charts discussion TOTC: Anti-Hero to stay at #1

[Stan.killah]

48 minutes ago, georgechxng said:

One is not like the other. The difference is that this was EOM’s 10th week at #1 and Adele wasn’t pulling any antics to make up for the difference of streams between the two songs EOM just had 3 months of radio play and positive callouts to balance it out but she wasn’t moving a finger to try to lock the top spot.

THIS

 

Taylor/Swifties can't say the same about their song and that's bothering them to the core and it's sad now 

[Hunter_13]

Good. 

[PoisonedIvy]

7 minutes ago, Marvin said:

 

 

She was OUT at the end of week, but still had enough from the first few days to do 26m streams. The Hot 100 doesn’t care about longevity throughout the week so its chart position on Thursday is largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Regardless, why are multiple streams of the same song a problem but multiple sales (even if released as a “remix”) completely fine? 
 

Let’s also not act like Taylor hasn’t done the digital covers either. She has. Which is why it’s so funny to see how Swifties (not necessarily you) defend her when she manipulates the chart but drags other artists when they do it. Literally hypocrites

I can’t speak for the hypocritical Swifties, they invite the drags. But for the H100, it’s made up of 3 components. Drake is overperforming in 1, underperforming in 2. Taylor is performing great in 2, and overperforming in 1. Sounds like a better average to me.  
 

But anyways I never drag other artists for caring about their careers. Y’all can drag the Swifties that do though I’m not here to defend them, just Taylor.  

[EndofASadMovie]

Taylor won, atrl lost. Another reality check for this forum. 

[inmymendes]

@unclefloprry your girl is #1 for a third week!!! 

[PoisonedIvy]

7 minutes ago, omrimayo said:

But really how do we know she sold 140K from her store?! I mean this amount is beyond this world!

I'm now afraid for week 4, he is still having 15 (!) songs above her on AM and still quite a lead on Spotify, how the hell she's gonna do it on week 4?

Her radio lead will be enough and his streams won’t be -as- high as they were this week. She should be fine. The album should return to #1 too.

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

Like you guys seriously need to touch grass. 

it's true and you should say it.

 

OT:  

[RobynYoBank]

The Music Industry serving the era we needed but don’t deserve 

[yonsé]

9 minutes ago, VOSS said:

It’s so funny to me that these artists have the billboard charts on their minds constantly

its their job.

 

do you not pay attention to your performance at your job?

[pride4jc1222]

To be fair, though, the week that Easy On Me topped the chart with less than 15M streams while WDTAB had over 32M streams, people were calling EOM (as well as Stay) radio driven payola.

[PoisonedIvy]

5 minutes ago, yonsé said:

its their job.

 

do you not pay attention to your performance at your job?

I fear most of them don’t have jobs, they’re terminally online 

[PoisonedIvy]

3 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said:

To be fair, though, the week that Easy On Me topped the chart with less than 15M streams while WDTAB had over 32M streams, people were calling EOM (as well as Stay) radio driven payola.

And those people were wrong. If people want a streaming only chart… billboard releases one. But the Hot 100 combines sales, streams, and radio. You can’t just exceed in one category while underperforming in the other 2 and have people feel like you’re entitled to the #1 spot. 

[Dula Peep]

at least Drake with his half ass attempted of retreading the same song over and over is getting blocked so congrats on that 

[Azulito]

1 minute ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

And those people were wrong. If people want a streaming only chart… billboard releases one. But the Hot 100 combines sales, streams, and radio. You can’t just exceed in one category while underperforming in the other 2 and have people feel like you’re entitled to the #1 spot. 

Interesting. So are you saying someone shouldn't be able to occupy the entire top 10 based on streaming alone?

[PoisonedIvy]

1 minute ago, Marvin said:

Interesting. So are you saying someone shouldn't be able to occupy the entire top 10 based on streaming alone?

No i personallly think if your streams are doing to enough outperform 10 songs earning points from 3 metrics I think you earned those spots.
 

And if you lost out on a spot because you’re excelling in one category but underperforming in the others, that’s just the luck of the draw. 
 

