Europe Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Quote According to studies, younger and middle-aged men are the loneliest they've been in generations, and it's probably going to get worse. Greg Matos, American psychologist tells heterosexual men that they need to "address skills deficits to meet healthier relationship expectations", because women are holding out for men who are "emotionally available, good communicators, and who share similar values. https://www.boredpanda.com/number-of-lonely-single-men-rise-psychologist-greg-matos/?utm_source=moviechat&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic Do you think this is true? Should we all go to therapy?
Grumpy Cat Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 i made peace with the fact i'll die alone long time ago better than being desperate, stuck in some patriarchy bs and being a slave to some dude who'd beat me, cheat on me and use me just for s.ex and money. so...there u go guys, end of civilization is coming and i personally dont give a ****
P.O.P Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Single does not mean miserable, one can have a fulfilling without a partner. The rise of unhappily married people are the bigger problem.
arceus Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 This is why straight men are so hostile towards the hypersexual gays They are probably jealous we can hook up every single day with different people
shookspeare Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 literally all straight men have to do is work out and have a stable job maybe I'm oversimplifying but that's how it seems to me meanwhile if you're gay and don't live in a major city it's pretty much impossible to find anything more than a hookup
Grumpy Cat Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, P.O.P said: Single does not mean miserable, one can have a fulfilling without a partner. The rise of unhappily married people are the bigger problem. thats why i am single and i highly doubt one can tolerate my lunacy. and i surely cannot stand anyone's bs. i'd probably, well most likely, have a full psychotic break if i was forced to marry just for the idea of being married and being a baby machine. nope, not for me. my psyche would say- **** you and leave me.
Europe Posted September 22, 2022 Author Posted September 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, shookspeare said: literally all straight men have to do is work out and have a stable job maybe I'm oversimplifying but that's how it seems to me meanwhile if you're gay and don't live in a major city it's pretty much impossible to find anything more than a hookup It's impossible to make something lasting in a major city as well because of having too many choices, people are always looking for the next best guy.
Grumpy Cat Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AbeHicks said: It's impossible to make something lasting in a major city as well because of having too many choices, people are always looking for the next best guy. in what city that is? in my city guys look like brainwashed zombies- just starring into nothing or their phones. u could dress up as princess Di, they still wouldnt notice. Edited September 22, 2022 by Grumpy Cat
shookspeare Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, AbeHicks said: It's impossible to make something lasting in a major city as well because of having too many choices, people are always looking for the next best guy. Guess it depends, I used to live in Boston and didn't have a problem finding dates/a boyfriend a place like NYC or LA is probably impossible tho, mid size cities are where it's at
Pikachoo Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, P.O.P said: Single does not mean miserable, one can have a fulfilling without a partner. The rise of unhappily married people are the bigger problem. yes! When will we stop equating being in a relationship with being happy? Alexa play Free Woman by Lady GaGa
Nano Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 All this bullsht about how men are becoming lonelier because of toxic masculinity is just nonsense. Men are currently more pussified than they've ever been in history. Maybe that's what's really causing this situation.
Grumpy Cat Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Nano said: All this bullsht about how men are becoming lonelier because of toxic masculinity is just nonsense. Men are currently more pussified than they've ever been in history. Maybe that's what's really causing this situation. because they go in extremes- either they are buffed bros or straight fairies scared to come out of their mommys basements, that also includes maniacs like incels
John Slayne Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, P.O.P said: The rise of unhappily married people are the bigger problem. is there a rise though? everyone is getting divorced these days, hardly anyone is looking for long-term commitment which is not necessarily bad, it's better to be single than be a prisoner in a crap relationship/marriage, but i think straight men really suffer from the breakdown of the nuclear family because, like the article says, they never learned basic communication skills and how to be emotionally available - there is actually research that shows that women benefit from being single a lot more than men, are generally happier and have better relationships with people in their community, and even earn more money 10 minutes ago, Nano said: All this bullsht about how men are becoming lonelier because of toxic masculinity is just nonsense. Men are currently more pussified than they've ever been in history. Maybe that's what's really causing this situation. I would argue that it is actually toxic masculinity, it's just that in the past women were more socialised into hetero relationships and being submissive to their man. Nowadays women are more educated and financially independent than ever so they don't have to put up with that crap from men anymore, which means men become lonely because they don't have their wives (who also double as their mothers and therapists in het relationships, let's be real).
