celeb news Rolling Stone: "What the Hell Happened to Justin Timberlake?"

[Aristide]

7 minutes ago, QueenBLadyG said:

If they lack the genetics and abilities. There's plenty of artist out still performing and looking damn good. Justin just doesn't have good genes it seems. Age is a number for him. 

That's like saying Beyonce isn't as popular with the gp as she was in her 20s because of genetics and abilities. It's ridiculous. Age is a number for everyone and eventually their time is over.

[Stankonia]

1 minute ago, Aristide said:

That's like saying Beyonce isn't as popular with the gp as she was in her 20s because of genetics and abilities. It's ridiculous. Age is a number for everyone and eventually their time is over.

Beyoncé is still an amazing performer though?

[Aristide]

12 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

Why do some of you keep talking about him like he's 65 or something? He's only 41.

 

All the great entertainers were still killing it at his age.

And ageism has gotten a lot worse in the past decade or two, didn't you hear? And where do you see demand for people over 40 in mainstream music? There's maybe a few artists but for the most part, by 40, most artists are rejected by the gp.

[Aristide]

9 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

Beyoncé is still an amazing performer though?

Right, but we're not talking strictly about performance abilities but overall success. Are you going to say she isn't past her peak with the gp? Because she is, just as Justin is. That's not because anyone is a poor or weak artist, but because all artists fade out after a while.

Edited July 6, 2022 by Aristide

[Stankonia]

3 minutes ago, Aristide said:

Right, but we're not talking strictly about performance abilities but overall success. Are you going to say she isn't past her peak with the gp? Because she is, just as Justin is. That's not because anyone is a poor or weak artist, but because all artists fade out after a while.

We're not talking about "overall success".

 

This thread is about Gen Z constantly lashing Justin for his shitty behavior (and most recently for his laughable dance moves), not for his declining success - which is also a direct result of the backlash he's been receiving by the way. Obviously all artists start to lose steam with age but let's not forget that Man of the Woods was predicted to sell as much as 800k in its first week before his panned Superbowl performance. His decline in sales and popularity was pretty brutal.

 

Beyoncé is the same age as he is and Gen Z doesn't hate her even though she peaked years ago, quite the contrary. Maybe the quality of her output and her not being a terrible person has something to do with it.

[QueenBLadyG]

1 hour ago, Aristide said:

That's like saying Beyonce isn't as popular with the gp as she was in her 20s because of genetics and abilities. It's ridiculous. Age is a number for everyone and eventually their time is over.

He isn't comparable to Beyonce who is currently in the Top 10 with a solo hit and can perform her ass off. Nice try. She's cool with the kids.  

Edited July 6, 2022 by QueenBLadyG

[Aristide]

1 hour ago, Stankonia said:

We're not talking about "overall success".

 

This thread is about Gen Z constantly lashing Justin for his shitty behavior (and most recently for his laughable dance moves), not for his declining success - which is also a direct result of the backlash he's been receiving by the way. Obviously all artists start to lose steam with age but let's not forget that Man of the Woods was predicted to sell as much as 800k in its first week before his panned Superbowl performance. His decline in sales and popularity was pretty brutal.

 

Beyoncé is the same age as he is and Gen Z doesn't hate her even though she peaked years ago, quite the contrary. Maybe the quality of her output and her not being a terrible person has something to do with it.

Man of the Woods just wasn't good. Beyonce has her songs that just aren't good/ flopped too. And to be fair, Gen Z is probably only familiar with his embarrassing behavior since they aren't old enough to remember his hits.

 

Also, misandry is rampant among Gen Z pop music fans. Notice how they're dragging him for dropping his sex appeal. That's supposed to be a legitimate criticism? Imagine if a female artist was shamed for that. There'd be outrage.

Edited July 6, 2022 by Aristide

[Protocol]

That Man of the Woods album was truly career-ending

[Stankonia]

13 minutes ago, Aristide said:

Man of the Woods just wasn't good. Beyonce has her songs that just aren't good/ flopped too. And to be fair, Gen Z is probably only familiar with his embarrassing behavior since they aren't old enough to remember his hits.

 

Also, misandry is rampant among Gen Z pop music fans. Notice how they're dragging him for dropping his sex appeal. That's supposed to be a legitimate criticism? Imagine if a female artist was shamed for that. There'd be outrage.

