celeb news Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Trial

[Daydream]

1 minute ago, for lovers said:

Yes I hated how Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein were praised so much by the media, they get away with everything.

 

[for lovers]

4 minutes ago, Daydream said:

 

 

Correct!

[東京.]

20 minutes ago, Sept said:

It's disturbing how Depp is being praised as a hero by the MEDIA

 

Men truly get away with everything huh? 

apart from the fact that it's been literally proven that she lied, a tremendous amount.

the fact his ex partners have supported him, while it's on record that amber has also abused hers just goes to show. he, as a man, is a victim of domestic abuse. the people siding with her are supporting an abuser here. it's not about "men" here, it's about a victim of domestic abuse being successful in proving that. she tried to go out of her way to end him and his career, after putting him through years of abuse - to the point where she caused mutilation to him. all the facts are there to be seen and have been provided to a court of law. all of you faux-feminists just being like bUt ShEs A wOmAn means absolute shxt. this case is a landmark, and it's a landmark for men who have suffered at the hands of domestic abuse from women. that's not to say men haven't previously gotten away with a lot in the past because they have, but that's not the case here. she is an abuser, and it's been shown.

[#Beautiful]

33 minutes ago, BobBertran1992 said:

The GOP celebrated Johnny’s win on Twitter yesterday  You Depp apologists are being clowned by the right and you don’t even realize it.

 

https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1532088505802842119?s=20&t=WfmDU1pHZ5-jSLI_Uu3sFA

so you'll just let your hatred towards a political party dictate your feelings about this although the two are utterly unrelated?

[Daydream]

2 minutes ago, for lovers said:

Correct!

Mess sorry sis I didn’t realise you were being ironic. It’s just that there’s genuinely people who are saying that kind of rubbish so it’s hard to tell.

[Save My Life]

2 hours ago, #Beautiful said:

I knew she would lose from the very beginning. I knew someone JUST like her a while ago. That person abused their partner (who was my friend at the time) behind closed doors but made themselves be the victim in front of everyone and to this day no one believes my (ex)friend although I was there. Abuse goes deeper than man hit woman 

This. I was in a situation like this less than two years ago myself. It nearly destroyed my life, and this verdict is made me feel vindicated myself almost. Not a Depp fan, but I would NEVER support someone like Heard. 
 

 

[PlERRE]

Camille Vasquez did THAT. 

[#Beautiful]

2 minutes ago, Save My Life said:

This. I was in a situation like this less than two years ago myself. It nearly destroyed my life, and this verdict is made me feel vindicated myself almost. Not a Depp fan, but I would NEVER support someone like Heard. 
 

 

I didn't care for Depp personally for one second in my lifespan. However, looking into this case made me feel sick to my stomach. Abusers like these are smart, calculated, and worse than all, not self aware. They live in their delusion. They build up the lies to cope. And they'll convince you their lies are the truth. They'll make you feel like you're insane, like you're the problem, like you deserve it. They'll corner you and take everything away from you. They even have the power to turn everyone in your life AGAINST you. They're really smart emotionally, but for all the wrong reasons and purposes. And they're really powerful too. This stuff goes really deep. I'm sending you love and hugs, you're a survivor 

[Save My Life]

1 minute ago, #Beautiful said:

I didn't care for Depp personally for one second in my lifespan. However, looking into this case made me feel sick to my stomach. Abusers like these are smart, calculated, and worse than all, not self aware. They live in their delusion. They build up the lies to cope. And they'll convince you their lies are the truth. They'll make you feel like you're insane, like you're the problem, like you deserve it. They'll corner you and take everything away from you. They even have the power to turn everyone in your life AGAINST you. They're really smart emotionally, but for all the wrong reasons and purposes. And they're really powerful too. This stuff goes really deep. I'm sending you love and hugs, you're a survivor 

Exactly!! Thank you for your perspectives and even more for your kind words. I’m sending the same energy back to you, friend 

[xfreshkidxx]

5 hours ago, Merlls said:

 @suburbannature We are waiting for your specialist review of the decision. You promised all of us that Amber’s win was a matter of time. 

