Save-Me-Oprah Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fanta said: i’m so hype to see what lsrfm is going to deliver because they’ve yet to drop a project with a single skip. Do we have a tracklisting/credits for their album yet? I hope Yunjin writes all of them, the talent, the quality
Fadedlights Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, fauxtography said: song is a bop, but omg poor girl who was given the XL basketball shorts Once again their company showing how much they hate Bahiyyih On a side note I finished listened to IVE's album and solidly feel 6/11 of them which is pretty good in my book as I usually don't vibe with a lot of kpop bsides. But man I can't imagine them singing these songs live. Backtrack and pre recorded vocals will be saving them. It just sucks how they can have good music, but probably can't do these songs justice live.
aesthetic bih Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 13 hours ago, Asscatchem said: i just realized, isn't "IVE" the same name as "ITZY"? like the meanings are identical IVE = I HAVE ITZY = I GOT IT You're onto something
Fanta Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Save-Me-Oprah said: Do we have a tracklisting/credits for their album yet? I hope Yunjin writes all of them, the talent, the quality track list is coming on the 18th.
Pluto6 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 4th gen competition is so intense! How would y’all rank the top 10 most popular and successful 4th gen groups in general? Both girl groups and boy groups included Edited April 11, 2023 by Pluto2022
Adama Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: 4th gen competition is so intense! How would y’all rank the top 10 most popular and successful 4th gen groups? Both girl groups and Boy groups included The problem is that the ranking totally change depending which metrics we choose. Physical Sales? Digitals points? Spotify streams? YouTube views? Star power? C bars? Tik tok? Touring? Edited April 11, 2023 by Adama
Pluto6 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Adama said: The problem is that the ranking totally change depending which metrics we choose. Physical Sales? Digitals points? Spotify streams? YouTube views? Star power? Instagram? Everything combined
perfillusion Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Hypnosis and Blue Blood are so good IVE are immune from Bad music
PerfectSacrifice Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Everything combined Well boy groups and girl groups compete on completely different lanes so it’s very hard to compare them. Like bgs just generally do well in sales, touring and voting, ggs have their advantages in kcharts/streaming/individual popularity and stuff It’s very difficult to say which metrics are more important
CandyCoatedClouds Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Ive's new album is pretty good as yet, Kitsch is still my favorite. Something about that chorus just does it for me.
Chemist Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 We need her to start getting the same success as the other IZ*ONE girls
DelRey Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: 4th gen competition is so intense! How would y’all rank the top 10 most popular and successful 4th gen groups in general? Both girl groups and boy groups included 1. IVE 2. Aespa 3. Stray Kids 4. New Jeans 5. LesSerafim 6. TxT 7. G Idle 8. Enhypen 9. Itzy 10. StayC
perfillusion Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Burqa said: Giddy is a shameless FEARLESS rip off omg Wait I see it Mnet will NEVER have another IZ*ONE
Pluto6 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, DelRey said: 1. IVE 2. Aespa 3. Stray Kids 4. New Jeans 5. LesSerafim 6. TxT 7. G Idle 8. Enhypen 9. Itzy 10. StayC The groups mentioned are correct except for StayC, since NMIXX, TREASURE and ATEEZ are bigger than them. However the order you made is a little bit controversial
Mel. Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 TREASURE’s Japanese single “Here I Stand” certified platinum in only 5 days
fais_2311 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Hay Amores said: It’s so rare to see album sales decline except for nugu group like Purple Kiss last comeback. Tragic. So many fans decide to stop bulk buying. And even the photocard collectors too were turned off by the popularity different between the members. People only looking to buy and trade photocard for these 3 only; Xiaoting, Bahiyyih & Chaehyun. I chose not to buy their album too this time. I have so many Hikaru, Yeseo, Dayeon, Youngeun, Mashiro photocards to trade for Bahiyyih & Xiaoting but no one want these members Zero fun at all unlike collecting for Lesserafim. Every members are in demand. I’m so surprised Eunchae is so popular. I thought no one will want to trade or buy her photocards. I was so wrong. Main Kpop Toddler
Pluto6 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, fais_2311 said: Tragic. So many fans decide to stop bulk buying. And even the photocard collectors too were turned off by the popularity different between the members. People only looking to buy and trade photocard for these 3 only; Xiaoting, Bahiyyih & Chaehyun. I chose not to buy their album too this time. I have so many Hikaru, Yeseo, Dayeon, Youngeun, Mashiro photocards to trade for Bahiyyih & Xiaoting but no one want these members Zero fun at all unlike collecting for Lesserafim. Every members are in demand. I’m so surprised Eunchae is so popular. I thought no one will want to trade or buy her photocards. I was so wrong. Main Kpop Toddler Wait isn't Hikaru and Dayola also popular?
fais_2311 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Pluto2022 said: since NMIXX, TREASURE and ATEEZ are bigger than them. sis bye. Stayc might not have huge physical sales like those groups but they performed billion miles better digitally than those flops. Overall, still better than the other 3.
Mel. Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, DelRey said: 1. IVE 2. Aespa 3. Stray Kids 4. New Jeans 5. LesSerafim 6. TxT 7. G Idle 8. Enhypen 9. Itzy 10. StayC I don’t really follow any of these groups, but I don’t think Aespa is top 2 anymore. I feel like they’ve been bumped down to at least top 4 just basing off this list. I think NJ and LSFM are above them now if we’re talking domestically and I would put SKZ above them internationally so I would say Aespa are at #5 right now going by your list
Mel. Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: The groups mentioned are correct except for StayC, since NMIXX, TREASURE and ATEEZ are bigger than them. However the order you made is a little bit controversial Domestically STAYC is above them, but internationally TREASURE & ATEEZ are definitely above them, not sure about NMIXX tho
Pluto6 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, fais_2311 said: sis bye. Stayc might not have huge physical sales like those groups but they performed billion miles better digitally than those flops. Overall, still better than the other 3. STAYC only has digitals over them while they have album sales + touring + streams over STAYC, soooo?
Mel. Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) But I will say tho lol i just saw that NMIXX has crossed 800k with their recent release and I’m sorry, but something is just so fishy about their sales and has been from the beginning. When I tell you I don’t see ANYONE talking about them outside of this thread. Where are all those sales coming from? and y’all told me they would decline losing Jinni, it seems like the opposite has happened lol Edited April 11, 2023 by Mel.
fais_2311 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Pluto2022 said: Wait isn't Hikaru and Dayola also popular? Not really. I’m struggling to trade their photocards sis. I have lot of them. I even sell the photocards for very cheap price and can ship globally but no one want them I used to think Hikaru was really popular too but I guess for the photocard collectors, visual is the main factor for them to collect a member
newaespa Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Why is BP the only gg that outsell GIRLS after a year? they are definitely in top 3 gen4 group
Adama Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Everything combined It’s hard, all I know it’s that these groups are the top 4th groups: Stray kids, IVE , Newjeans , Aespa, Txt , LSRFM, G idle, Enhypen,Itzy, Stayc, Nmixx,Treasure . Some people will rank them based on their physicals sales : Stray kids and Aespa, based on their spotify streams New Jeans and Stray kids based on their digitals points: IVE and New jeans, based on YouTube views: Stray kids and Itzy based on China: Aespa and G idle, base on Japan: Stray kids,Txt based on touring: Stray kids and Treasure Some will based their ranking on groups overall talents: NMIXX
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