales in 2023. It's pulling massive stats in all fronts. it is a global huge smash hit regardless of the algorithm i've said that multiple times a song could do 7, 9, 12, 13, 15m+ streams and sell 40k before the tracking week is over. anyway, i don't even get flowers suggested, i get nonsense, so i really don't know. i just get it why people don't cut it off. i'm feeling the success is here to stay to the point where her album is going to pull really huge streaming numbers overall all of non-singles with, at least, 100m. insane for someone that debuted in the 00s. i feel it coming i've been seeing all of my friends hyped about it since the album cover came out went to the club 2 fridays ago, the day after the cover art came out, and they played midnight sky and mothers daughter flowers made it official and out of the internet / gay and stan world gp is stanning with flowers, stan-gay world was alredy stanning just with the cover art she has a smash ERA in her hands.
DoubleRainbow! Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Biggest female song after Easy On Me? we love to see it
Green Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Can someone post the US streams of the first 4 please?
Scars Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Selegend said: i've said that multiple times Ok, but you've also said something similar to "performing well in other metrics doesn't mean it's pulling numbers in the same level of the ones of Spotify". I quoted you to tell you that's not the case, according to HDD. Flowers is factually pulling massive numbers on all fronts. 44 minutes ago, Selegend said: she has a smash ERA in her hands. True! Edited January 18, 2023 by Scars
FruitofUtopia Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 What people here don't seem to grasp is that this song speaks to all demographics. Across the board. That's how you get a steamroller like this This is not a cute Tiktok-moment, this is a monsterhit
KeshaSwift Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Once a main pop girl , always a main pop girl. Y’all this gives me hope about Katy’s future in the music industry. - 1 hour ago, MonsterNavy said: she saw olivia being called " disney queen" after drivers license and g4u and said nope, lemme show you who the og disney queen is Lmfao. 39 minutes ago, Bang Up said: A true organic smash. Just goes to show some girls don't need remixes, discounts, and multiple versions to smash. You’re right! That’s why both Flowers and a single such as Anti-Hero by Taylor Swift smashed instantly. Also, there’s no need to feature current popular artists or big K-pop groups in order for the GP to check on you. Edited January 18, 2023 by KeshaSwift
jjmed59 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Green said: Biggest single day stream peaks of all-time on the global Spotify chart #1 All I Want For Christmas Is You 21.27M #2 Easy On Me 19.75M #3 Last Christmas 19.07M #4 Anti-Hero 17.4M #5 Rockin Around the Christmas Tree 17.28M #6 Flowers 17.07M shes coming for anti hero tomorrow YESSSS
NeuralBridge Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Scars said: Isn't this like your fourth post saying this and you were clocked with factual data regarding the performance of this song in other streaming services each time? I'm pretty sure you were also trying to say the song doesn't "feel like a big moment" the other day, whatever that's supposed to mean. It's giving flat-earther at this point. Ew at "let alone from Miley Cyrus" as if she has not proven herself to be a pop icon with cross-generational appeal. This
MonsterNavy Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Green said: Biggest single day stream peaks of all-time on the global Spotify chart #1 All I Want For Christmas Is You 21.27M #2 Easy On Me 19.75M #3 Last Christmas 19.07M #4 Anti-Hero 17.4M #5 Rockin Around the Christmas Tree 17.28M #6 Flowers 17.07M the fact that her snatching taylor and adele are 100% on lock and mariah's all time record not being safe either is just
MoonGoodandHappy Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Queen, legend, icon. She is EVERYTHING.
Aethereal Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 12:53 PM, Aristotle said: Coming for 17M tomorrow. I doubt it will increase to 18M. IMO it has reached it's peak today or at most tomorrow. This is great though.
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