GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted December 10, 2022 Author Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wicked said: No, it's not. What the hell is this silly ass post. She makes R&B music, it's that simple and it's not limiting at all. This site never fails SZA is an “MPG”; ‘Main Pop Girl’. What exactly are you trying to argue? Aretha Franklin was one of the biggest, most successful and most acclaimed Soul/R&B artists of the 1970’s. Does that mean she doesn’t belong in the same conversation as Barbra Streisand, Olivia Newton-John, Linda Ronstadt, Karen Carpenter, Carole King, Carly Simon etc. just because she wasn’t a Pop-centric artist like the aforementioned? They were all huge in their own way and not separated by musical style. Nobody said that SZA wasn’t an R&B act but as @MingYouToo said, the term “MPG” refers to how big a commercial force said female artist may be, irrespective of genre. Also, SZA has literally featured on Pop songs such as “What Lovers Do, Kiss Me More” and has a GRAMMY win in the Pop category. Edited December 10, 2022 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto
Wicked Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: SZA is an “MPG”; ‘Main Pop Girl’. What exactly are you trying to argue? Aretha Franklin was one of the biggest, most successful and most acclaimed Soul/R&B artists of the 1970’s. Does that mean she doesn’t belong in the same conversation as Barbra Streisand, Olivia Newton-John, Linda Ronstadt, Karen Carpenter, Carole King, Carly Simon etc. just because she wasn’t a Pop-centric artist like the aforementioned? They were all huge in their own way and not separated by musical style. Nobody said that SZA wasn’t an R&B act but as @MingYouToo said, the term “MPG” refers to how big a commercial force said female artist may be, irrespective of genre. Y'all being selectively dense on genre labeling especially in the context of how the terms are used on this site doesn't make your point good. R&B is not a limiting descriptor. There is no need to "forego" R&B as a descriptor and suggesting it is just general biased held against it, R&B artists of different subgenres have been discussing this since "PBR&B" started being used in the 2010s. Suddenly if an R&B does better than expected they shouldn't be labeled as such anymore, why? Reread that person's post.
liquiddiamonds Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) Summer’s Over It is about to cross 3x Platinum in the US. Only Taylor, Olivia Rodrigo and Adele were able to do it since that album dropped, but ATRL and its short-sighted Main Pop Girl label, in which someone has to be big in Lituania to be considered that, are not ready for this convo. SZA and Summer are already iconic. They move more copies and their singles are as certified as number one smashes in the long haul (sometimes even performing better than quick #1s) Edited December 10, 2022 by liquiddiamonds
Cloröx Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, Billionaire said: nnn and we were saying Summer Walker replaced her last year HUGE numbers for a black female artist who doesn't really do pop. They tried
professor2000 Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 “Drew Barrymore”, “Prom”, “Nobody Gets Me” etc etc are Pop songs too. She dabbles on Pop as well. Just sayin… OT:
Sweet Sexy Savage Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 Inch resting since this album feels like a Over It meets SOUR so i don’t consider it traditional or contemporary R&B
Ms. Togekiss Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 She outstreamed everyone but Taylor and tun oh wow
liquiddiamonds Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 The whole top 10 in both Apple Music US and Spotify US. Monster album
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted December 10, 2022 Author Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) Edited December 10, 2022 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto
Armani? Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 3 hours ago, liquiddiamonds said: Summer’s Over It is about to cross 3x Platinum in the US. Only Taylor, Olivia Rodrigo and Adele were able to do it since that album dropped, but ATRL and its short-sighted Main Pop Girl label, in which someone has to be big in Lituania to be considered that, are not ready for this convo. SZA and Summer are already iconic. They move more copies and their singles are as certified as number one smashes in the long haul (sometimes even performing better than quick #1s) Over It is already eligible for 3X Platinum
KatyPrismSpirit Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 Biggest first-day stream debuts for female albums on Spotify in HISTORY: #1 Midnights 185.6M #2 RED (Taylor's Version) 90.8M #3 folklore 80.6M #4 thank u, next 70.2M #5 SOS 68.2M #6 evermore 67.4M #7 SOUR 63.2M #8 30 60.9M #9 positions 58.7M #10 Lover 54.8M
makeme Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: Biggest first-day stream debuts for female albums on Spotify in HISTORY: #1 Midnights 185.6M #2 RED (Taylor's Version) 90.8M #3 folklore 80.6M #4 thank u, next 70.2M #5 SOS 68.2M #6 evermore 67.4M #7 SOUR 63.2M #8 30 60.9M #9 positions 58.7M #10 Lover 54.8M OMG SMASH SZA
Machete Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 The thread on here 2 weeks ago that asked “Bigger: Selena vs. SZA” that was full of people saying Selena Never change ATRL…
fridayteenage Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 i wonder what t10s she'll get, with xmas taking up so much space
Iridesence Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 Wait I forgot about this thread, sorry for creating another one mods
makeme Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Machete said: The thread on here 2 weeks ago that asked “Bigger: Selena vs. SZA” that was full of people saying Selena Never change ATRL… I was just getting ready to bump that thread
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted December 10, 2022 Author Posted December 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Machete said: The thread on here 2 weeks ago that asked “Bigger: Selena vs. SZA” that was full of people saying Selena Never change ATRL… 1 minute ago, makeme said: I was just getting ready to bump that thread Please do.
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