SinnerCity Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, GwennyGwenGwen said: I said "for better or worse" for a reason. I think it's a complicated issue, that i honestly don't know exactly where I stand on, and am certainly not educated enough about to have a real opinion. I'm simply stating that I think Gwen's "take" isn't simply her being ditzy or out of touch...it comes from a very specific world view tied to the ska scene and ska music she grew up in (which plenty of people criticize these days too for the same reasons). You don't know where to stand with regards Gwen wanting to trademark asian culture, more precisely, Harajaku?
GwennyGwenGwen Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, SinnerCity said: You don't know where to stand with regards Gwen wanting to trademark asian culture, more precisely, Harajaku? Where did I say anything about that? I said that Gwen has real, thought out opinions about this topic (wrong or right...but also probably held by more people around the world than the authors view), and that the article unfortunately left that out for the most part and focused on what makes it seem like just some silly oblivious comment (which sure, the specific "i'm japanese!" quote probably was...but there was tons of context left out). In terms of the court case, if you want my opinion on that...i really have NO idea about it. But if she tried to trademark "Harajuku" then no i don't agree with that. If the trademark was Harajuku Lovers or whatever, then I don't particularly have a problem with that (based on my very limited understanding of the court case).
plumbartist Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I'm ready for J-Pop Idol Gwen Stefani ha comeback era.
Schami66 Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Maybe she is japanese but apparently she is not in the studio recording a worthy follow-up to Love Angel Music Baby?
Schami66 Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 14 hours ago, Mtjjproducer said: fergies album was always better than both of Gwen’s albums Better than Sweet Escape? Yes. Better than Love Angel Music Baby? ****, no.
James_Dean Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Whoever wrote the article is a nit-picky *****
Cloudy Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 19 hours ago, Communion said: Now did she? Well now this is problematic and should get her ass blasted for it
memo90061 Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I love love love love Gwen, but I don't like that she said "I'm Japanese." :( She's my absolute favorite.
scenekiller Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 In terms of her being inspired by Japanese culture and proudly saying it, good. Cultural appropriation is such a US-centric problem that usually only angers a particular set of white Americans. Barely anyone, and literally nobody outside of the USA, is going to care about this. Copyrighting a term you didn't coin for a culture you didn't create or lead, however - now THERE'S a conversation to have. I seriously hope they only trademarked the specific phrase "Harajuku Lovers", which itself is still bordering on problematic.
ProudLBS Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, scenekiller said: Copyrighting a term you didn't coin for a culture you didn't create or lead, however - now THERE'S a conversation to have. I seriously hope they only trademarked the specific phrase "Harajuku Lovers", which itself is still bordering on problematic. I work with trademarks and I’m screaming at the **** Gwen managed to trademark “Harajuku Lovers” “Harajuku Girl” ”Harajuku Mini” ”Harajuku Hugs” ”Harajuku Lovers A Fatal Attraction To Cuteness” ”A Fatal Attraction To Cuteness” ”Wicked Style” “Pop Electric” Edited January 11, 2023 by ProudLBS
Mtjjproducer Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Schami66 said: Better than Sweet Escape? Yes. Better than Love Angel Music Baby? ****, no. only great song by her is cool. sweet escape is good. sweet escape only the pre chorus is bad but the rest is good and hollaback girl was so annoying that it because good. the rest of her music can be skipped
Escape Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Not me thinking this was an old quote that resurfaced.
Raphy23 Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 11:02 AM, Kim Petrat said: i just don’t understand what would possess her to say something like that after YEARS of backlash She stands true to her belief.
Da Vinci Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Not some ATRLers acting like Japanese people should even be thankful Gwen "promoted" their culture to Americans huh??? Not surprised since even racism against Asians is brushed off or downplayed by many members here
flower moon Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 someone go to the streets of japan and ask what they think
Reverse Warholian Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 7 hours ago, scenekiller said: In terms of her being inspired by Japanese culture and proudly saying it, good. Cultural appropriation is such a US-centric problem that usually only angers a particular set of white Americans. Barely anyone, and literally nobody outside of the USA, is going to care about this. Copyrighting a term you didn't coin for a culture you didn't create or lead, however - now THERE'S a conversation to have. I seriously hope they only trademarked the specific phrase "Harajuku Lovers", which itself is still bordering on problematic. This
manwhore Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Good make the extremist faux woke Gen z kids fume chola mom.
brooklyndaddy Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) I don’t know where I stand on this. Because if you ask Japanese people in Japan how they feel I’m sure they’ll be happy the Eurocentric white blonde woman is utilizing their culture for branding (not sarcasm by the way) She sounds dumb but there is nuance that I’m not sure Americans quite grasp yet. She very clearly is not doing anything maliciously nor is the end result offensive. It just feels a bit like that one white girl who tells everyone she must be part African because she has curly hair Edited January 13, 2023 by brooklyndaddy
Pheromosa Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 10 hours ago, brooklyndaddy said: I don’t know where I stand on this. Because if you ask Japanese people in Japan how they feel I’m sure they’ll be happy the Eurocentric white blonde woman is utilizing their culture for branding (not sarcasm by the way) If they like it, I love it
duybeeGAshantiGA Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 On 1/11/2023 at 12:29 AM, PoisonPill said: Most people don't cater their every thought and word around how jobless strangers on the internet might react? People who have actually seen the world and other ways of life know that there is beauty in appreciating and honoring our differences. Gwen knows she isn't ethnically Japanese - she grew up immersed in Japanese culture and developed a deep appreciation for it. It's cool that she represented some of that in her music and imagery and helped expose US audiences to other cultures. This
Into The Void Posted January 14, 2023 Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 11:16 AM, Mr. Blue_Shirt said: Oof she's about to give another LAMB 2.0 finally! YES!
Giancor Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/11/2023 at 7:29 AM, GwennyGwenGwen said: Honestly, my biggest problem with the article is that it was a 32 minute interview... and we got like 3 short Gwen quotes lol... So there's no way to understand the full context of the silly eye catching quote. Cause the thing is...I don't actually think Gwen is simply "out of touch" or "tone deaf" or needing a better publicist etc...I think what often gets missed is that for better or worse she's actually quite passionate and resolute in her belief that cultures are meant to be shared and traded and mirrored back and forth etc, and that that actually brings us closer together and is a positive thing. It's very much a part of the ethos of the ska music and ska scene she grew up in, and if's clearly something that has stuck with her and that she's not backing down from. Exactly!
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