charts discussion Early Hot 100 predictions (Winston): AIWx 14 #1, SFG #2, Bad Habit #3

[truthteller]

enough with the Bad Habit snub

[Lovett]

2 minutes ago, Great808 said:

Curb stomped skksks. It outpeaked MR, ARUTW, and INLA but I highly doubt it will be seeing those in the long run just look at their streams and certs. Shallow and ROM devour this up in every single way possible so just take this L cause no one is threatened by a 9-15-20 single run dear. 

It out peaked, it out lasted and it out charted. ROM barely spent 4 weeks in the top 10 and you want to talk about front-loaded? BMS spent the same amount of time in the top 10 as "Stupid Love" spent on the entirety of the Hot 100. Take a break from embarrassing yourself and try trolling somewhere else. Because this was... not it.

[Great808]

If BMS falls completely out of the top 20 I fear for the safety of ms @MrLovettand ms @Armani? 

[Great808]

Just now, MrLovett said:

It out peaked, it out lasted and it out charted. ROM barely spent 4 weeks in the top 10 and you want to talk about front-loaded? BMS spent the same amount of time in the top 10 as "Stupid Love" spent on the entirety of the Hot 100. Take a break from embarrassing yourself and try trolling somewhere else. Because this was... not it.

How many times do we have to talk about how charts and runs mean nothing in the long run. At all. ARUTW spent like a month? (Idk cause like I said I don’t pay much attention to charts) in the whole chart and it’s sold millions and millions WW. You can’t stand I keep coming with receipts while you hold onto personal insults ksksksks. Give it UP 

[Lovett]

3 minutes ago, Great808 said:

If BMS falls completely out of the top 20 I fear for the safety of ms @MrLovettand ms @Armani? 

1 minute ago, Great808 said:

How many times do we have to talk about how charts and runs mean nothing in the long run. At all. ARUTW spent like a month? (Idk cause like I said I don’t pay much attention to charts) in the whole chart and it’s sold millions and millions WW. You can’t stand I keep coming with receipts while you hold onto personal insults ksksksks. Give it UP 

Talk about backtracking.  All you're talking about is BMS' chart run and now suddenly "charts and runs mean nothing".  The way you've been struggling with Beyoncé having yet another solo smash on her hands has been so enjoyable to see.

 

Keep on seething!

[Bacardo Royale]

Doja saving Post Malone's career 

[pride4jc1222]

14 hours ago, e_yal said:

I hate BB so easy to manipulate these days. Certain fan base can just mass buy a song that got 2 remix in 3 weeks and get #1. Im talking about FG this time but that's a general problem, not only with the barbz. BB  should reflect hits not who have more obsessed fan base 

I have been saying since May, when Harry put out a digital download with alternative cover of AIW in the 5th week of its run, that Billboard needs to update its formula for the Hot 100 by lowering radio’s influence and getting rid of sales altogether. The fact that the most popular streaming hits, like RUTH and Bad Habit, have yet to reach #1 on the Hot 100 shows that the formula is inaccurate.

[discreetinside]

16 hours ago, CottageHore said:

So Harry is likely gonna break the record for weeks at #1 with…… that? What is going on with music lately 

2022 seems like a pretty weak and forgettable year for 2020s pop music like I feel this year was full of old pop hits resurgent while there's not much original 2022 pop hits that are gonna age well and remembered in the long run 

Edited September 14, 2022 by discreetinside

[Queen.]

17 hours ago, LastGreatBloodline said:

barbz should do what they do best and mass buy

enough with AIW on the top and nicki also deserves to have a multi week #1

This is true. The radio play for Harry is massive and I don't understand it. 

 

 

 

[Armani?]

3 hours ago, Great808 said:

If BMS falls completely out of the top 20 I fear for the safety of ms @MrLovettand ms @Armani? 

Falling out the Top 20 in its 14th week. Whatever will we do. It'll go recurrent & reach 20 weeks. Who cares

[Rhiannon]

That awful song free falling right after it was dropped by radio

 

And AIW still at #1, Harry really won.

Edited September 14, 2022 by Rhiannon

[Cheers]

23. STAY

35. Ghost

 

 

[Sweetestsecret]

3 hours ago, Armani? said:

 It'll go recurrent & reach 20 weeks. Who cares

Reminds me the chart performance of 'look what you made me do'.. When Taylor did that with 'look what you made me do' everyone here said that the song was front-loaded!

Edited September 14, 2022 by Sweetestsecret

[shelven]

As It Was's radio dominance is very unsurprising because of how slow radio has been the last 2 years, but its continued streaming power is really fascinating. It's STILL #2 on US Spotify

[Great808]

6 hours ago, Wizard said:

BMS really did a number on that user

 

Did a number on my and the GP’s ears by the looks of it’s radio callouts 

 

4 hours ago, Armani? said:

Falling out the Top 20 in its 14th week. Whatever will we do. It'll go recurrent & reach 20 weeks. Who cares

The song is falling so fast and hard that it’s very obvious it won’t be seeing an increase at all. It’s so funny tho because all the songs that were smashing alongside it recently are still in the top 10,20 and remaining very stable while this one is just falling like a rock. 

[Armani?]

49 minutes ago, Sweetestsecret said:

Reminds me the chart performance of 'look what you made me do'.. When Taylor did that with 'look what you made me do' everyone here said that the song was front-loaded!

