charts discussion Billboard Hot 100 : BMS (-27) about to leave the charts ?

[ClashAndBurn]

7 minutes ago, infrared said:

Hold My Hand did pretty well for a soundtrack single - please take a look at Ms. Carter’s most recent soundtrack outputs - must be a slow day in politics 

How well did Hold My Hand do compared to the song that came from the same movie though? Hmm?

 

Hold My Hand was literally a made-for-radio ballad, while Beyonce's soundtrack singles were anything but. Call when Gaga gets a solo single that does even half as well as Break My Soul. Because she hasn't done it in almost a decade without Bradley Cooper (A list actor) or Ariana Grande saving her from crashing into oblivion on the Bubbling Under  

[Zoomer]

55 minutes ago, Armani? said:

Is that why it averages 10 million streams every week since release?

Playlisting and placements, just like radio, are decreasing at a fast rate after its peak. Exactly what I meant by “shameless payola”. They don’t care that it’s so obvious. 

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

53 minutes ago, slw84 said:

and then drake and 21 savage will appear the following week.

 

It'll be tough for it to make it to 20 weeks with Lil baby, Taylor and Drake/Lil baby album bombs.

Right. She could've narrowly made 20 weeks by being in the mid-70s in week 20, but it's not happening anymore, unless the song re-enters for two weeks in the middle of November (by which point the effects of the album bombs should've faded).

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

22 minutes ago, Draper. said:

Taylor having almost a 30m audience in 4 days? Harry having up to three songs in power rotation in several stations at the same time for multiple weeks? Doja having 2 songs in power rotation at the same time (and having a new one enter when one of those leaves) in several stations?

 

Do you need more recent examples of "shameless payola"?

Taylor having 30M AI in 4 days is literally due to a radio deal, everyone knows it's paid for.

 

I'll give you Harry and Doja though, very sus that both artists never leave power rotation.

[Armani?]

17 minutes ago, Zoomer said:

Playlisting and placements, just like radio, are decreasing at a fast rate after its peak. Exactly what I meant by “shameless payola”. They don’t care that it’s so obvious. 

So like nearly every other song in the Top 10 this year?

Being in a playlist doesnt guarantee high streams, especially after a few days

[Lose My Breath]

18 minutes ago, Zoomer said:

Playlisting and placements, just like radio, are decreasing at a fast rate after its peak. Exactly what I meant by “shameless payola”. They don’t care that it’s so obvious. 

Why didn't they release the video then, or perform it at the AMAs if they were so concerned?

[Ricky Wilson]

The fact that the hive and radio tried to lead people to believe BMS was a huge global smasha  more smoke and mirrors PR as usual

[Zoomer]

19 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Why didn't they release the video then, or perform it at the AMAs if they were so concerned?

Because they’re not “concerned”, the perks of “payola”. They paid so they wouldn’t have to worry about organic success. 

[Soda Pop Queen]

and what about it? she still made history. Try to shade when or if the other girls get a #1 hit in their 40s. Until then, keep calm and #CUFFIT. 

[Ethereaaal]

2 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said:

How well did Hold My Hand do compared to the song that came from the same movie though? Hmm?

 

Hold My Hand was literally a made-for-radio ballad, while Beyonce's soundtrack singles were anything but. Call when Gaga gets a solo single that does even half as well as Break My Soul. Because she hasn't done it in almost a decade without Bradley Cooper (A list actor) or Ariana Grande saving her from crashing into oblivion on the Bubbling Under  

Not you acting like Beyonce's soundtrack singles are experimental and not fit for radio in any way. Like how is Spirit not radio-friendly? 

 

And not you thinking Bradley Cooper has any musical pull, when his solo songs are undisputedly doing much much worse than Gaga's in the soundtrack.  

 

I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of time before solo songs (album tracks, promotional singles at the most) like ARUTW will outstream BMS. Not to mention that outside of Renaissance, you have 3 Gaga albums (most are solo btw) outstreaming Bey's entire discography. 