Not ******* misandry. I've heard it all from Justin apologizers.

 

Oh yes, imagine if a female artist was bodyshamed and had ageist remarks made about her. That never happens. Certainly not on ATRL.

Beside the article doesn't even mention his sex appeal. 

 

Anyway. Beyoncé is still an amazing performer, JT isn't. Beyoncé's last solo album was excellent and one of her best, not to mention very successful. Man of the Woods was none of those things. Beyoncé isn't a messy person like Justin. They are not comparable, hence why they aren't treated the same by Gen Z.

 

Acting like ageism (or misandry ) is the sole reason why Gen Z dislike Justin is nonsensical.

[frenchyisback]

23 hours ago, Stankonia said:

. A host of alleged blind items have been widely attributed to him (though none confirmed), leading to speculation that he’s cheated repeatedly on his wife and may also be balding. 

 

 

 I screamed!

 

They never attack st8 male star for their looks unless they gained a whole lotta weight all at once.

 

They way they are trashing him like they would trash any aging female star.
 

#PoeticJusitice

 

His “Janet Post Super Bowl” era has started and we’re loving it.

 

Edited July 7, 2022 by frenchyisback

[Fanta]

23 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

MJ is the King of Pop. Everyone knows that. But Justin’s moniker is president of Pop. His Stan’s refer to him as that as well

He has STANS?

[Aristide]

12 hours ago, Stankonia said:

Not ******* misandry. I've heard it all from Justin apologizers.

 

Oh yes, imagine if a female artist was bodyshamed and had ageist remarks made about her. That never happens. Certainly not on ATRL.

Beside the article doesn't even mention his sex appeal. 

 

Anyway. Beyoncé is still an amazing performer, JT isn't. Beyoncé's last solo album was excellent and one of her best, not to mention very successful. Man of the Woods was none of those things. Beyoncé isn't a messy person like Justin. They are not comparable, hence why they aren't treated the same by Gen Z.

 

Acting like ageism (or misandry ) is the sole reason why Gen Z dislike Justin is nonsensical.

CStF was released the same year as Lemonade yet outsold any of it's singles by far. Explain that. 4 didn't sell much better than Man of the Woods. Just admit that every artist has their dud and that's ok. Doesn't mean they're a weak artist.

 

And Beyonce is known for being a private person so we don't really know what her personal life is like. Yeah Justin is obviously more open and unconcerned with what people think about him. That's a good thing btw. Think about it, if he was private like Beyonce we wouldn't be able to drag him in the first place.

 

And I never said ageism and misandry is the sole reason for Gen Z disliking Justin, but it's certainly a factor. How come Rihanna can retire from the music industry and still be respected but if a man like Justin does it he gets dragged?

Edited July 7, 2022 by Aristide

[frenchyisback]

I am not sure wassup with the comparison to Beyonce.

 

Urban fans are much more loyal and much less ageist. You ain’t gotta worry about the new generation of black people people disrespecting Beyoncé.

 

She is royalty in our family reunions & barbecues.  

[Stankonia]

2 hours ago, Aristide said:

CStF was released the same year as Lemonade yet outsold any of it's singles by far. Explain that. 4 didn't sell much better than Man of the Woods. Just admit that every artist has their dud and that's ok. Doesn't mean they're a weak artist.

 

And Beyonce is known for being a private person so we don't really know what her personal life is like. Yeah Justin is obviously more open and unconcerned with what people think about him. That's a good thing btw. Think about it, if he was private like Beyonce we wouldn't be able to drag him in the first place.

 

And I never said ageism and misandry is the sole reason for Gen Z disliking Justin, but it's certainly a factor. How come Rihanna can retire from the music industry and still be respected but if a man like Justin does it he gets dragged?

Ok girl, Gen Z hate Justin Timberlake because they are ageist and misandrist (this is not a real thing btw) and because he is transparent with the GP, not because he's an arrogant, condescending cornball as well as a culture vulture who threw Janet and Britney to the wolves that were the early 2000s press. 

[La Reina]

On 7/6/2022 at 6:20 AM, Power love said:

I’m guessing he was ruthless with that as well? I’m scared to read it if this is how he’s doing Justin.

Different authors, the author of this JT article is a woman.

