MusicFan98 Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 Also, you all realize both IVE and LSF had the Izone advantage, Wonyoung, Sakura, Chaewon and Yujin had fans before re debuting, only Aespa and NewJennies started with 0 known members lol, also congrats to StayC for smashing even though they came from a small company. 1 1
Sugden Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Sept said: Ive only debuted one year later than Aespa please With that logic we should never compare the 3rd gen groups either cuz RV debuted 2 years earlier than BP. And IVE had had 4 physical releases so far compared to aespa's 3. And we see from all the groups that their sales increased from a release to the next one also does this only work for aespa cause didnt gidle debut before all of them? 1
Dialamba Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, the good guy_duh said: Liz outsings an opera-trained Yunjin from LeSserafim? Be fr. However, Liz is the only one non-underdeveloped vocalist from her group (Yujin is a great stylistic vocalist with poor vocal technique but she's improving) and Gidle as a whole are vocally stronger than IVE. Miyeon arguably is on the same level as Liz while Yuqi beats the rest of IVE members with ease. Stayc unfortunately are not good singers, so they would be behind Gidle but in no time they should be close to NewJeans, because they only have 3 weak vocalists while Gidle 4 (if you include Soojin). Yunjin is a GREAT opera-trained vocalist, close-to-being/on the same level as WINTER from aespa. And I was ranking groups as a whole, not single members. In that case, Liz=Miyeon>NewJeans, sure I guess Mina dances better than Lisa because she’s a ballet dancer ???? Liz has proved multiple times to be a great singer, she’s always stable and hit the notes rights. Yunjin is fine but is not touching Liz. im sorry but I can’t take your ranking seriously when you say Stayc is weak vocally then say NJ is better overall than LSR and IVE
BTS Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, Sept said: Non-subjective 4th gen rankings (based on their latest releases) ALBUM SALES 1. aespa (gap) 2. IVE 3. LSRF 4. NewJeans 5. G-IDLE 6. ITZY 7. NMIXX DOMESTIC CHARTS 1. IVE 2. NewJeans (gap) 3. LSRF 4. aespa / G-IDLE (massive gap) 6. NMIXX 7. ITZY SPOTIFY STREAMS 1. NewJeans (gap) 2. IVE / LSRF 4. G-IDLE 5. aespa 6. ITZY 7. NMIXX ITZY truly fell off on all metrics G-idle are definitely above LSFM in charts domestically. They have 5 Top10s (including 2 #1s)
Sugden Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 aespa sells more because they have a bigger fanbase in china, it has nothing to do with debuting before them
Rhythm Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, LuneMon said: I will never understand why aespa stans think it is fair to compare their physical sales to newjeans or ive sales when they debuted in 2020. It is like comparing stray kids/txt last albums sales to ZB1 first album. aespa's first physical release was literally a month before IVE debuted. Not to mention the fact that aespa has less releases than they do. The case of who debuted before whom is a lazy measurement regardless when you have newer groups coming up much later and outselling the likes of Idle and ITZY, for example (not denouncing either) with far less seniority. So why wouldn't MYs glorify the fact that they're the strongest of the gen in that metric? 12 1
Kety Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, LuneMon said: I will never understand why aespa stans think it is fair to compare their physical sales to newjeans or ive sales when they debuted in 2020. It is like comparing stray kids/txt last albums sales to ZB1 first album. Both LSFM and IVE benefited A LOT from Izone cyst they are technically aespa SENIORs like Sakura has been active 7 years prior to her debut with LSFM
Dialamba Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sept said: G-IDLE is like the Mamamoo of 4th gen tbh. Hits after hits but doesn't seem to have a very dedicated fanbase which gonna support them in a long way. Like remember how Yes I Am and As If It's Your Last being released on the same day and the former used to stomp the latter on all charts? They sold one million albums. Like 4 years ago they were struggling to pass 100k sales ???? Also they have a huge fanbase in china. Yuqi and Shuhua are stars there. 7 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said: Also, you all realize both IVE and LSF had the Izone advantage, Wonyoung, Sakura, Chaewon and Yujin had fans before re debuting, only Aespa and NewJennies started with 0 known members lol, also congrats to StayC for smashing even though they came from a small company. You would think aespa is from a nugu company. Be fr. NJ’s debut recorded 500k pre orders sales… Edited May 18, 2023 by Dialamba
