fan base K-Pop Thread: 2023 Archive

[Save-Me-Oprah]

1 hour ago, Mitsuki said:

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The concept itself is cringe. Imagine paying for someone you don't even know and have nothing to talk about to talk to you 

they get like 60 seconds

 

"I LOVE YOU SO MUCH YOU CHANGED MY LIFE I'D HAVE SEWER SIDED IF I HADN'T HEARD S-CLASS YOU LOOK BEAUTIFUL CAN YOU GIVE ME AEYGO OKAY BYE"

 

 

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[Mitsuki]

6 minutes ago, Sept said:

Daily ULs (Unique Listeners):

 

LYW: 175M

IVE: 177M

GI: 121M

 

You can't blame that people are actually streaming LYW + he has more songs charting than the others 

 

LYW has a big fanbase, but he also has substantial GP support. There's a big difference between being around top 10 (LYW) vs N/A in top 100 (Stray Kidz)

 

LYW is #5 on Gallup 2022 (on par with NJs) which means the GP actually aware and knows who he is

 

Same can't be said about SKZ or any boygroups who can't manage to chart on Melon

But I've never said he is unknown, his fandom doesn't exist or is small. But It's a well known fact there's a strong fandom support to manipulate the charts that makes he chart higher, longer and having more cumulative streams and downloads that he would have only with organic digitals.

 

And It's possible simple cause your statement that Melon totally eliminate fandom power's manipulation is incorrent. They might filter and make it harder than It was now, but so does most official charts in the world within their own rules. 

 

So I don't know what you tried to achieve with your shady comment here. 

[Odette Violet]

8 hours ago, gigantopithecus said:

We're doing beer generations now? Can't wait for the 5th gen beer leader to be announced

 

 This is only the beginning of Hurricane Karina

[Save-Me-Oprah]

1 hour ago, Darkling said:

In this house we only stan SINGERS 

 

 

this was cute

 

Ricky actually serving vocals 

 

[Eternium]

2 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

But I've never said he is unknown, his fandom doesn't exist or is small. But It's a well known fact there's a strong fandom support to manipulate the charts that makes he chart higher, longer and having more cumulative streams and downloads that he would have only with organic digitals.

 

And It's possible simple cause your statement that Melon totally eliminate fandom power's manipulation is incorrent. They might filter and make it harder than It was now, but so does most official charts in the world within their own rules. 

 

So I don't know what you tried to achieve with your shady comment here. 

I think what you girls are missing is that it is Circle who eliminates fan manipulation. Yes, male artist stans seem to be able to still manage to manipulate one or two weeks on the charts, but they invest a ton of money into it and it takes so many unique accounts and people that I don’t find it unfair in the slightest.

 

I just wish Billboard would do the same, but they seem intent on including fraudulent streams. Like nobody in America believes Drake is an organic success at all.

[Dialamba]

9 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

But I've never said he is unknown, his fandom doesn't exist or is small. But It's a well known fact there's a strong fandom support to manipulate the charts that makes he chart higher, longer and having more cumulative streams and downloads that he would have only with organic digitals.

 

And It's possible simple cause your statement that Melon totally eliminate fandom power's manipulation is incorrent. They might filter and make it harder than It was now, but so does most official charts in the world within their own rules. 

 

So I don't know what you tried to achieve with your shady comment here. 

Melon filters the charts but only daily charts and 24hits charts not for melon top 100 but they can’t 100% every ULS if his fans stream every hours. 

[Odette Violet]

 

Winning as group and as solos 

 

 

[Mitsuki]

4 minutes ago, Eternium said:

I think what you girls are missing is that it is Circle who eliminates fan manipulation. Yes, male artist stans seem to be able to still manage to manipulate one or two weeks on the charts, but they invest a ton of money into it and it takes so many unique accounts and people that I don’t find it unfair in the slightest.

 

I just wish Billboard would do the same, but they seem intent on including fraudulent streams. Like nobody in America believes Drake is an organic success at all.