Drake happens to have 8 songs earning enough streams alone to go top 10. That’s great. He earned that. But Anti Hero is earning enough streams and sales AND airplay to remain #1. That’s great too. She earned that as well, in my eyes.  

[Finkypop]

23 minutes ago, inmymendes said:

@unclefloprry your girl is #1 for a third week!!! 

 

OT: the stomping 

[yonsé]

15 minutes ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

I fear most of them don’t have jobs, they’re terminally online 

shriek! you're not wrong 

[gatito]

31 minutes ago, omrimayo said:

But really how do we know she sold 140K from her store?! I mean this amount is beyond this world!

I'm now afraid for week 4, he is still having 15 (!) songs above her on AM and still quite a lead on Spotify, how the hell she's gonna do it on week 4?

she should drop a megan remix and turn off her phone 

[Azulito]

1 minute ago, WeFoundTrouble said:

No i personallly think if your streams are doing to enough outperform 10 songs earning points from 3 metrics I think you earned those spots.
 

And if you lost out on a spot because you’re excelling in one category but underperforming in the others, that’s just the luck of the draw. 
 

Drake happens to have 8 songs earning enough streams alone to go top 10. That’s great. He earned that. But Anti Hero is earning enough streams and sales AND airplay to remain #1. That’s great too. She earned that as well, in my eyes.  

Sure, but she's only earning enough sales because of cheap tricks. If she would be blocking Drake because her song was genuinely the most popular song of the week, then sure she would've earned it. But she's only blocking him because she released 4 (5?) remixes in the last few days knowing that her fanbase would buy them. If the remixes were truly popular, they'd be doing something on streaming and they aren't. These are just the facts.

 

Going forward, there are two things I think Billboard should change.

 

1) Only allow sales from actual retailers (iTunes, Amazon, etc). The Global 200 already works like this so it would make sense for the Hot 100 to have this rule as well.

2) Don't count any versions/remixes that are released midweek. If you release a song on Friday, any remix released later in the week will only be valid for the following Friday and afterwards.

 

#1 alone would probably stop this mess since it's way harder to buy multiple copies on iTunes but #2 would also prevent something like an artist releasing 10+ remixes in a week to make up for the fact that you can't purchase 4 copies per order on D2C websites.

[B-Luke]

Block the pasty Christmas songs next  to be fair though, I would‘ve loved to see RF at #1 this week

[ClashAndBurn]

Tbh, I’m not mad about this if it means that Drake doesn’t get rewarded with a number one after his subliminal attack on Megan.

[hector.adriel]

3 hours ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

Claiming what's hers? Her song was #1 for 2 weeks already and she's not entitled to stay number one. the world does not revolve around this white women and other people are allowed to do as they please. You think because she's releasing, no one should release anything for the next 4 weeks or something???

If she wants to release 1,000 remixes and versions of the song it’s her f*cking right to do so. People are not held at gunpoint to consume or buy them. Drake is getting held

back at #2, as he deserves. SEETHE.

[OrgVisual]

12 minutes ago, Marvin said:

Sure, but she's only earning enough sales because of cheap tricks. If she would be blocking Drake because her song was genuinely the most popular song of the week, then sure she would've earned it. But she's only blocking him because she released 4 (5?) remixes in the last few days knowing that her fanbase would buy them. If the remixes were truly popular, they'd be doing something on streaming and they aren't. These are just the facts.

 

Going forward, there are two things I think Billboard should change.

 

1) Only allow sales from actual retailers (iTunes, Amazon, etc). The Global 200 already works like this so it would make sense for the Hot 100 to have this rule as well.

2) Don't count any versions/remixes that are released midweek. If you release a song on Friday, any remix released later in the week will only be valid for the following Friday and afterwards.

 

#1 alone would probably stop this mess since it's way harder to buy multiple copies on iTunes but #2 would also prevent something like an artist releasing 10+ remixes in a week to make up for the fact that you can't purchase 4 copies per order on D2C websites.

This makes sense  The way artists rushed release last minute tactics only after they saw the predictions come out and like "oh snap i need to do something". 

[Tusk]

Her “Old Town Road” is finally here. 

[teenager]

This was desperate/petty of Taylor but considering it's to block Drake maybe I can forgive her