 

The lengths y'all will go through to drag Gaga and defend your faves. 

 

Y'all can condemn flamebait threads without bringing up dumb arguments.

Edited October 26, 2022 by Ethereaaal

[infrared]

4 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said:

How well did Hold My Hand do compared to the song that came from the same movie though? Hmm?

 

Hold My Hand was literally a made-for-radio ballad, while Beyonce's soundtrack singles were anything but. Call when Gaga gets a solo single that does even half as well as Break My Soul. Because she hasn't done it in almost a decade without Bradley Cooper (A list actor) or Ariana Grande saving her from crashing into oblivion on the Bubbling Under  

Spirit wasn't made for radio? Be Alive?  Let's not forget the entire Gift album flopped riding the coattails of the Lion King.

let's not do the mental gymnastics tonight. Funny how ya'll look down on features but before 2022,

Beyonce was N/A on the charts unless it was with Megan or Ed for years.

 

 

Million Reasons - #4, reaching 700 m streams, 3x platinum 

Always Remember Us This Way - close to 2 billion streams across all platforms, reaching 1 billion on Spotify 

 

funny how ya'll love to spin this narrative as if she doesn't have solo hits 

 

[Armani?]

6 hours ago, infrared said:

Spirit wasn't made for radio? Be Alive?  Let's not forget the entire Gift album flopped riding the coattails of the Lion King.

let's not do the mental gymnastics tonight. Funny how ya'll look down on features but before 2022,

Beyonce was N/A on the charts unless it was with Megan or Ed for years.

 

 

Million Reasons - #4, reaching 700 m streams, 3x platinum 

Always Remember Us This Way - close to 2 billion streams across all platforms, reaching 1 billion on Spotify 

 

funny how ya'll love to spin this narrative as if she doesn't have solo hits 

 

Before I Let Go spent 1.5X as many weeks on the Hot 100 as Gaga's last lead single

[SelenaGomez<3]

Radio payola 

[slw84]

how did this turn into a gaga vs beyonce stans thing?

 

A song was released during a noncompetitive time...the song rose in the first six weeks with radio play. Stans showed out album release week. Afterwards, the "hit" mysteriously peaked and fell down considerably after album release week...almost as if there was a plan to run up the radio audience numbers so that the stans could do the rest album release week. 

 

Isn't it barely top 90 and has a couple of weeks to go recurrent.

 

Lil baby's 2nd week, Taylor's 1st and 2nd week, Rihanna's song, Drake and 21 savages 1st and possibly 2nd week might push this out before 20 weeks.

 

the song went #1 and served its purpose.

She now has #1 songs and albums in 3 decades amongst the other legends to fit that bill.

A hit for the moment but I wouldn't classify it as a smash hit.

 

[Jude]

Cuff It is gonna avenge the good sis BMS.

[Love4Janet]

Glad more people are waking up to the fact that Beyonce is TANKING this era. 

 

I'm embarrassed for her. Calling herself the Queen and telling everyone else to bow down, but Renaissance still hasn't scanned Platinum 3 months later. Kii

[Armani?]

Just now, Love4Janet said:

Glad more people are waking up to the fact that Beyonce is TANKING this era. 

 

I'm embarrassed for her. Calling herself the Queen and telling everyone else to bow down, but Renaissance still hasn't scanned Platinum 3 months later. Kii

Yet it's still in the Top 10 3 months later, seems like it's doing fine 

[naval23]

8 hours ago, Love4Janet said:

Glad more people are waking up to the fact that Beyonce is TANKING this era. 

 

I'm embarrassed for her. Calling herself the Queen and telling everyone else to bow down, but Renaissance still hasn't scanned Platinum 3 months later. Kii

If scoring a #1 year end top 40 hit and top 3 album three months post release in your 25th year of your career is a flop, I want it (and your fav whoever it is)

[Diocles]

No more payola, yes BOMB 

[GraceRandolph]

What??? How did Beyoncé’s #1, comeback single drop so fast?