 

 

It surely was a rude awakening 

Edited June 2, 2022 by xfreshkidxx

[Melquiades]

It’s okay to recognize that Depp is a terrible person himself too and not wanting to support him but people willingly supporting and cheering on Amber really GROSS ME OUT. Specially those who are obviously doing it with a political agenda. 
 

 

[Raiden]

This is how an innocent ex behaves ⬇️⬇️ with iconic command of the truth and presenting it with grace, class, and so much (inner) beauty. An example for women — heck, for men too. And JD, being a good man, knows it only too well now. He is well aware that he downgraded bigly when he went from dating with KM to with AH — that's like the relationship equivalent of politically moving from Martin Luther King to Adolf Hitler.

 

 

Edited June 2, 2022 by Raiden

[simon_xcx]

1 hour ago, MARTYN said:

 

People have been telling you for weeks she wasn’t making a case for the jury and had no credible evidence but you just called everyone misogynistic when they pointed this out. 
 

We now can be sure Amber is an abuser! 

that is not, at all, what this case was about. winning a defamation case does not mean your ex is abusive, does not make you innocent of DV, it simply means you won a defamation case

[BubbleGomme]

5 hours ago, Ice Cream Skies said:

As if y'all needed any more proof you're on the wrong side by being pro-Amber.  There you have it!

 

Those of you who are defending Amber because you blindly "believe all women!" and "believe all victims!" without using or having critical thinking are going to be gooped, victimized and taken advantage of out in the real world. Trust me. I know the thought of that makes you wet, considering you want bans for anyone who doesn't agree with you on this topic, but... It's not too late to consider perspectives outside of emotion-driven echo chambers. They're both morons, but Amber's deranged and extremely manipulative. If you're happy to be used and exploited due to your black/white views of things, so be it, but don't get mad at those of us who've seen through her facade.

 

1 hour ago, 東京. said:

apart from the fact that it's been literally proven that she lied, a tremendous amount.

the fact his ex partners have supported him, while it's on record that amber has also abused hers just goes to show. he, as a man, is a victim of domestic abuse. the people siding with her are supporting an abuser here. it's not about "men" here, it's about a victim of domestic abuse being successful in proving that. she tried to go out of her way to end him and his career, after putting him through years of abuse - to the point where she caused mutilation to him. all the facts are there to be seen and have been provided to a court of law. all of you faux-feminists just being like bUt ShEs A wOmAn means absolute shxt. this case is a landmark, and it's a landmark for men who have suffered at the hands of domestic abuse from women. that's not to say men haven't previously gotten away with a lot in the past because they have, but that's not the case here. she is an abuser, and it's been shown.

Said everything that needed to be said.

 

It's such a dangerous take to think that all men or all women must be believed at all costs. Quite naive, too.

 

A man can be a victim, and a woman can be a victim. A man can be an abuser, and a woman can be an abuser as well. This isn't a black-or-white issue.

 

Now, I don't believe Johnny is entirely innocent in this particular case but from what we've seen and heard from Amber, she IS a liar, an abuser and she also needs help.

Edited June 2, 2022 by BubbleGomme

[Raiden]

38 minutes ago, PlERRE said:

Camille Vasquez did THAT. 

But she doesn't count as a woman for the white feminist AH cult.

 

They use "misogyny" almost as if they are getting paid by the letter to utter that term but the racist tinged misogyny directed at a Latina is fine and dandy, because she is the enemy. That double crossing of women has always been a justified activity of white feminists (they attacked Monica Lewinsky way back in support of Hillary and Bill,  and recently they attacked Biden's exes who flagged him as a dirty old man who doesn't keep his hands off of women.

 

This toxic white feminist urge to "box in" feminism in some narrow confines where they alone get to decide who the good guys and the bad guys are (and which AH plotted to take advantage of), was categorically rejected by the court of law.