Adama Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, the good guy_duh said: 4th gen vocals: Nmixx>>aespa>>>>>>>>>baemon>>>LeSserafim>NewJeans>>>>>>>Gidle>>>>>>>>>IVE>Itzy. First two groups have no underdeveloped singers, compared to baemon, so the gap is big. No one from NJ, Gidle, IVE and Itzy has a stronger vocalist than Yunjin. Both Lily and Haewon are vocally better than Ningning. Ranking new jeans above G idle and IVE is certainly a choice! The only capable vocalist in this group is Hanni and even her can’t outsing Miyeon and Liz lbfr Edited May 18, 2023 by Adama
hallucinate Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) album sales have become such a boring discussion topic tbh out of all the metrics, digital charts is the most fun to follow spotify numbers are only interesting for the first two weeks, i forgot about them after that but that could be due to me not using the app Edited May 18, 2023 by hallucinate 1 1
playboi Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, hallucinate said: album sales have become such a boring discussion topic tbh I thought I was the only one Each time a big group has a cb they beat the record, it's not even surprising anymore Edited May 18, 2023 by playboi
illia Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 I hate Queencard but miss Soyeon still ate that lil one thing A girl wearing whatever (Girl) Queenca-ca-card A girl who's thin or thick (Girl) Queenca-ca-card A girl full of confidence (Girl) Queenca-ca-card I am a queencard You wanna be the queencard? 1
Asscatchem Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 we need to praise twice as the OG organic album sellers. they were outselling every other gg and breaking snsd records. no one was touching them for years. but nowadays everyone is touching each other, clearing 1m+ with ease, it's not even a standout phenomenon like how twice had it. it has more to do with the industry as a whole growing rather than how special the particular artist is. 4 5
WeFoundWill Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 The Blackpink in game purchases are insanely expensive get that bag!
Witnessed ET Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, BTS said: G-idle are definitely above LSFM in charts domestically. They have 5 Top10s (including 2 #1s) Why are they so overlooked in this site I can’t
Witnessed ET Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 Anyway IM A KWINKA IM A KWINKA TAKE A PHOTO IM A KWINKA IM A KWINKA 2
katyberry Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 Spicy was for the Korean charts (which they are topping) and next comeback will be the international domination
Pluto6 Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) In case y'all wondered about album sales, these are all the 4th gen groups who has sold 1M+ with at least 1 album so far: Girl groups: - aespa - IVE - LE SSERAFIM - NewJeans - GIDLE - ITZY Boy groups: - SKZ - TXT - ENHYPEN - ATEEZ - The next groups I see joining the million seller club are probably TREASURE and NMIXX. - Only SKZ and TXT have an album surpassing 2M sales among 4th gen so far. - SKZ are the only 4th gen act to sell 3M with an album. Edited May 18, 2023 by Pluto2022
fauxtography Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: These are all the 4th gen groups who has sold 1M+ with at least 1 album so far: Girl groups: - aespa - IVE - LE SSERAFIM - NewJeans - GIDLE - ITZY Boy groups: - SKZ - TXT - ENHYPEN - ATEEZ - The next groups I see joining the million seller club are probably TREASURE and NMIXX. - Only SKZ and TXT have an album surpassing 2M sales among 4th gen so far. - SKZ are the only 4th gen act to sell 3M with an album. undeserved
Chemist Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, hallucinate said: album sales have become such a boring discussion topic tbh out of all the metrics, digital charts is the most fun to follow spotify numbers are only interesting for the first two weeks, i forgot about them after that but that could be due to me not using the app Right, album sales in Korea are purely fan driven. Ateez has a big fanbase too. No one gives a sh*t
Pluto6 Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) The fact that YG is letting ATEEZ who's from a nugu company outdo TREASURE like that. YG should honestly just stop debuting boy groups and just become a gg company at this point. Edited May 18, 2023 by Pluto2022
Asscatchem Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 the biggest kii.... like she really thought she could go up against thee jennie kim
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