Shawn Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 Overseas came in bigger than the original estimates as well (by like 10 million).
Da Vinci Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 Right now, Mario's gross in China is at $11.9M with predictions for a final gross of $21M and it's not doing any better in other Asian countries where Mario games/Nintendo are also huge and iconic Meanwhile, Japan is stanning their own anime movies instead of Hollywood movies/animation (as they should! ) Their top 5 of 2022 had 4 anime movies And now the newly released Detective Conan movie is blowing up and smashing as we speak and will be fierce competition for Mario, taking up most of their screens Minions 2 (the previous Illumination movie) did $32.6M in Japan with fierce competition from the massive One Piece movie released a month after it Interestingly enough, China and South Korea also prefers Japanese anime movies over Western animation with Suzume and The First Slam Dunk both outgrossing Minions 2 in those countries (Suzume grossed $109M in China in less than a month while Minions 2 only did $34.7M overall) So looking at all that data, I would be really surprised if Mario smashes in Japan
MAKSIM Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Da Vinci said: Right now, Mario's gross in China is at $11.9M with predictions for a final gross of $21M and it's not doing any better in other Asian countries where Mario games/Nintendo are also huge and iconic Meanwhile, Japan is stanning their own anime movies instead of Hollywood movies/animation (as they should! ) Their top 5 of 2022 had 4 anime movies And now the newly released Detective Conan movie is blowing up and smashing as we speak and will be fierce competition for Mario, taking up most of their screens Minions 2 (the previous Illumination movie) did $32.6M in Japan with fierce competition from the massive One Piece movie released a month after it Interestingly enough, China and South Korea also prefers Japanese anime movies over Western animation with Suzume and The First Slam Dunk both outgrossing Minions 2 in those countries (Suzume grossed $109M in China in less than a month while Minions 2 only did $34.7M overall) So looking at all that data, I would be really surprised if Mario smashes in Japan You do realize the Mario movie is half funded by a Japanese company….
Da Vinci Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, MAKSIM said: You do realize the Mario movie is half funded by a Japanese company…. What does that have to do with Japanese moviegoers' tastes? The Sonic movies were also funded by a Japanese company and both did only $1M each in Japan (final grosses)
MAKSIM Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Da Vinci said: What does that have to do with Japanese moviegoers' tastes? The Sonic movies were also funded by a Japanese company and both did only $1M each in Japan (final grosses) Because you’re comparing the gross of the creator of the most popular Japanese film ever (Your Name) to extrapolate data for Mario. Like no ****, Japan likes anime. They also have tons of Pixar and Disney animated films in their top films year after year.
Da Vinci Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, MAKSIM said: Because you’re comparing the gross of the creator of the most popular Japanese film ever (Your Name) to extrapolate data for Mario. Like no ****, Japan likes anime. They also have tons of Pixar and Disney animated films in their top films year after year. It's a fact that Mario isn't smashing as hard in Asia as it is in the US/Europe Frozen 2 dropped hard in Japan while anime movies like Demon Slayer, One Piece, etc. broke records whereas pre-2020, it would've been the other way around cause anime movies/sequels never reached Your Name/Ghibli levels before So with that logic, seeing how Mario isn't even outgrossing Minions 2 in Asia, I don't see how Japan will stan it when they're already rejecting Hollywood movies in favor of anime sequels unlike last decade. Avatar 2 straight up bombed there even when that outgrossed Avatar 1 in China for example. And if China prefers anime over Mario, what more for Japan? Like I said, Mario is gonna compete with Detective Conan that's currently smashing. At least Minions 2 had a month to itself before One Piece snatched it.
