Blade Runner Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 But glad Dianne backed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazil Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) I mean I am curious as to how many of these names come from samples and how many worked directly at Rena. It does seem like a lot of people. Edited August 1, 2022 by brazil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingB® Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Protocol said: Not The Dream having "Music Icon" as part of his Twitter name The ego and megalomania of everyone associated with Beyonce is just.... no wonder she's surrounded by yes people and no one had the guts to tell her the album sucks. Diane shouldn't have backed down, she did not lie. The album is dog **** so it's not like those samples did anything either. Maybe if they hadn't relied on tired, overused samples like "I'm Too Sexy", "I Feel Love" and "Show Me Love" they could've come up with better music. IASF has practically no samples and it has her most well-known and beloved songs for a reason. It's not Diane's fault that The Dream is creatively bankrupt at this point and had to run to the most overused 90s house sample to try to get the lead single. And it's not even the best usage of it this year, Charli's "Used to Know You" ate it up. She just LOVES to give credit even if she didn’t have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucinate Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 her having to backtrack after the lashings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, Protocol said: Not The Dream having "Music Icon" as part of his Twitter name The ego and megalomania of everyone associated with Beyonce is just.... no wonder she's surrounded by yes people and no one had the guts to tell her the album sucks. Diane shouldn't have backed down, she did not lie. The album is a mess it's not like those samples did anything either. Maybe if they hadn't relied on tired, overused samples like "I'm Too Sexy", "I Feel Love" and "Show Me Love" they could've come up with better music. IASF has practically no samples and it has her most well-known and beloved songs for a reason. It's not Diane's fault that The Dream is creatively bankrupt at this point and had to run to the most overused 90s house sample to try to get the lead single. And it's not even the best usage of it this year, Charli's "Used to Know You" ate it up. Beyonce literally didn’t even sample “Show me Love” on Break My Soul, but still gave credit….and not you trying to use critically panned album IASF as a shinning example of what her albums should be like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Show Business Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 She didn't lie it's kind of embarassing some of the users in here trying to one up her when she's a certifiable legend. Beyoncé is enormously talented. 24 songwriters for one song is excessive at times... Both of these things can be true at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carla Rosón Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 So she'd rather them not getting credit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carla Rosón Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, inmymendes said: Why are a bunch of gay men quoting and dragging Diane Warren on twitter? please log off and find friends. Y’all know Diane Warren is an acclaimed SONGWRITER who has written multiple classics and Beyoncé just sings songs that were written for her by 24 white men Her writing camps are mostly black women gtfo misogynistic racist oaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dula Peep Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 the hive is swarming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.B GAGA Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) Better a good well written song than a garbage convoluted mess, void of comprehension because you want to be seen as a writer. Edited August 1, 2022 by L.B GAGA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar1103 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) What Beyonce song has 24 writers on it? Nevermind it must be Alien Superstar. The has 2 songs samples and a interpolates from Right Said Fred "I'm so sexy". All writers were credited. She also credited the producer and co-producers. I'm not seeing the problem. Seems like her team doesn't want a Blurred Lines lawsuit. Edited August 1, 2022 by Stellar1103 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHaven Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Nawt her backing down all of a sudden weak ahh b!tch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 This whole safe was just… her trolling backfired so that’s good to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1DES Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I always think about how Savage went from four writers to nine on the Remix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCarpet Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 it's just music, it is supposed to make us entertain. for me I don't care who writes the songs and who produces who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymoonshine Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I think 24 writers is a lot but also a lot of pop writing works this way now. You have groups of people writing songs together, you have producers also altering the composition of songs which counts as writing. Sometimes demos get sent around and people add their own ideas to it. The song changes as every different person works on it and really all those people should be credited even if their involvement is ultimately minimal. Also as we all know Beyonce uses a lot of samples these days. I think some of the drags against Diane are a little unfair but she didn't have to tweet that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 How does Beyhive make everything about race? Chile, must be exhausting. The cult behaviour is very scary, but you know the drag is on point when it causes such reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahauntingnearu Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Why and how does Diane always look so embarrassing I feel bad for her sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOCK Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 "Cause them Karens just turned into terrorists." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Usually it's 3-5 writers nowadays, at least on average. Times change. I understand and respect the opinion of older artists who value original compositions (Jazz musicians had a love hate relationship with Jazz Rap during it's beginnings) but sampling when done right is great. On songs without samples or interpolations it's a much better question. I am kinda curious why artists go through that process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OreGuy Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 she was right to question it and it should be said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*-ChriZ-* Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 How moronic and sheer IDIOTIC do u have to be to think 24 actual people sat down and wrote 1 song (by/for an URBAN singer at that) as a Songwriter yourself? Exposing her 10 IQ like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confide in me Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 She doesn’t know what sampling is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint James Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Jormungand said: This isn't the shade y'all think it is, but someone needs to educate this clueless woman. Diane knows how samples work, she’s not clueless. But I do think there’s a white cultural precedent that allows these kinds of comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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