[State of Grace.]

5 hours ago, NausAllien said:

There are multiple reasons it sets a dangerous precedent:

• Amber's statement were as vague as possible. She didn't mention any specific details about the abuse, and didn't mention the abuse itself, just that she was a person linked to domestic abuse. A lawyer actually went through the op-ed to see if there was anything that could potentially be seen as defamatory and didn't find anything. She also never mentioned Depp's name.
• Amber didn't write the headline, one of the claims that were deemed defamatory. Depp's team tried to argue she "republished" the op-ed with that headline by simply tweeting about it with a link. The judge specifically wrote in the instructions that hyperlinks shouldn't be considered republication, and yet the jury found it to be a case of republication because they claimed she wrote the op-ed.
• Amber had a considerable amount of evidence of multiple forms of abuse, from financial, to destruction of property, to verbal, coercive control, and physical abuse as well. She had text messages, witness testimonies, audio recordings, a video, dozens of pictures, etc. 
• For the jury to consider that she was lying about being abuse they had to either disregard EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE she presented OR consider that somehow her having responded verbally or physically to abuse means she wasn't abused at all.
• Even taken at face value, the statements are ostensibly true. She did become a person representing domestic abuse and she did face our culture's wrath. If writing these factual statements and being extremely vague is enough to be considered liable for defamation, then free speech is totally non-existent.

Think of all the women that don't have 1/3 of the evidence Amber had to support her claims. All they have is their truth, and now they can't even share it publicly or they could face serious repercussions. #MeToo was supposed to help people come forward with allegations, even if they didn't think they had enough evidence to take their accusers to court. The idea was that they would be believed. But after this trial, I think most people will think twice or three times before speaking up because Depp has set the precendent that you can sue them, use a PR firm to get public support, and get a favorable verdict.

 

So no matter how way you look at this whole mess, this verdict is terrible. It's terrible whether you believe Amber's claims or not. It's terrible if you believe people have a right to tell their truth, not naming anyone, being as vague as possible. If you believe free speech exists, then you cannot agree with this verdict.

 

  

[FOCK]

7 hours ago, Headlock said:

These are the same people who didn’t see an issue with Elon Musk, who is the literal embodiment of Lex Luthor, posting a meme disparaging pride culture regarding corporations (that was made by and for queer people), as if his edgelord alt-right followers wouldn’t fully just take that homophobic dog-whistle and run with it 

Elon, as in Amber’s likely baby daddy, ex boyfriend and the one paying her legal fees & “pledges”? 

[Communion]

6 hours ago, Ari29 said:

The point, which you continue to gloss over, is that like Courtney Amber was believed initially

I'm sorry but at this point you're being exhausting and obtuse. There is literally no connection between Amber Heard and this random case you've decided to cite other than both being white blonde women; there is literally no overlap in the way both are perceived. White women's whiteness becomes a moot point of privilege when they interact with white men. There is literally historical trends of white men who beat and kill their wives and framing black men for what they did; framing their domestic violence as rogue murder because people's innate refusal to believe white men's violence, especially towards their wives, like Johnny's.

 

6 hours ago, Ari29 said:

Amber submitting fraudulent evidence, conspiring to get a fake testimony (UK), the evidence not aligning with the injuries and her lying under oath in real time

- The court did not find that Heard submitted fraudulent evidence; I can only imagine you're trying to reference photos that have metadata on them with specific dates despite expert testimony about how opening photos across multiple devices can make a file seem like it was updated despite not. Though you're also the person who doubled-down and claimed photos were edited or manipulated despite it being explained in court that the program used to store said photos on Amber's devices literally did not have such photo-editing capabilities.

- You believe they don't align with her injuries; Depp's team literally submitted medical reports alleged to be Amber's which detail the health conditions of a random man. 

- Depp literally lied on the stand for much of his time on it, literally having to walk back an initial denial that he headbutted her. What does it mean when a rich white man lies under oath about physically assaulting his wife?

