discussion Would U Date Someone Thats HIV Positive?

[BILLIONAIRE✘BOY]

9 minutes ago, Click Clack said:

ppl fuming bc others said no  

"You!! barebackers1!!!.."  

[Daddy]

And now the "No" crowd is coming back to waste their time with more replies instead of educating themselves... 

[Not Like The Movies]

4 minutes ago, Daddy said:

And now the "No" crowd is coming back to waste their time with more replies instead of educating themselves... 

like??? They thought they ate.
If you wanna be ignorant with pride then just say that.

[305]

1 hour ago, Mtjjproducer said:

I really don’t understand what undetectable means. I think if means they are less likely to transmit it. I’ve tried looking it up before but didn’t really understand it. What did u look up to make you feel comfortable 

It means that what makes HIV transmissible is extremely low in the positive person which makes it highly unlikely to pass it to another. When I met my bf he told me and explained to me everything and that I had nothing to worry about so of course I trusted him and it's been 4 years and I'm still negative. As long as the person is taking care of themselves there is really no risk

[305]

35 minutes ago, Click Clack said:

ppl fuming bc others said no  

 

25 minutes ago, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said:

"You!! barebackers1!!!.."  

Just say you're uneducated and go ?

[Ferret]

It’s sad but no, i wouldnt risk

[Click Clack]

20 minutes ago, 305 said:

 

Just say you're uneducated and go ?

it’s my choice not to date someone who’s HIV positive 

 

just like it’s my choice not to date an old, wheelchair-bound man

 

or my choice not to date white men

 

you see how that works?

[Ferret]

21 minutes ago, 305 said:

 

Just say you're uneducated and go ?

Why the rAge over saying “no”. It’s our choice. If you want to , thats ok but dont come force you views on others

[Theshigo Washidu]

No

[The7thStranger]

23 minutes ago, 305 said:

 

Just say you're uneducated and go ?

Don't bother arguing with that Nicki stan. You'd need to a jackhammer to get through.

[Click Clack]

1 minute ago, The7thStranger said:

Don't bother arguing with that Nicki stan. You'd need to a jackhammer to get through.

z

 

you don’t know me or **** about me, so push tf on & tread lightly. ?

[GoodGuyGoneGhetto]

No.

[UnusualBoy]

No and don't mind me with your outrage. The health system is pretty shitty here and I know for sure these gays ain't taking PrEp or following their medical treatments as they should so it's a not for me.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Nope, sorry but I'd be paranoid.

[tiagol88]

3 hours ago, Headlock said:

Are you talking about oral herpes? Cause sis 2/3 of the entire world's population has that already, most are just asymptomatic and never show any signs of infection, that's how it spreads so easily 

Not that you should kiss someone with an active cold sore but lighten up a bit 

I'm literally dragging myself with that comment and calling myself a hypochondriac but ok...drag me some more 

Like...everything you said is true. Including the last bit lmao

[tellem]

If someone is undetectable it’s literally not possible to transmit HIV sexually  If you’re dating someone and you trust that they are idk why you would care 

[The7thStranger]

25 minutes ago, Click Clack said:

z

 

you don’t know me or **** about me, so push tf on & tread lightly. ?

[Sazare]

I’d like to think I’d be open to it but tbh there’s always some part of me that’s such a hypochondriac that I’d worry I’d contract it even if their viral load is undetectable

[Daddy]

3 minutes ago, tellem said:

If someone is undetectable it’s literally not possible to transmit HIV sexually 

That's what they don't understand.

 

It's prejudice, discrimination and antagonism based on ignorance and negative stereotypes from decades old heterosexual propaganda. 

 

I just feel bad for the people they throw out for literally nothing. 

[305]

37 minutes ago, The7thStranger said:

Don't bother arguing with that Nicki stan. You'd need to a jackhammer to get through.

I know

The usual with them. It's definitely a choice to remain ignorant and uneducated but what else can you expect 

[yonsé]

2 hours ago, Mtjjproducer said:

I really don’t understand what undetectable means. I think if means they are less likely to transmit it. I’ve tried looking it up before but didn’t really understand it. What did u look up to make you feel comfortable 

the virus exists in your fluids (blood, semen).

 

the virus (like any virus) usually replicates faster than white blood cells can fight it. this is called a "viral load", it is the amount of the virus that exists in your system. if you are on the proper PEP medications, it helps kill the virus in the body. "undetectable" means the viral load is low enough that it is not detected by lab tests, meaning it is impossible to pass sexually (which is absorbed through your mucous membranes in the anus and the tip of the ***** through the passage of bodily fluids).

 

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Most clinics in the UK report a viral load as undetectable if it is below 20-50 copies/ml. However, if your viral load remains below 200 copies/ml (the cut-off used in all studies that provided evidence for U=U), there is no risk of passing HIV to your sexual partners. 

 

https://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/undetectable-viral-load-and-transmission-information-people-hiv#:~:text=Undetectable %3D Untransmittable (U%3DU)&text=It means that when a,as an undetectable viral load.

 

Edited May 11, 2022 by yonsé

[LikeaRebel]

Why not?

[Headlock]

1 hour ago, Click Clack said:

it’s my choice not to date someone who’s HIV positive 

 

just like it’s my choice not to date an old, wheelchair-bound man

 

or my choice not to date white men

 

you see how that works?

Being scared of HIV isn't a sexual preference 

Edited May 11, 2022 by Headlock

[Headlock]

2 hours ago, HeavyMetalAura said:

This is a take that I think is logical. The stigma around poz people is bad and we need to work to destigmatize it, but we can’t pretend the stigma doesn’t exist, and it impacts people with hypochondria - which is a very common mental health condition. And mental health is, you guessed it, also stigmatized. As usual, ATRL completely lacks nuance and is quick to label strangers on the internet to be “ignorant” or “bad people” without understanding larger issues at hand. 
 

——

 

As for me, someone who doesn’t struggle with hypochondria/health anxiety to that extent, yes I would date someone who’s HIV positive. A combo of HIV meds and PreP makes it safe. 

And how much do you want to guess a part of their hypochondriacal feelings towards HIV has to do with being uneducated about U=U 

[Inspirit]

No offense but personaly no, I'm way too paranoid when it comes to STD or sex in general. No matter how much I know about it.

 

The thing is can we really blame people for being scared for their own health though ? I mean, being undetectable is one thing, but better play it safe and know what you're dealing with. As long as both parties are aware of the situation and willing to go on I don't see any problem with it.

Edited May 11, 2022 by Inspirit