Daddy Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Mtjjproducer said: I really don’t understand what undetectable means. I think if means they are less likely to transmit it. I’ve tried looking it up before but didn’t really understand it. What did u look up to make you feel comfortable It's very simple. HIV meds suppress the viral load in your body to a point that the virus doesn't even show up in a lab test anymore. That is why it's called "undetectable". It's not gone obviously but it can't be transmitted to the other body.
Distantconstellation Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 Nope. I would be too paranoid about catching it even if the chances are extremely low. Either way though i dont wanna date anyone. Too much drama. Idk why some of u get mad that people dont wanna date someone who is hiv+ or who is white or who is asian or whos is fat. Its up to people to choose, not you. A lot of u only go after jocks and ignore everyone else so idk what u are going off about.
JBJT2786 Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mtjjproducer said: I really don’t understand what undetectable means. I think if means they are less likely to transmit it. I’ve tried looking it up before but didn’t really understand it. What did u look up to make you feel comfortable It means hiv treatment has worked well enough that greatly reduces the chance of the one who has HIV to infect someone esle.
Into The Void Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Materialboy215 said: Would U consider dating someone that was HIV positive? I know a lot of Gays can be very ignorant when it comes to this topic so I was just wondering if ATRL would consider dating someone with HIV? TBH I'm not opposed long as your undetectable, being in this community your going to encounter someone thats HIV positive its pretty much inevitable. I rather someone just be straight up with me from the jump so I can then decide what "I" want to do but more than not that doesn't happen. I also always been really good with my sexual health and get tested 1/2 times a yr even when I was in a longterm relationship for over 6 yrs I was still going once a yr to get tested. Whats your thoughts? Yes honestly if you are undetectable its safe now a days
HeavyMetalAura Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, lostcause said: Probably not, because I’m a hypochondriac and that anxiety brought into the dynamic would be unfair to the person and myself. It’s ok not to date someone if you understand you’re own trauma/hang ups/ flaws will not work together with what they bring to the table. They deserve someone who doesn’t struggle with irrational health fears in general. This is a take that I think is logical. The stigma around poz people is bad and we need to work to destigmatize it, but we can’t pretend the stigma doesn’t exist, and it impacts people with hypochondria - which is a very common mental health condition. And mental health is, you guessed it, also stigmatized. As usual, ATRL completely lacks nuance and is quick to label strangers on the internet to be “ignorant” or “bad people” without understanding larger issues at hand. —— As for me, someone who doesn’t struggle with hypochondria/health anxiety to that extent, yes I would date someone who’s HIV positive. A combo of HIV meds and PreP makes it safe. Edited May 11, 2022 by HeavyMetalAura
Peroxide Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 This thread is BRIMMING with ignorance. Educate yourselves.
JBJT2786 Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Distantconstellation said: Nope. I would be too paranoid about catching it even if the chances are extremely low. Either way though i dont wanna date anyone. Too much drama. Idk why some of u get mad that people dont wanna date someone who is hiv+ or who is white or who is asian or whos is fat. Its up to people to choose, not you. A lot of u only go after jocks and ignore everyone else so idk what u are going off about. Dating or not someone based on their race is disgusting af. NO CAP. You can choose not to date someone who is HIV+ or fat without being disgusting about it. It's not about the choice it's the way you act on it. I don't typically go for white guys but me saying I don't wanna date white guys is just racist. Not even a preference you literally won't date someone for the color of their skin. Like . Same applies here.
CaptainMusic Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 32 minutes ago, lostcause said: Probably not, because I’m a hypochondriac and that anxiety brought into the dynamic would be unfair to the person and myself. It’s ok not to date someone if you understand you’re own trauma/hang ups/ flaws will not work together with what they bring to the table. They deserve someone who doesn’t struggle with irrational health fears in general. MTE
JBJT2786 Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said: I’m a hypochondriac so I don’t think I would This is understandable. But there's guys on here who get raw dogged by randomsevery week and don't get tested talking mess.
