discussion Biden's job approval plummets to 33%. Only 26% dems want a 2nd term (NYT)

[nadiamendell]

Let’s be real. Biden’s primary win was largely due to old people across ALL spectrums. Just another example of Boomers screwing us over and young people not getting out to vote as much as they should have.  

[A Bomb]

2 minutes ago, byzantium said:

So you agree, white voters did not want Biden.  

 

So you agree.  Biden's win was largely the result of racial minority support. 
 

Almost there! Keep going, byzantium!

Then... the mayor who couldn't even gain Black support from his small town told his WHITE supporters to vote for Biden. Then like divine intervention those WHITE voters forgot all their worries for Biden, and gave him the nomination. It's ok to feel regret for voting for an actual segregationist like Biden, because papa pete told you too. Some of us can look beyond rhetoric, and shallow appeal to look at the facts of a situation. 

[Bloo]

He’s embarrassing. Biden should be embarrassed of himself. He’s such a disgrace. He better not run again. 

[GhostBox]

And he will still beat all your faves Next time if they primary him ?

[Cruel Summer]

33% is so far beyond embarrassing. Even that is likely not going to be the low point of his presidency - I wonder if he’ll challenge Bush’s lowest numbers eventually, with a recession on the way.

[GraceRandolph]

6 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

And he will still beat all your faves Next time if they primary him ?

Do you think Biden will be able to debate an opponent in two years?

[CaptainMusic]

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In the survey, 94 percent of Democrats under the age of 30 said they would prefer a different presidential nominee.

 

 

This is what he deserves when he refuses to fulfil many promises and keeps trying for unrealistic bipartisanship. 

[ClashAndBurn]

9 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

And he will still beat all your faves Next time if they primary him ?

That's... because nobody who would run against a sitting president would be given infrastructure support at all. Like... they won't even do any debates. It won't even remotely be a fair race.

 

Not that it was the first time either.  

[John Slayne]

35 minutes ago, XAMJ said:

the same poll says he would beat Trump 44-41 

that's not a flex. the bar is on the floor.

 

biden is useless and everyone knows it. anything looks nice compared to a turd.

[Bloo]

22 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

And he will still beat all your faves Next time if they primary him ?

Does this mean you are supportive of Biden having primary challengers? So he can prove you right of course? Let the DNC know, sis. 

[ClashAndBurn]

6 minutes ago, Bloo said:

Does this mean you are supportive of Biden having primary challengers? So he can prove you right of course? Let the DNC know, sis. 

Considering Biden is leaning on the DNC to move Michigan up earlier, a primary won't even be "fair" so  

[byzantium]

30 minutes ago, A Bomb said:

Almost there! Keep going, byzantium!

Then... the mayor who couldn't even gain Black support from his small town told his WHITE supporters to vote for Biden. Then like divine intervention those WHITE voters forgot all their worries for Biden, and gave him the nomination. It's ok to feel regret for voting for an actual segregationist like Biden, because papa pete told you too. Some of us can look beyond rhetoric, and shallow appeal to look at the facts of a situation. 

What is not clicking for you? 

Pete pulled out of the race after South Carolina after losing due to not having black support.  His supporters had to vote for someone so they split their votes between the remaining candidates.  

And lol.  I didn't vote for Biden.  You are clearly projecting without reason which explains your poor reasoning skills.  

[XAMJ]

15 minutes ago, John Slayne said:

that's not a flex. the bar is on the floor.

 

biden is useless and everyone knows it. anything looks nice compared to a turd.

it is a flex. to some this means trump would win.

[Bloo]

1 minute ago, XAMJ said:

it is a flex. to some this means trump would win.

You realize a simple plurality of support doesn’t mean you lose in a presidential race, right? Biden needs a wider margin than 3 points (which is essentially a statistical draw). It effectively doesn’t mean anything. 

[A Bomb]

11 minutes ago, byzantium said:

What is not clicking for you? 

Pete pulled out of the race after South Carolina after losing due to not having black support.  His supporters had to vote for someone so they split their votes between the remaining candidates.  

And lol.  I didn't vote for Biden.  You are clearly projecting without reason which explains your poor reasoning skills.  

