supertiffany Posted April 22, 2022 Author Posted April 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Insanity said: Ive noticed one big issue at least in my job. Communication vastly sucks in WFH. Those who WFH at my job seem to do so many tthngs wrong because things arent communicated to them correctly. We have meetings both those who WFH are not required to attend so it makes communication an issue depends, WFH or remote makes communication faster, imagine having to walk around just to say something face to face meetings are great for once or twice a week, especially for general meetings
harwee Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) That's actually not true. it depends on the company, and depends on the country. WFH has plenty of benefits for companies. It saves them a lot of money, its easier than ever to send work offshore, and its so much easier to hire and fire. From that logic, you can somehow tell which company and country would reject/approve of the practice (generally speaking). Edited April 22, 2022 by harwee
John Slayne Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Insanity said: Ive noticed one big issue at least in my job. Communication vastly sucks in WFH. Those who WFH at my job seem to do so many tthngs wrong because things arent communicated to them correctly. We have meetings both those who WFH are not required to attend so it makes communication an issue that's just lousy management. at my last job we had mandatory online meetings three times a week where all updates were communicated clearly. if something came up in-between i would get a call from my manager. literally no difference to having face to face meetings, you don't need to be physically in the same room to talk to someone in 2022
Into The Void Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, John Slayne said: that's just lousy management. at my last job we had mandatory online meetings three times a week where all updates were communicated clearly. if something came up in-between i would get a call from my manager. literally no difference to having face to face meetings, you don't need to be physically in the same room to talk to someone in 2022 well this part is true a bit we have bad communication but its also from the company we are a vendor for too
Into The Void Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 i do tech support so a majority of what we do is in teams chat but the only problem is no one ever responds! lol
supertiffany Posted April 23, 2022 Author Posted April 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Insanity said: i do tech support so a majority of what we do is in teams chat but the only problem is no one ever responds! lol that's an attitude problem lol
Alldeezy Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 Look after covid. Its hard to even work in public areas anymore. I have 2 friends who work from home and they have so much money I wish I was smart and do what they do
Eric. Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 When it comes to my job, it's totally about control. They're obsessed with recording what everyone is doing on the security cameras. It's ridiculous because there's no difference at all in the work except for the annoying commute. I truly do hope whomever is at the top who made the decision to end WFH for us has the most miserable life ever to exist.
EnigmaticAndroid Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/21/2022 at 5:32 AM, katara said: It's because the company needs to justify those expensive office spaces and having hired middle management who have no real purpose other than to look over the shoulders of everyone. Personally I would like to have a hybrid system where I work 2-3 days in the office and 2-3 days from home during the week. Seems like a good compromise. Or make it so that everyone can choose which days they wanna work from home or in the office. I tried full WFH for some months and found it pretty isolating tbh. The problem is that those 8 hours of work drained me just as much at home so I had no energy and will to go out and socialise after work is done so I stayed inside and alone much more while working from home. That's honestly the best solution, at least for me.
slik Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) All positions should be work from home/remote when an option in my opinion. It's more productive for most people, cuts down on commute cost and time and helps avoid some of the petty office politics you deal with in person. It also saves companies overhead as they don't need a building and all the cost associated with that if their employees are all remote. It's a win-win. Edited April 25, 2022 by slik
G.U.Y_Del_Rey Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) I blame Camila Cabello's voice Spoiler I don't like work from home because I don't get to directly socialize with work partners (I've been forced to do WFH since April 2020) , but I can see why people like it (e.g. commutes can be annoying) and it shouldn't be rejected/frowned. Edited April 25, 2022 by G.U.Y_Del_Rey
slik Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 Why do so many people WANT to socialize with their co-workers?! I don't want anything to do with most of them.
Archetype Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, slik said: Why do so many people WANT to socialize with their co-workers?! I don't want anything to do with most of them. Same, I hate socializing with my coworkers, I can’t imagine going back to sitting next to them or grabbing lunch everyday just for the sake of working together. We can do that perfectly fine over the internet
thetea Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 i think it depends on the country and business you are in and whether or not face to face contact is beneficial to your work. i've heard that the businesses don't wanna lease out buildings for no reason since people want to work from home, and that it makes it more difficult to communicate with coworkers. I think working from home is a great idea for a lot of jobs tho
shinyshimmery Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) The company I work for is moving to a hybrid model where we would only go to the office for "moments that matter". Apparently, we are only required to go one day of the month (and we can choose which day we want) starting May 2nd. I love the company I work for and they are being extremely generous with their approach of the workplace of the future. However, the company has the current building leased for a good 10 years I believe and they had just signed a new lease in 2018.... so I can see why they would want that investment to be utilized. But yes, I agree that WFH is a lot better and severely eliminates pollution and road rage! Some people are starting to feel fatigue from WFH, but I would very much like to stay a WFH employee.... especially in this climate with ridiculous gas prices and everything going up in price so much. Edited April 28, 2022 by shinyshimmery
Homebrand Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 I think a combination of both is ideal (3 days work, 2 days from home). I think the government would also have a concern for the economy, especially CBD businesses that also got hit hard with no tourism either, which needs office workers which are their main source of income. I also do fully believe that productivity, communication and the long term social / team aspect is important to keep things face to face. But in saying that, I do agree with a lot of points made in this thread and OP which is why i think a combination / hybrid approach is best.
gab00 Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 they want you out cause you spend more being out it is really that simple, yes they want you spending more in gas, transport, clothes and eating out.
gab00 Posted May 4, 2022 Posted May 4, 2022 Just now, gab00 said: they want you out cause you spend more being out it is really that simple, yes they want you spending more in gas, transport, clothes and eating out. countries (well, governments) are having trouble making their economies grow, covid made it all worse and every bit of a change matters (to them)
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