Aristide Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Nano said: All this bullsht about how men are becoming lonelier because of toxic masculinity is just nonsense. Men are currently more pussified than they've ever been in history. Maybe that's what's really causing this situation. I actually think society labeling masculinity as toxic is essentially like labeling men in general as toxic. Such a response from society is therefore alienating men from society.
Aristide Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 It has nothing to do with men's behavior, but with women raising their standards.
Aristide Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, John Slayne said: but i think straight men really suffer from the breakdown of the nuclear family because, like the article says, they never learned basic communication skills and how to be emotionally available It's actually the unintentionally single men that are more likely to have "strong communication skills" and be emotionally available. Edited September 22, 2022 by Aristide
Europe Posted September 22, 2022 Author Posted September 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, Aristide said: I actually think society labeling masculinity as toxic is essentially like labeling men in general as toxic. Such a response from society is therefore alienating men from society. Jami Jivani agrees with you! Quote His father was a Muslim immigrant. He provided for the family’s economic needs but was rarely present emotionally. Jivani, though not growing up in poverty, nonetheless experienced racial discrimination and struggled in school. All of these experiences fostered a strong sense of disconnection from broader society, and he found himself attracted initially by what he calls the “gangster culture” promoted by rap artists. “I was desperate for some direction in my life, for some sense of what kind of man I was supposed to be. . . . All the ideas I was drawn to were ones that held the promise of filling the voids in my life. These voids weren’t being filled in school, where I never once had the chance to talk about masculinity, aside from basic sex education in health class.” They all feel like outsiders unable to really be a part of the society they live in. https://comment.org/why-do-the-young-men-rage/
Zoe_ Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 There is also a rise in younger men (40s/50s), specifically Black men that are in senior homes. Women have raised they're standards and realize that some men out there are not good company. I respect it.
Exquisite Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Good, women have had to put up with so much **** over the years from a lot of men and being a young unmarried women is no longer the death sentence it was 50+ years ago
Joyride Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 I'm willing to die alone unless I somehow find a way to marry a Noah Reid lookalike
If U Seek Amy Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 I mean a lot of it makes sense. I don't think having a partner should be something required in life and you can live a fulfilling life single. A rise in lonely men is no surprise though, particularly straight men. We are all lonelier than ever behind technology. Sure it keeps up connected online, but it leads to less fulfilling and real relationships as your time and energy are drained online. And when people have no lives they form a life within technology fully to cope typically. you can meet people online and then real life eventually, but it is much harder to do. On top of that, like some others have stated, women now have higher standards and aren't quite as into the traditional style of love and marriage as much as their ancestors were. Third cultures around the world have changed drastically from when marriage and love rates were higher. There are a multitude of others reasons we could go into, but those are just some. If you really are determined to meet someone work on maintaining your body and developing your own life, make sure you are social or force yourself into situations to be more social and make more relationships if you have to, and ultimately just don't hide yourself away in technology inside and wonder why you're alone
brenda-walsh Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Nano said: All this bullsht about how men are becoming lonelier because of toxic masculinity is just nonsense. Men are currently more pussified than they've ever been in history. Maybe that's what's really causing this situation. if you cared to read the article you'd realize there's zero mention of toxic masculinity. go back to fantasizing about f*cking your uncle
Trent W Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Aristide said: It has nothing to do with men's behavior, but with women raising their standards. Straight men are also starting to wake up and say no to women and carrying the weight of being the one who carries the whole family financially It goes both ways tbh. I think we need to evolve and accept that being in a relationship is not a must and that is okay to go on alone. We have been brainwashed for centuries into marriage and families so elites have more work force and wealth growth. Is okay to be alone, people who think having a relationship is a success are usually ****** up.
Aristide Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Trent W said: Straight men are also starting to wake up and say no to women and carrying the weight of being the one who carries the whole family financially It goes both ways tbh. Men are not saying "no" to women. What do you mean? About 90% of the time men are the ones being rejected, not the other way around. And a man is still expected to provide for his spouse, but more and more men do not have the ability to support another person(s). That's probably a huge reason why we're seeing a rise in the number of men who cannot attract a mate.
bad guy Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 It's really not hard to find someone to sleep with you or be in a relationship if you actually just put in work. Work out, look decent, and have a personality and women will like you. Instead some men wanna fall into victimhood about how "hard" it is for men now because they don't wanna put in effort. And nothing's more unattractive than a "woe is me" attitude.
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