The back and forth that is basically trying to erase exactly how Biden won the primary is an interesting choice for someone who didn't end up voting for him. I will say that  

 

The burden is on you to prove Biden was going to win before Super Tuesday. Before the phone calls by Obama to make the other candidates to dropout, and rally behind Biden. Before those worries about Biden's electability keeping those suburban white voters from supporting him in poll after poll after poll. Then, again, by sheer coincidence those same candidates get positions in the Biden admin with no experience. Right!?  

 

Yes, new Democratic primary voters, who were overwhelmingly white suburbanites, gave Biden the win, and in certain states those white voters were even Republicans. You haven't been able to refute anything stated, ma'am.

Edited July 11, 2022 by A Bomb

[ClashAndBurn]

4 minutes ago, XAMJ said:

it is a flex. to some this means trump would win.

Trump wins the Electoral College with this margin. You are a completely unserious person.  

[GhostBox]

26 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Considering Biden is leaning on the DNC to move Michigan up earlier, a primary won't even be "fair" so  

Michigan should be earlier. Along with a lot of others. 

[byzantium]

10 minutes ago, A Bomb said:

The back and forth that is basically trying to erase exactly how Biden won the primary is an interesting choice for someone who didn't end up voting for him. I will say that  

 

The burden is on you to prove Biden was going to win before Super Tuesday. Before the phone calls by Obama to make the other candidates to dropout, and rally behind Biden. Before those worries about Biden's electability keeping those suburban white voters from supporting him in poll after poll after poll. Then, again, by sheer coincidence those same candidates get positions in the Biden admin with no experience. Right!?  

 

Yes, new Democratic primary voters, who were overwhelmingly white suburbanites, gave Biden the win, and in certain states those white voters were even Republicans. You haven't been able to refute anything stated, ma'am.

The democratic primary was suspect enough. There is no need for you to make up illogical narratives.  

I know reason is not your strong suit and that you have already created a conspiracy theory independent of fact, but it is fact that Biden was only able to stay in the race because of non-white voter.  In IA, NH, and NV he lost handedly.  In SC Biden only won 33% of the white vote while he won 61% of the Black vote.  Throughout the rest of the primary, Biden picked up most of his lead in states with large non-white populations.  

Like what are you not getting?

[A Bomb]

9 minutes ago, byzantium said:

The democratic primary was suspect enough. There is no need for you to make up illogical narratives.  

I know reason is not your strong suit and that you have already created a conspiracy theory independent of fact, but it is fact that Biden was only able to stay in the race because of non-white voter.  In IA, NH, and NV he lost handedly.  In SC Biden only won 33% of the white vote while he won 61% of the Black vote.  Throughout the rest of the primary, Biden picked up most of his lead in states with large non-white populations.  

Like what are you not getting?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485503-obama-spoke-with-buttigieg-after-he-dropped-out-of-2020-race-report/amp/

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1147471
 

Sure conspiracy. 

 

Again how was he going to win without the rest of the centrists dropping out and rallying behind him? Quickly. This is getting tired. You have yet to answer any of this. Using numbers AFTER these shenanigans happened doesnt make any point. We know he won. With white suburbanite voters giving him the extra energy to do so. 
 

My god, the confidence to be wrong, and condescending about it. You alright?

Edited July 11, 2022 by A Bomb

[byzantium]

Just now, A Bomb said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485503-obama-spoke-with-buttigieg-after-he-dropped-out-of-2020-race-report/amp/

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1147471
 

Sure conspiracy. 

 

Again how was he going to win without the rest of the centrist dropping out and rallying behind him? Quickly. This is getting tired. You have yet to answer any of this. Using numbers AFTER these shenanigans happened doesnt make any point. We know we won. With white suburbanite voters giving him the extra energy to do so. 
 

My god, the confidence to be wrong, and condescending about it. You alright?

What are you even arguing any more? All I am saying is that Biden had the greatest support among black voters.  This is verifiably true.  The election probably would have gone very different without the SC primary.  

Like just take a second and actually think about what you are saying.  I honestly do not think you are reading to what I am saying and are intentionally being pugnacious.  

[frenchyisback]

Democrats don’t deserve to ever run the country again. Nobody is interested in their constant circular firing squad. 

it’s a bigger sh!tshow that Trump’s stupid tweets.

 

At least the GOP has basic unity & discipline.

[frenchyisback]

1 hour ago, A Bomb said:

Almost there! Keep going, byzantium!