Japan Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Da Vinci said: Right now, Mario's gross in China is at $11.9M with predictions for a final gross of $21M and it's not doing any better in other Asian countries where Mario games/Nintendo are also huge and iconic Meanwhile, Japan is stanning their own anime movies instead of Hollywood movies/animation (as they should! ) Their top 5 of 2022 had 4 anime movies And now the newly released Detective Conan movie is blowing up and smashing as we speak and will be fierce competition for Mario, taking up most of their screens Minions 2 (the previous Illumination movie) did $32.6M in Japan with fierce competition from the massive One Piece movie released a month after it Interestingly enough, China and South Korea also prefers Japanese anime movies over Western animation with Suzume and The First Slam Dunk both outgrossing Minions 2 in those countries (Suzume grossed $109M in China in less than a month while Minions 2 only did $34.7M overall) So looking at all that data, I would be really surprised if Mario smashes in Japan You seem don't understand that Super Mario and Nintendo are Japan's national treasures And no, you just can't compare Japan to other Asian countries when talking about Mario/Nintendo popularity Actually Nintendo is a very small and conservative company (it has like 7K employees worldwide, less than EA, Activision, Ubisoft and many other "normal" publishers)... So before Switch generation hit it didn't even had an official presence in many parts of the world/Asia. There was no games localization etc. I mean, Switch launched in South Korea without korean UI (it was added later)... So no, Mario and Nintendo are not as huge in Asia outside of Japan as they are in Japan. And it was never the case. The truth is outside of Japan there is just around 10 Nintendo publishing offices around the world... Nintendo of America Inc. (Treehouse) Nintendo of Canada Ltd. Nintendo of Europe GmbH (Germany) Nintendo France S.A.R.L. Nintendo Benelux B.V. Nintendo Ibérica, S.A. Nintendo RU LLC. (closing due to the war and sanctions) Nintendo Australia Pty Limited Nintendo of Korea Co., Ltd. Nintendo (Hong Kong) Limited In Mainland China Nintendo doing business with Tencent since Switch era. Today Nintendo is trying to translate its high-profile games into Korean and Chinese, but 15-20 years ago this was out of the question. And in India and the Arab world Nintendo does not exist at all at the official level. So in many regions of the world people didn't grow up with Mario in the same way as Japanese, Americans or Europeans
Da Vinci Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Japan said: You seem don't understand that Super Mario and Nintendo are Japan's national treasures And no, you just can't compare Japan to other Asian countries when talking about Mario/Nintendo popularity Actually Nintendo is a very small and conservative company (it has like 7K employees worldwide, less than EA, Activision, Ubisoft and many other "normal" publishers)... So before Switch generation hit it didn't even had an official presence in many parts of the world/Asia. There was no games localization etc. I mean, Switch launched in South Korea without korean UI (it was added later)... So no, Mario and Nintendo are not as huge in Asia outside of Japan as they are in Japan. And it was never the case. The truth is outside of Japan there is just around 10 Nintendo publishing offices around the world... Nintendo of America Inc. (Treehouse) Nintendo of Canada Ltd. Nintendo of Europe GmbH (Germany) Nintendo France S.A.R.L. Nintendo Benelux B.V. Nintendo Ibérica, S.A. Nintendo RU LLC. (closing due to the war and sanctions) Nintendo Australia Pty Limited Nintendo of Korea Co., Ltd. Nintendo (Hong Kong) Limited In Mainland China Nintendo doing business with Tencent since Switch era. Today Nintendo is trying to translate its high-profile games into Korean and Chinese, but 15-20 years ago this was out of the question. And in India and the Arab world Nintendo does not exist at all at the official level. So in many regions of the world people didn't grow up with Mario in the same way as Japanese, Americans or Europeans With that logic, Pokémon: Detective Pikachu should've made $100M+ in Japan instead of just $27M This Mario movie, like Detective Pikachu, is written, directed, voice acted, edited, scored, etc. by mostly Americans (white people) primarily FOR Americans and a global audience. Its success in Japan just isn't guaranteed unlike anime movies where everyone involved in the process is Japanese, creating and working primarily FOR a Japanese audience Nobody is disputing Nintendo and Mario's icon status in Japan.... as video games Movies about those video games are a different thing
MDS Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Gwendolyn said: I wonder when Nintendo is gonna announce the next IP getting a movie.. any bets? Knowing Nintendo, maybe the next decade, if we´re lucky
lovecatt Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Gwendolyn said: I wonder when Nintendo is gonna announce the next IP getting a movie.. any bets? We'll probably get a DK spin off (see the current theme park expansions) & a Mario sequel before another IP gets a movie
XAMJ Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 Frozen (an original IP with a 1/4 of the relevance) finally going down to Mario, what a run.
arceus Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 We need that Smash Bros Cinematic Universe. Not just limited to Nintendo's characters!!!!
bliaz Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 My niece was very excited to see the movie. She said she liked it. All the little kids in the movie theater dressed as Mario characters
SchmoodRing Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 On 4/18/2023 at 4:56 AM, arceus said: We need that Smash Bros Cinematic Universe. Not just limited to Nintendo's characters!!!! god no. we don't need things to always be connected on a grand scheme of things. if anything this should force studios to see that not everything is meant to be dark and live action. more freedom and leverage when having things be animated
Pink Ranger Posted April 21, 2023 Posted April 21, 2023 20 hours ago, Pink Ranger said: WEEK 3 US monday- 5.8M Tuesday - 7.4M Wednesday - 4.82M
Roberto Posted April 21, 2023 Posted April 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pink Ranger said: STOMP The evil has been defeated.
SchmoodRing Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 23 hours ago, Pink Ranger said: STOMP they need to do a LUIGI'S MANSION movie asap. this proves my theory about certain properties not being able to translate properly live action without it becoming a former shell of itself true. not everything needs to be made dark to appeal to everyone. alot of these properties are meant to cater to children that shouldn't get lost when these movies are made either? i have yet to see this movie but from what i've heard if this was done live action we wouldn't have gotten what we did and deserved. if they go ahead with adapting other properties of theirs the legend of zelda, metroid fusion asap!
Baltie Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 Just saw the movie last night and it was such a joy to watch as a Mario and Nintendo fan Heck, even the people I was with aren't like hardcore gamers and they still had a good time. Just goes to show that not every movie needs to have some deep messages and underlying themes, and lighthearted fun movies can succeed too!
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