The7thStranger Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, brazil said: I'm sorry but your arguments are equivalent to the people in April 2020 trying to equate going to get groceries to going to illegal rave parties. Of course the risk in one is greater than the other and trying to equate both is nonsensical. I'm not even saying this as someone who haven't had sex since the monkeypox outbreak started or that some months in the pandemic wasn't tired of covid rules, but I recognize these as my own shortcomings and the risk you pur yourself and others in when engaging in whatever activity can be very distinctive. But one could easily argue that sex is entirely non-essential and therefore having sex of any kind as a overtly risky behavior. Going to grocery store is necessary. I just don't get why we are trashing this one person over his sexual choices. We really need to stop thinking of monkeypox as COVID-19 or HIV. If anybody is truly worried about it, then they have the right (and hopefully the access) to get the vaccine. If they don't want to get the vaccine (and have access to it), I honestly don't know what to tell you. They can go live in a bubble with tin foil on their heads. He could also catch pneumonia at an orgy and pass it on. But because monkeypox is on everybody's minds, we have to be up in arms about behaviors that never would have been up for discussion beforehand. And I'm sorry, but people are clearly going after this guy because he's into watersports. If this was a story about a guy who had a vanilla hookup and caught it, I don't think the outrage would be there.
The7thStranger Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Аshanti said: a) the vaccine ain't available yet in a lot of big metro areas (where these piss parties take place), but that's what I read here b) if you can't go for a couple of weeks without piss orgies, then there's definitely something wrong with you Stop defending THAT, like... Why would they feel the need to wait if they don't fear the disease? To protect other people who also don't care that it exists? Where's the motivation? I can tell you that the only time I see people truly worrying about monkeypox is when I'm on ATRL. Otherwise, it's simply not on the GP's radar. I mean, I really hope that all of you people going in on this guy are still wearing masks everywhere you go, avoiding concerts, not going to the movies, getting regular booster shots, not going out to eat in restaurants, leaving space on public transit, and doing everything that you can to not spread COVID-19, which is still killing people daily. Edited July 25, 2022 by The7thStranger
Аshanti Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, The7thStranger said: Why would they feel the need to wait if they don't fear the disease? To protect other people who also don't care that it exists? Where's the motivation? I can tell you that the only time I see people truly worrying about monkeypox is when I'm on ATRL. Otherwise, it's simply not on the GP's radar. I mean, I really hope that all of you people going in on this guy are still wearing masks everywhere you go, avoiding concerts, not going to the movies, getting regular booster shots, not going out to eat in restaurants, leaving space on public transit, and doing everything that you can to not spread COVID-19, which is still killing people daily. I still wear a mask whenever I'm out/or at a concert. Get railed all you want I wiill NOT be supporting this lifestyle
Hephaestus Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 I'm no prude but this kind of behaviour in a moment in time where a virus is rapidly spreading is simply reckless. You can be a sex-positive person and make considerate choices about the sexual activities you partake in, the two things are not mutually exclusive. The point is not stopping having sex altogether (although I believe it could be beneficial for some, but that's a different conversation), it's to be mindful of how many sexual partners one interacts with and in what circumstances. Is it really the best idea to participate in sexual activities that involve a large number of participants, especially if you don't know them well? I don't think so, personally I'd stick with a few trusted individuals. Sex workers have it a little more difficult considering the nature of their job, but I think most of what I said previously can still be applied, especially the part about group sex. Despite this being applicable to everyone, LGBTQ+ folks have to be extra careful since the dating pool is arguably smaller compared to heterosexuals in most places hence the degree of separation from someone who is particularly sexually active and might be infected (be it from Monkeypox, HIV, HPV or any other disease) being smaller too.
The7thStranger Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Аshanti said: I still wear a mask whenever I'm out/or at a concert. Get railed all you want I wiill NOT be supporting this lifestyle So you go to concerts, which is an unnecessary and highly risky thing to do while we're in a global pandemic. I knew you were all talking out both sides of your mouths.
Robert Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 People can do what they want I guess but what was he hoping to achieve in sharing this?
FreeXone Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 To each his own. Let your freak flag fly. Sucks he caught monkeypox.
