ClashAndBurn Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 17 hours ago, Monster Megamind said: People in this thread are delusional if they think CNN should go under. They are the one who send journalists to the ground. Your favorite online political commentators are just that- commentators. They don't have the budget or the resources to do thorough investigation. These online political gurus just leech off the articles from these media sites. In fact, YouTube should work out a model where they MUST compensate to the real sources. CNN is a disgusting propaganda channel and a joke. Both they and MSNBC deserve to die (as companies) for good. Cable news is on its death bed as more people are tuning out and cutting cords, and these companies losing their outsized influence on the electorate will be a net positive for the world. Independent journalists like Jordan Chariton, Michael Tracey, and Abby Martin do investigative work all the time. Corporate media, however, tries to keep a monopoly on information and the government is more than happy to oblige by barring those journalists from having the access because it means they don’t have to answer any questions that are actually tough. With any luck, they’ll layoff some of their godawful headliners like Don Lemon. Doubtful that they go far beyond firing low-level staffers though.
BeenTheShit Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: CNN is a disgusting propaganda channel and a joke. Both they and MSNBC deserve to die (as companies) for good. Cable news is on its death bed as more people are tuning out and cutting cords, and these companies losing their outsized influence on the electorate will be a net positive for the world. Independent journalists like Jordan Chariton, Michael Tracey, and Abby Martin do investigative work all the time. Corporate media, however, tries to keep a monopoly on information and the government is more than happy to oblige by barring those journalists from having the access because it means they don’t have to answer any questions that are actually tough. With any luck, they’ll layoff some of their godawful headliners like Don Lemon. Doubtful that they go far beyond firing low-level staffers though. Let me guess... you watch the "fair and balanced" Fox News network.
ClashAndBurn Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, BeenTheShit said: Let me guess... you watch the "fair and balanced" Fox News network. Uhhhhh, no? All cable news is garbage. I single out those networks because they have the most influence on people in my family and others that I know personally. Fox News is also in a position where it can’t really fail in the same way that CNN and MSNBC are crumbling right now. They’ve declined but they’re still doing better due to the fact that they are an outrage machine opposed to the administration that is currently in power.
BeenTheShit Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Uhhhhh, no? All cable news is garbage. I single out those networks because they have the most influence on people in my family and others that I know personally. Fox News is also in a position where it can’t really fail in the same way that CNN and MSNBC are crumbling right now. They’ve declined but they’re still doing better due to the fact that they are an outrage machine opposed to the administration that is currently in power. I don't think all of it is garbage. Each channel has their good and bad anchors/personalities and reporters/journalist. For me it's the opposite, Fox News is what my immediate and most of my extended family watches. Edited April 21, 2022 by BeenTheShit rephrased
ClashAndBurn Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, BeenTheShit said: For me it's the opposite, Fox News is what my immediate and most of my extended family watches. I don't really know about my extended family since I haven't seen any of them since... I wanna say Thanksgiving 2015, but for my immediate family, my boomer dad gets his news from Twitter and then my brother and mother are Maddow afficionados. As for your opinion on whether or not the cable news "genre" is garbage, I guess that's fair. To me though, in my years of exposure to media, it just seems to follow one main purpose: to persuade rather than to inform.
Bears01 Posted April 21, 2022 Author Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: I don't really know about my extended family since I haven't seen any of them since... I wanna say Thanksgiving 2015, but for my immediate family, my boomer dad gets his news from Twitter and then my brother and mother are Maddow afficionados. As for your opinion on whether or not the cable news "genre" is garbage, I guess that's fair. To me though, in my years of exposure to media, it just seems to follow one main purpose: to persuade rather than to inform. To be fair, during the daytime hours (aka the hours nobody is watching) MSNBC, CNN and yes, even Fox News actually report….the news. it’s the prime time hours when the characters come out to “report”
Vermillion Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 Didn't want to steal your thunder @Bears01 so I'll let you change the thread title and OP
dman4life Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 Because literally nobody asked for this. Not even the most loyal of CNN viewers don't care to have extra content from them
Bears01 Posted April 21, 2022 Author Posted April 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Espresso said: Didn't want to steal your thunder @Bears01 so I'll let you change the thread title and OP Thank you king, updating OP
GhostBox Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, dman4life said: Because literally nobody asked for this. Not even the most loyal of CNN viewers don't care to have extra content from them Exactly I watch cnn but I’m not paying for their streaming service ?
BeenTheShit Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 Wow that's truly embarrassing. Heads must be rolling right now considering the amount of money they poured into launching it.
Communion Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 43 minutes ago, Espresso said: Didn't want to steal your thunder @Bears01 so I'll let you change the thread title and OP
slik Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 46 minutes ago, dman4life said: Because literally nobody asked for this. Not even the most loyal of CNN viewers don't care to have extra content from them THIS I have CNN on in the background most of the day and I had zero desire to get CNN+
Bears01 Posted April 21, 2022 Author Posted April 21, 2022 1 minute ago, slik said: THIS I have CNN on in the background most of the day and I had zero desire to get CNN+ Honestly, you’d have had to pay me to subscribe to this CNN thinking they’re equivalent to fox in terms of loyal viewers is like DC thinking they can compete with Marvel
getback Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 deserved. another flop for Warner they can't catch a break and yeah who the **** thought it'd be a good idea?
dman4life Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 4 hours ago, GhostBox said: Exactly I watch cnn but I’m not paying for their streaming service ? 3 hours ago, slik said: THIS I have CNN on in the background most of the day and I had zero desire to get CNN+ Precisely! I enjoy CNN but it's usually something I'll have on in the background while working from home, cooking or cleaning. Beyond that I wouldn't subscribe to or watch CNN+ even if it were free
Katamari Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 They didn’t even offer live viewing for the main channel like what we’re they thinking chris Wallace is probably fuming
Mellark Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/19/2022 at 9:51 PM, BeenTheShit said: Honestly, if CNN+ offered regular CNN, $6 a month would be an absolute steal and many people, myself included, would probably cancel their TV subscriptions. At this point, I basically pay $100+ for cable TV just so I can watch CNN, HLN, and MSNBC. I didn't realize there was a thread before but why don't you try YouTubeTV is like cable but it's $60 and you get the CNN channels.
Mellark Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 14 hours ago, Bloodflowers. said: this TANKED harder than Familia 10k people used it. I am on the FLOOR.
midnightdawn Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) If you read the article this didn't actually flop. The new owners who just took over were just against it and chose to cancel it. It's numbers were actually ok, and even if they weren't you wouldn't cancel such a venture so quickly based on less than one month of operating unless you were against it completely and didn't want to try to make it work. Quote The decision puts an abrupt end to an ambitious and aggressive venture that people familiar with the matter say rankled David Zaslav, the new CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery, from the start. Zaslav was annoyed by the decision of Jason Kilar, the former CEO of WarnerMedia when it was owned by AT&T, to launch CNN+ just weeks before Discovery was set to take over operations. But he was unable to communicate with WarnerMedia management, owing to legal boundaries surrounding the merger process. Edited April 22, 2022 by midnightdawn
ClashAndBurn Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 39 minutes ago, midnightdawn said: If you read the article this didn't actually flop. The new owners who just took over were just against it and chose to cancel it. It's numbers were actually ok, and even if they weren't you wouldn't cancel such a venture so quickly based on less than one month of operating unless you were against it completely and didn't want to try to make it work. 10,000 daily viewers is an utter failure. How could you possibly consider this a success???
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