base talk Why is Celine Dion considered a legend?

[Kevin Parker]

Also, artists like her who are all about the voice and the ballads, of course people will entirely focus on the big hits, because they're absolute classics. People know Tony Bennett because of I Left My Heart In San Francisco. People know Sinatra because of Fly Me to the Moon, My Way and New York.

[HïFidelity]

11 minutes ago, Cain said:

I swear I’ve never heard a song by her aside from MHWGO  Her songs aren’t really on the radio here I feel and no one I know is a fan of hers

 

But her sales and touring numbers are super impressive so a lot of people must like her

She has and has always had more of an adult contemporary sound. You won’t really hear her music unless you’re purposefully into A/C and/or French music. I’m unfamiliar with her music overall, but she, Norah Jones and Adele have similar appeal and audiences. 

[Rev8]

Imo it's more about the titan stats that she has

it's not as much about the influence that she had

she is one of the legends that stats are bigger than her impact

I mean..she is still a legend tho..but imo the other 2 of the Vocal Trinity, deserve the title more

[swissman]

Also we must think of her less of an American legend than as a WW one too.

[kishi]

This is unacceptable. We respect Celine around here.

[bocelli]

Literally no one calls her that  I expect a legend a to have more than 1 remembered song and to not stop selling after her 4th era

 

 

 

 

[Ricky Wilson]

22 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said:

Because she’s a great singer and sold a lot of records.
 

She has no impact compared to Madonna, Mariah, Whitney & Janet. 

Not MJ's sister being more impactful than Céline  

[Ricky Wilson]

4 minutes ago, swissman said:

Also we must think of her less of an American legend than as a WW one too.

Céline is a WW legend

 

An american legend would be someone like Beyonce' (she isn't actually a legend, but whatever she is she's more of an american one and not a global one)

[swissman]

We should also think of her more as a WW legend than an American one, though she certainly is that too.

 

Consider that her 2016 French-language album sold more first week copies in France, than the 2016 releases of Ariana Grande, Rihanna, Lady Gaga and Britney Spears sold for their first weeks in the US, the world's largest market, and one that is 6x larger than France's.

 

Céline really is THAT French singer, and if you go to Québec she is basically QUEEN.

 

She is the best-selling French-language artist of all time, has the best-selling French language album of all time.

 

Her album S'il suffisait d'aimer went #1 in EVERY major French-speaking country.

 

She has charted French songs in non-French speaking charts too, and one of her French singles even went Top Ten in the UK and Ireland.

She was getting diamond-selling French albums all the way in the 2010s.

 

And most of the success is less about just the song alone and more about CÉLINE and her voice.

 

 

She is a legend, come on!

 

Edited June 13, 2022 by swissman

[swissman]

11 minutes ago, Ricky Wilson said:

Céline is a WW legend

 

An american legend would be someone like Beyonce' (she isn't actually a legend, but whatever she is she's more of an american one and not a global one)

Um Beyoncé is a legend, and not just in America. That is well noted.

[CaptainMusic]

12 minutes ago, Ricky Wilson said:

Not MJ's sister being more impactful than Céline  

Celine has 0 impact

 

Imagine thinking she’s even half as impactful let alone more than Janet, I have to laugh and I don’t even care about her like that.  

[dirrtydiana]

Because even without titanic we still have:

 

the power of love 

it’s all coming back to me now

that’s the way it is

 

[swissman]

22 minutes ago, bocelli said:

Literally no one calls her that  I expect a legend a to have more than 1 remembered song and to not stop selling after her 4th era

 

 

 

 

Fourth era?

Assuming you are only talking about her English eras:

Sales:

Era 1: Unison, 4 million

Era 2: Céline Dion, 5 million

Era 3: The Color of My Love, 20 million

Era 4: Falling Into You, 32 million
Era 5: Let's Talk About Love, 31 million

Era 6: A New Day Has Come, 12 million

Era 7: One Heart, 5 million
Era 8+: generally sold between 1.5-3 million

 

And if we include her French eras, then her biggest drop-off occurs at her 15th era, 18 years after her debut. I know she started off small, but there is nothing in the definition of a legend that says one must instantly sell millions of records. In fact, there is nothing in the definition that even has to do with selling millions of records. It's about talent, respect, reception, peer-appreciation, public adoration, etc. There are plenty of legends with far worse sales and far fewer "remembered songs" than Céline.

 

Edited June 13, 2022 by swissman

[dirrtydiana]

18 minutes ago, Ricky Wilson said:

Not MJ's sister being more impactful than Céline  

“MJ’s sister” is responsible for damn YouTube, Beyoncé, Britney Spears, doja cat, JLo, the style of choreography almost every MPG uses, just to name a few things.

 

your posts are so ignorant it hurts.

take several seats

 

[Sharapov]

some twinks who only listen to today's top hits dont find her a legend? wow then it must be true

[Iiketheair]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celine_Dion#Legacy

 

[Rican]

Some of ya have a lot nerve to go around parading that Madonna is some type of living legend and than have the double nerve to question Celine’s legend status when her career stats are arguably better than Madonna’s. Celine peak was bigger. 

[Daddy]

No idea tbh. Horrible and boring music for old people. But we all know Celine and at leadt 1 or 2 songs so....

[abrahamjmr]

1 hour ago, Love Again said:

So one huge song makes you a legend now? 

She has more than one huge song though.

 

42 minutes ago, bocelli said:

Literally no one calls her that  I expect a legend a to have more than 1 remembered song and to not stop selling after her 4th era

 

 

 

 

But she didn't stop selling after her fourth era.

 

26 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said:

Celine has 0 impact

 

Imagine thinking she’s even half as impactful let alone more than Janet, I have to laugh and I don’t even care about her like that.  

 

Celine has impacted every vocalist out there. Let's stop with these lies.

 

[UnusualBoy]

She's an amazing and highly respected due to that and her work ethic.

[Apolonio ₃₄]

50 minutes ago, Ricky Wilson said:

Not MJ's sister being more impactful than Céline  

Not a Hasley stan trying to shade Janet.  

[Rican]

1 hour ago, HïFidelity said:

She’s only one of the most global pop stars in the history of music…

…and the best selling female artist of all time with real awards to back it up. Not fan fiction or inflated label publications. 
 

 

 

 

[OrgVisual]

Well compared to ATRL's standards, she's a legend:

• Gigantic sales
• A timeless classic
• More than 1 classic hits
• Grammy AOTY winner

If you call your fav a legend then so is Celine 

 

[NausAllien]

You made some points, but when someone sings a song as big as "My Heart Will Go On" they automatically become a legend. It's listed as one of the best selling singles of all time with 18 million copies sold. And the last song to be included among that select few. 

 

I do agree with the other points you made, and I don't think she's been influential the way Whitney and Mariah have been. The only difference between Lara Fabian and Celine is that one was given better songs and had waaaaay more sales, but in terms of style, neither has been really influential.

[brazil]

Some of her 90s performances are enough to make her a legend tbh