 

And don't be scared to read it lol it's not a negative review, but he only gave the EP a 3.5 out of 5 stars when his review made it seem like a 5-star review. But the point is, he could have trashed the EP and gave it a 0 instead and RS would've still published it even though its unprofessional and biased as hell coming from him.

[modeblock]

On 7/5/2022 at 9:13 PM, Happylittlepunk said:

He was never that cool. He always depended on the productions of Pharrell and timbaland to get him by in the 2000s when he left NSYNC and Britney was there to give him publicity. When he married Jessica bowl everything went downhill his music and image. 

not jessica bowl  

 

OT: Definition of aging like millk. Tired, haggard CLOWN loser! 

[Erreur2 La Nature]

Brittany Spanos really spilled with this article 

[Mr.Link]

He looks like the average 40 year old man  ATRL is so out of touch with reality. 

[modeblock]

On 7/6/2022 at 5:06 AM, Sharapov said:

if this was said about a female everyone would get outraged huh

It's almost as if context matters huh 

[brenda-walsh]

9 hours ago, Aristide said:

CStF was released the same year as Lemonade yet outsold any of it's singles by far. Explain that. 4 didn't sell much better than Man of the Woods. Just admit that every artist has their dud and that's ok. Doesn't mean they're a weak artist.

 

And Beyonce is known for being a private person so we don't really know what her personal life is like. Yeah Justin is obviously more open and unconcerned with what people think about him. That's a good thing btw. Think about it, if he was private like Beyonce we wouldn't be able to drag him in the first place.

 

And I never said ageism and misandry is the sole reason for Gen Z disliking Justin, but it's certainly a factor. How come Rihanna can retire from the music industry and still be respected but if a man like Justin does it he gets dragged?

who cares about having a huge hit when Lemonade was the #1 album of the year WW? and not you acting like 4 and MOTW are on the same level when 4 completely obliterates it. 4 has almost 3x as many streams as MOTW even though it was released 7 years earlier even her self-titled album outsold the 20/20 experience despite having hits half as big. beyoncé has always had a much bigger career than JT, which is showing with her current solo top 10 hit. 

 

JT dug his own grave by continuing to be the biggest douchebag ever. no one cared in the 2000's because they loved his music and his face, but now that both have heavily deteriorated he is getting his (highly justified) backlash 

[Aristide]

On 7/6/2022 at 12:33 AM, Patient Zero said:

I was never a fan of Justin, but he’s still rich and seems to have fun.

 

Looks like winning to me. 
 

Why do we expect so much from these celebrities? The entitlement is disgusting. Most celebs, even washed up ones, are still more successful than most people out there. 

This 100%. When a former mpg or mpb is longer popular we just assume that it's because they're problematic, lacking in talent, or the gp hates them when in reality they just don't care about their career like they used to and that's fine.

Edited July 7, 2022 by Aristide

[brazil]

On 7/6/2022 at 1:14 PM, mrmarrero said:

I think he would look ok/his age if he wasn't trying to pull a Harry Styles. He was never that good looking tbh. 

[Leppie]

On 7/6/2022 at 12:02 PM, Proseductice said:

Was that really necessary omg 

Edited July 9, 2022 by Leppie

[Otter]

Not y'all still watching this clip 

I remember when some bad dancing vid of Beyonce went viral during the OTR2 tour, it happens to everyone. Perfect storm of bad choreo, a bad angle & the wrong day and you have a viral clip. It's not like he's active atm or in the middle or an era. 

Beyond that, let people peak and decline. Sure some peak earlier than others but there's no great mystery to it. JT always took massive gaps between eras. He doesn't have a young fanbase at all lol. And he's one of those guys that age quickly, so there's no sex appeal to make him relevant whereas back in the day my 10 year old self was shaking 

Edited July 9, 2022 by Otter

[Otter]

On 7/7/2022 at 1:00 AM, Protocol said:

That Man of the Woods album was truly career-ending

This also. I mean the 1, 2, 3 catastrophe  of Filthy, Supplies and Man of the Woods 

And the album concept was the perfect chance for twitter to start writing their think pieces about white artists using RnB for clout then going back to their white roots afterwards, despite the fact that the album actually remained true to his RnB roots in the end. 

It was a meh album but it would have done infinitely better as a surprise release without too much time for people to drag him. Songs like Breeze of the Pond, Montanna and Morning Light are uneventful but would of established him a nice AC audience.