Gottasadae Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) Disgusting, why did I read this Edited July 25, 2022 by Gottasadae
Smarticle Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 3 hours ago, InventedGays said: Yes blame just gay sex for the spread of COVID and not the swarm of straight white people that refused to believe it was real and protested against any safety measures & the right wing politicians that encouraged them I mean I'm not just blaming gay sex but when ur having orgies dont be surprised COVID can also spread
Jynx672 Posted July 25, 2022 Author Posted July 25, 2022 11 hours ago, Teen Idle said: Very true The book 'Straight Jacket' by Matthew Todd and 'The Velvet Rage' go into detail about the origins of this behaviour. There's definitely a balance between shaming people for this (which is the last thing they need) and thinking this is healthy behaviour. I just have a few questions about this specifically... What are the ramifications of drinking piss? Like how does that affect your body? Is it possible to have this kind of sexual behaviour without it being a result of mental illness/trauma? I say this as someone who's ended up in risky and transactional sexual encounters, although less extreme than OP, but I've never really actually enjoyed them or truly wanted them, if that makes sense. If I'm in a healthy, loving and well regulated headspace then I don't seek out encounters like this. Yeah, I know the feeling. I became sexually active relatively late (26) and felt like I had to make up for things by trying to act out my porn-fueled fantasies... none of which met my expectations. On the other hand I'm glad I waited so long because I definitely would've gotten involved in a lot more messed up things had I started at the age of 18.
Jynx672 Posted July 25, 2022 Author Posted July 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Espresso said: Where are the stats on this? Not just anecdotally. The people who assume one sex worker drinking piss from dozens represents all gay men aren't going to change their position because Gay Twitter is wringing their hands. Statistically, shaming them on social media isn't going to work in terms of their sexual practices either which we saw during the AIDS crisis, unless deaths actually start happening from monkeypox and only then. During the height of the AIDS crisis doctors were pretty much begging gay men to stop visiting bath houses to stop the spread of the disease, and they still didn't listen. If shaming doesn't work, then what does?
John Slayne Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 not y'all acting as if straight people don't do orgies... the internalised homophobia is so tired
John Slayne Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jynx672 said: If shaming doesn't work, then what does? educating people about safe sex, providing condoms and healthcare? none of which happened during the AIDS epidemic
Jynx672 Posted July 25, 2022 Author Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, John Slayne said: not y'all acting as if straight people don't do orgies... the internalised homophobia is so tired Straight people don't engage in orgies at the same rate as gay men do... stop kidding yourself.
John Slayne Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 Just now, Jynx672 said: Straight people don't engage in orgies at the same rate as gay men do... stop kidding yourself. you'd be surprised. given that straight people are the majority they probably organise more orgies overall than the gays, hyper-fixating on gays when it comes to spread of infectious diseases is extremely homophobic
chris1991 Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 I don’t **** shame, anyone should be able to have fulfill their sex lives BUT SOME gays are on another level! Twitter is full of gays having the most sex, mutile partners etc etc. I never want to put blame on anyone for getting the virus but at some point it does come down to the person and their choices. Sex is good but is it really worth your health? Not them running to get a vaccine…like sis just cool it for a month or so until the virus slows down.(in a perfect world everyone would agree to stop having orgies to get it to chill out)
PoisonPill Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 22 hours ago, Gui Blackout said: The responses here are ******* gross, its giving 80s conservatives saying gays deserve AIDS for being sexually active Y'all can live your perfect non-orgy attending lifestyle and still easily catch this disease like he did, get off your high horse. I agree with your first line, but the second line is just provably false.
PoisonPill Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, ninasayers said: The way ATRL really is full of reactionary, puritan self-hating gays OP is literally lgbtphobic so i'm not shocked they're the one to have posted this lol. So questioning this person's behavior during a major disease outbreak is "self-hating", but turning oneself into a human toilet for dozens of strangers is the epitome of self-love Edited July 25, 2022 by PoisonPill
harwee Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 Monkeypox would be the least of his worries drinking piss. Guys like that don't give a flying **** about any side of this argument. He just want attention.
Pepo Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) I feel no sympathy whatsoever for disease spreaders like him. Edited July 25, 2022 by Pepo
IlianVargas Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Jynx672 said: Straight people don't engage in orgies at the same rate as gay men do... stop kidding yourself.
Ascareus Kratos Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, John Slayne said: you'd be surprised. given that straight people are the majority they probably organise more orgies overall than the gays, hyper-fixating on gays when it comes to spread of infectious diseases is extremely homophobic It isn't a surprised thing tho. If more orgies are conducted by str8 peps, it makes sense. Because their population is much higher. You should use fairer parameters. Having 'community reflection' is considered extremely homophobic, you must be joking lol. The evidence is clear, stated almost all are gay/bisexual man. That is the ugly truth. At this rate, gay or bisexual should be on the 1st place to get vaccinated. Because this is the key. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/25/monday-briefing-monkeypox-gay-bisexual-men-public-health-who
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