Then... the mayor who couldn't even gain Black support from his small town told his WHITE supporters to vote for Biden. Then like divine intervention those WHITE voters forgot all their worries for Biden, and gave him the nomination. It's ok to feel regret for voting for an actual segregationist like Biden, because papa pete told you too. Some of us can look beyond rhetoric, and shallow appeal to look at the facts of a situation. 

Not the Bernie/Warren progressives talking about people who gets thru only because of white support 

 

The way white liberals of IA & NH waisted everybody’s time last primary. ?? 
 

Also Progressives wanted to overturn black people’s vote at the convention…. Just like they tried 4 years prior.
I can at least respect Bernie for now following the “Jim Crow left” in the convention challenge folly. 

Edited July 12, 2022 by frenchyisback

[A Bomb]

22 minutes ago, byzantium said:

What are you even arguing any more? All I am saying is that Biden had the greatest support among black voters.  This is verifiably true.  The election probably would have gone very different without the SC primary.  

Like just take a second and actually think about what you are saying.  I honestly do not think you are reading to what I am saying and are intentionally being pugnacious.  

Yes, the primary would have gone differently without the interference of Clyburn, and Obama.  Ok? Polling differed in SC, and on ST thanks to the two I mentioned. Biden did a lot better after Obama coalesced support from the other centrist candidates into Biden. Like??? You have been arguing the whole time that Biden won with his existing old Black voter coalition. Not true. 
 

https://apnews.com/article/bernie-sanders-tx-state-wire-co-state-wire-va-state-wire-suburbs-eb3a355fe35a59f8b7cabe0f722a83d0
 

https://www.wfae.org/politics/2020-03-07/analysis-white-suburban-voters-were-energized-college-students-didnt-show-up-for-bernie

 

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One of the things that we saw in 2018 was a particular mobilization of college-educated, upscale, suburban professionals in large metropolitan areas—a lot of the seats in Congress that flipped in 2018 were centered in those sorts of places,” says Dave Hopkins, a political-science professor at Boston College. Last week, that group “united very quickly behind Biden.”

To go this long in a discussion ignoring that point. As if it has not concluded in his whole presidential campaign catering all messaging and rhetoric to beating Trump with a suburban white voting base. I mean. Some deep introspection should be considered on your part. please stop if you continue to ignore the impact that white professional suburbanites had on the 2020 primary. You have failed to articulate any proof of your claim that Biden would have won with his existing coalition before Obama made those calls. The call which I did provide proof for.  

[A Bomb]

1 minute ago, frenchyisback said:

Not the Bernie/Warren progressives talking about people who gets thru only because of white support 

 

The way white liberals of IA & NH waisted everybody’s time last primary. ?? 
 

Also Progressives wanted to overturn black people’s vote at the convention…. Just like they tried 4 years prior. 

I know you don’t know, because you hardly care for facts, but Bernie actually had Black and Latino support. Throughout the primary. Unlike the 20ish other candidates. Without the need to call Black voters homophobic. Or using sexism as a political stunt to garner sympathetic support. 
 

Also, I dont get the attack on Warren. Since you also use identity to distract from your bigoted political takes.  The call is coming from inside the house!

[byzantium]

8 minutes ago, A Bomb said:

Yes, the primary would have gone differently without the interference of Clyburn, and Obama.  Ok? Polling differed in SC, and on ST thanks to the two I mentioned. Biden did a lot better after Obama coalesced support from the other centrist candidates into Biden. Like??? You have been arguing the whole time that Biden won with his existing old Black voter coalition. Not true. 
 

https://apnews.com/article/bernie-sanders-tx-state-wire-co-state-wire-va-state-wire-suburbs-eb3a355fe35a59f8b7cabe0f722a83d0
 

https://www.wfae.org/politics/2020-03-07/analysis-white-suburban-voters-were-energized-college-students-didnt-show-up-for-bernie

 

To go this long in a discussion ignoring that point. As if it has not concluded in his whole presidential campaign catering all messaging and rhetoric to beating Trump with a suburban white voting base. I mean. Some deep introspection should be considered on your part. please stop if you continue to ignore the impact that white professional suburbanites had on the 2020 primary. You have failed to articulate any proof of your claim that Biden would have won with his existing coalition before Obama made those calls. The call which I did provide proof for.  

You have completely lost track of what you are arguing.  I am going to need you to take two seconds to provide a 1-2 sentence summary of what your point is.