 

6 hours ago, Ari29 said:

Her saying on tape for him to tell people he was a victim of abuse and her knowing the world wouldn’t believe is important to consider in this argument. 

This shows you're unserious about domestic violence and again I have to repeat myself - you're trolling. 

To even ignore the absurdity in you comparing defamation to murder, you're comparing the abstract question on if hitting back means someone can remain a victim or is also an abuser (DARVO) to clear-cut murder and trying to make them moral equivalents.

 

Because, yes, what we're discussing is reactions to abuse; Amber reacted to Depp's violence. Waldman is probably going to get an island bought for him by Depp for leaking the edited clips out of evidence that saw him kicked out of the case that you just referenced.

 

Which is why you somehow think it's damning that Amber pushed back against Johnny criticizing her for calling the police on him for attacking her - arguing that she could have held her own - and to make his argument to the world that him doing things like hitting her in the face with his phone were okay because she would defend herself:

Let alone that it was found impossible in court for Amber to have caused his cut finger, meaning the clip you're referencing describes a night where the worst thing Amber did to Johnny as a form of "abuse" was throw his cell phone off their balcony - the same cell phone he had just whipped at her face, leaving a welt, documented in pictures for which you don't believe are real because you think it couldn't have hurt that bad if the bruise wasn't dark. 

Edited June 2, 2022 by Communion

[MARTYN]

24 minutes ago, simon_xcx said:

that is not, at all, what this case was about. winning a defamation case does not mean your ex is abusive, does not make you innocent of DV, it simply means you won a defamation case

They ruled that all 3 statements made my Amber were false. It’s absolutely abusive to falsely claim you’re abused by someone and putting them through hell. 
 

The judicial system has spoken - Amber heard is a liar and acted out of malice. 

[HauntinglyHollow]

On 5/25/2022 at 5:19 PM, suburbannature said:

1. It's "awaken."

2. I'll let the jury do that.

I was promised an awakening 

[diboy]

Love Camille Vasquez and Dr. Curry! 

[Mobility Mary]

56 minutes ago, #Beautiful said:

I didn't care for Depp personally for one second in my lifespan. However, looking into this case made me feel sick to my stomach. Abusers like these are smart, calculated, and worse than all, not self aware. They live in their delusion. They build up the lies to cope. And they'll convince you their lies are the truth. They'll make you feel like you're insane, like you're the problem, like you deserve it. They'll corner you and take everything away from you. They even have the power to turn everyone in your life AGAINST you. They're really smart emotionally, but for all the wrong reasons and purposes. And they're really powerful too. This stuff goes really deep. I'm sending you love and hugs, you're a survivor 

Girl stfu lmao

[BobBertran1992]

1 hour ago, #Beautiful said:

so you'll just let your hatred towards a political party dictate your feelings about this although the two are utterly unrelated?

You have to extremely naive, in a scale that is so unspeakable,to believe that they're not related. 

[#Beautiful]

Just now, BobBertran1992 said:

You have to extremely naive, in a scale that is so unspeakable,to believe that they're not related. 

did not answer my question, at all, and the dodge was not subtle, at all

[BobBertran1992]

1 minute ago, #Beautiful said:

did not answer my question, at all, and the dodge was not subtle, at all

Ah yes, the first question. Yes, I'm going to let my ''hate'' for that party dictate my decision, because they're a political party, not someone who did not invite me to their birthday: I hate what they stand for, and I hate that they block measures to progress society (in the US). If they're celebrating this it's because it sets a precedent for powerful men to shut victims down who speak up against their abusers. 

 

Notice, for instance, how JK Rowling wrote her essay against trans rights, and then was quoted by a GOP senator (and now many states are criminalizing trans youth). The GOP is a party that is going to do everything it can to destroy the lives of vulnerable people, and that includes victims of abuse of any kind or any gender.  

 

Again, I hate the GOP, and any conservative party, because I hate what they stand for, and how that ideology wrecks people's lifes.