It's very hard to totally eliminate fradulence. Not only on MelOn, but everywhere. Billboard does "their best" to prevent fandom power's manipulation, maximizing Airplay's weight, weighted-down ad-supported streams to give more power to premium streams, minimized digital sales' weight, removed D2C etc). But they still can't filter Label Records' manipulation (playlisting, Discovery Mode, Airplay etc). 

 

Digital can't never be 100% organic anywhere. 

 

To be honest, I think the closer to an organic metric we have is Touring. And even this, Labels can manipulate - to a lesser extent, but can - covering up actual attendance reporting the amount of tickets sold were the tickets available to pretend It's 'sold out'. 

[supertiffany]

the Jennie chanel style of dress

 

 

 

it seems YG is pushing her to be the center now, it just means Ahyeon is kicked out and won't be back anymore

 

 

[Pikachu]

 

adabana's impact

[Save-Me-Oprah]

 

this still cracks me up

 

[illia]

22 minutes ago, supertiffany said:

it seems YG is pushing her to be the center now,

Oh as they should 

[Ryan]

Welcome back @Mel.

[supertiffany]

12 minutes ago, Flomik said:

Oh as they should 

why u hate ahyeon?

[Dialamba]

 

the big3 

[illia]

2 minutes ago, supertiffany said:

why u hate ahyeon?

I don't, I just like Ruka more 

[Queenyoncee]

2 hours ago, Mitsuki said:

That's why Lim Young-woong won Artist of the Year and Album of the Year on Melon Music Awards last edition 

Not only does he have hits, but he is also known to the public and has a big fan base

 

The biggest Kpop Groups always had both: BTS, EXO, SNSD, BP and few more 

Edited November 21, 2023 by Queenyoncee

[xrosup]

17 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

FINALLY!
They debuted higher than what was predicted btw  

 

 

17 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

JYP having 3 acts charting on Hot 100 and all 3 of them being from different generations as well is kinda iconic: 

 

2nd gen: Wonder Girls

3rd gen: TWICE

4th gen: Stray Kids

 

 

17 hours ago, Mitsuki said:

They won, mr. Pluto

 

 

 

 

 

Stray Kids will always win. Trust.

 

[Mitsuki]

1 minute ago, Queenyoncee said:

He has not only hits but is also known among the public + he has a big fanbase 

 

The biggest Kpop Groups always had both: BTS, EXO, SNSD, BP and few more 

 

1 hour ago, Mitsuki said:

But I've never said he is unknown, his fandom doesn't exist or is small. But It's a well known fact there's a strong fandom support to manipulate the charts that makes he chart higher, longer and having more cumulative streams and downloads that he would have only with organic digitals.

 

And It's possible simple cause your statement that Melon totally eliminate fandom power's manipulation is incorrent. They might filter and make it harder than It was now, but so does most official charts in the world within their own rules. 

 

So I don't know what you tried to achieve with your shady comment here. 

 

[Odette Violet]

11 hours ago, Eternium said:

 

Love Taeyeon but her mini titles are never her most commercial. I don’t expect the song nor video to be even half as good as “Drama.” But she’ll probably serve MOTY and outdo “MY World.”

I highly doubt she'll outdo My World, she kinda  already won AOTY last year with INVU quality wise. MPG taeyeon has to rest a bit

 

 

I'm ready for another Yawn  

[Queenyoncee]

IU so high without comeback 

Nation‘s Center Yoona serving longevity 
 

 

Edited November 21, 2023 by Queenyoncee

[Pluto6]

3 hours ago, Mitsuki said:

Their career will be always iconic for me 

 

How they manage to get 44 million streams globally in a week to chart on Billboard Global 200 Top 10, but can't get mere 150k (?) Or less uls on Melon to get a Top 10 on Korea 

 

It always makes me think "wow, there's really a big world out there for them" 

SKZ getting a hit on MelOn won’t really change their career trajectory as much , as you have mentioned before, cause with the way they are already selling out the biggest domes in Korea, and the way Korean media talks about them, you would think they are a group with multiple PAKs already, cause a lot of the chart topping groups can’t even sell out KSPO dome etc.

 

Edited November 21, 2023 by Pluto2022

[Queenyoncee]

3 hours ago, Mel. said:

 

 

Welcome back 

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Babymonster will flop, I wish them the best