LWYMMD spent 2 weeks less in the Top 10 & had no weeks in the Top 20 unless it rose back to it during album release

[Great808]

Just now, Armani? said:

LWYMMD spent 2 weeks less in the Top 10 & had no weeks in the Top 20 unless it rose back to it album release

And this album already came out  it’s run in the top 20 is over after next week

[Lovett]

1 hour ago, Great808 said:

Did a number on my and the GP’s ears by the looks of it’s radio callouts 

 

The song is falling so fast and hard that it’s very obvious it won’t be seeing an increase at all. It’s so funny tho because all the songs that were smashing alongside it recently are still in the top 10,20 and remaining very stable while this one is just falling like a rock. 

Radio callouts aren't public.  The way you ran away, only to return to continue lying.  A song falling 5 spots is not "falling fast" and even that's with it being pulled from radio. The other songs haven't been pulled by radio, so why wouldn't they be remaining stable with all three metrics being factored in?

 

This is so dumb. Why are you even trying this narrative?

[pride4jc1222]

Guys, do not engage with Great808. Just report his posts and ignore. Block if you need to. All he's doing is trying to get attention and derail the thread. Responding to him will only drag you down with him.

[AngelSwift13]

10 hours ago, pride4jc1222 said:

I have been saying since May, when Harry put out a digital download with alternative cover of AIW in the 5th week of its run, that Billboard needs to update its formula for the Hot 100 by lowering radio’s influence and getting rid of sales altogether. The fact that the most popular streaming hits, like RUTH and Bad Habit, have yet to reach #1 on the Hot 100 shows that the formula is inaccurate.

Just my two cents... but I feel like diminishing the hot 100 to a heavily streaming dominated chart by eliminating sales and deeply diminishing radio will have the inverse effect of the early 2000s hot 100 formula when on pretty much any given basis the hot 100 mirrored the airplay chart because singles sales were so low, only being revived momentarily by American Idol for a few years. But just because people aren't buying songs as much as they were in, say, 2012, it doesn't mean sales should be removed in my opinion. All forms of consumption should be included to accurately represent popularity. Otherwise the hot 100 just becomes a streaming songs chart, which already exists. Not to mention the average weekly radio #1 still has more audience impressions than the streaming #1 has plays... I don't want you to think I'm some pro-radio nut, because I'm not. More often than not I agree with you that its influence is more than a little overstated. I don't even listen to the radio unless I'm forced to in a 7/11 or something. I'm just saying it's still a valid and, begrudgingly, relevant component of the hot 100.

Edited September 14, 2022 by AngelSwift13

[Darkgalord]

On 9/13/2022 at 4:13 PM, Great808 said:

Beyonce spending 10 weeks in the top 10 and 1 week in the top 20 after all was said and done and the Hive still have the nerve to say it wasn’t a frontloaded mess 

[DRjuss06]

1 hour ago, AngelSwift13 said:

Just my two cents... but I feel like diminishing the hot 100 to a heavily streaming dominated chart by eliminating sales and deeply diminishing radio will have the inverse effect of the early 2000s hot 100 formula when on pretty much any given basis the hot 100 mirrored the airplay chart because singles sales were so low, only being revived momentarily by American Idol for a few years. But just because people aren't buying songs as much as they were in, say, 2012, it doesn't mean sales should be removed in my opinion. All forms of consumption should be included to accurately represent popularity. Otherwise the hot 100 just becomes a streaming songs chart, which already exists. Not to mention the average weekly radio #1 still has more audience impressions than the streaming #1 has plays... I don't want you to think I'm some pro-radio nut, because I'm not. More often than not I agree with you that its influence is more than a little overstated. I don't even listen to the radio unless I'm forced to in a 7/11 or something. I'm just saying it's still a valid and, begrudgingly, relevant component of the hot 100.

Completely agree. Radio is still consumed A LOT, regardless of the payola. Harry’s run across all metrics has been outstanding. The song has been bigger than Old Time Road for example. 

[pride4jc1222]

1 hour ago, DRjuss06 said:

Completely agree. Radio is still consumed A LOT, regardless of the payola. Harry’s run across all metrics has been outstanding. The song has been bigger than Old Time Road for example. 

AIW is nowhere near as big as OTR, especially in sales and streaming. OTR had 20 weeks at #1 on streaming and 16 weeks at #1 on sales. AIW only had 2 weeks at #1 on streaming and one week at #1 on sales. The only metric AIW may have OTR beat is radio, and even then, OTR's radio peak was bigger than AIW.

[ClashAndBurn]

13 hours ago, Armani? said:

Falling out the Top 20 in its 14th week. Whatever will we do. It'll go recurrent & reach 20 weeks. Who cares

What was the last solo Gaga song to go recurrent at 20 weeks? Was it Applause? Or did that even make it to 20 weeks? I honestly don't remember anything other than it doing worse than pretty much every other pop girl's lead single within that timeframe, from Rihanna's "Diamonds" and Kesha's "Die Young" all the way to Beyonce's "Drunk In Love" (yeah I know XO came first, but they were released so close together it might as well have been a IIWAB/SL situation)  

[Steve Johnson]

4 hours ago, DRjuss06 said:

The song has been bigger than Old Time Road for example