Frogger17 Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, JBJT2786 said: Dating or not someone based on their race is disgusting af. NO CAP. You can choose not to date someone who is HIV+ or fat without being disgusting about it. It's not about the choice it's the way you act on it. I don't typically go for white guys but me saying I don't wanna date white guys is just racist. Not even a preference you literally won't date someone for the color of their skin. Like . Same applies here. It's not an issue people are ever going to see eye-to-eye on, or see any progress for that matter, as people are shallow and don't understand that their preferences are informed by their upbringing and society. Ultimately, you can't do anything about it, because it's regulating people's desires, which is futile. Tbh, I wouldn't ever want to date anyone who doesn't like people that look like me but makes an exception for me.
BANKS Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) imagine being HIV+ and having the displeasure of reading the responses in this thread (fueled by fear due to discrimination or lack of education)… especially whilst battling the daily mental changes of self-loathing and feeling unlovable because you’re living with a disease people immediately judge you for? my boyfriend is HIV+. i knew about this before committing, and i’m not gonna lie - i was terrified at first. it took so much research and self-EDUCATING to come to terms with it. some people are BORN HIV+. some got it their first time having sex. some were victims of someone who purposely infected them. and others got it from sleeping around. either way, it’s unfair to judge, and look at them any different… it’s discrimination really. honesty/openness with your partner and self-care is essential for the HIV+ individual. they need to actively take their medication to remain undetectable and they won’t be able to pass it on to you. neglecting their self-care will put their partner in danger. for the HIV- individual, it’s important to not judge, block out the false narratives, and get yourself educated. there’s PrEP available as a way to protect yourself. regardless, don’t go into anything blindly and PROTECT YOURSELF always. some people are mentally deranged and go around infecting people on purpose. but not everyone is like that… just wanted to encourage y’all to be kind and not judge/discriminate. HIV+ people are human and worthy of love & acceptance. Edited May 11, 2022 by BANKS
The7thStranger Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, HeavyMetalAura said: This is a take that I think is logical. The stigma around poz people is bad and we need to work to destigmatize it, but we can’t pretend the stigma doesn’t exist, and it impacts people with hypochondria - which is a very common mental health condition. And mental health is, you guessed it, also stigmatized. As usual, ATRL completely lacks nuance and is quick to label strangers on the internet to be “ignorant” or “bad people” without understanding larger issues at hand. —— As for me, someone who doesn’t struggle with hypochondria/health anxiety to that extent, yes I would date someone who’s HIV positive. A combo of HIV meds and PreP makes it safe. Agreed with both of your points. That being said, we should remember that this kind of logic isn't often the framework for that "no." Sometimes, that no comes from a place of ignorance, "How could you be so reckless?", "What a dirty ****!", and "I don't want your nasty!" Edited May 11, 2022 by The7thStranger
Symmetra Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 Is prep something you have to take everyday? or like only before sex?
Rev8 Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 Am actually surprised there aren't as many "No" answers still sad to see so many tho..hopefully we are changing for the better and getting more information on HIV (along with a cure)
Delirious Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 Now im gay myself but i just wanted to ask, but why do gay oeople have a higher precentage of hiv+ than straight people? it it unsafe sex? Condoms breaking?
Lady Claire Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 Some of you probably go out there having bareback sex with anyone on Grindr that says they are "negative" but wouldn't date an HIV positive guy that takes care of himself and it's most likely undetectable We're not in 1980 anymore. If you use condoms and takes care you'll be safe, whether the guy is positive or not. I did have safe sex with an HIV positive guy last year and just weeks ago i took an test and guess what? I'm negative. Of course i wouldn't mind, if the person opens up about it from the get go.
Daddy Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, Delirious said: Now im gay myself but i just wanted to ask, but why do gay oeople have a higher precentage of hiv+ than straight people? it it unsafe sex? Condoms breaking? Testing. Heterosexuals never really got tested because it started out as "gay cancer". Less tests for heterosexuals = less confirmed cases. In the UK there's been more HIV infections detected in heterosexuals than in gay men for the very first time this year. Straight people missed decades of education on the matter. Plus the fact that the chance of an infection via anal infection is 18 times higher than getting it through vaginal penetration.
Before Today Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 Honestly I don't think I can/educated enough. I'm willing to learn though.
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