More Than A Melody Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Headlock said: The way you just keep proving my point *chef's kiss* This is literally my point, you BEHAVE like you still are 14 years old I could copy paste your posts into a tumblr from 2013 and they wouldn't be out of place at all Can't wait for her to chart above artists apparently outselling her next year You just say things, like, whatever comes to your mind to try to get a dig in. You don't provide arguments at all, you're just a wannabe meangirl, constantly attacking other posters and using personal insults when they disagree with you. You really think you're doing something with this, it's actually really sad to witness.
Solaria Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said: You just say things, like, whatever comes to your mind to try to get a dig in. You don't provide arguments at all, you're just a wannabe meangirl, constantly attacking other posters and using personal insults when they disagree with you. You really think you're doing something with this, it's actually really sad to witness. Which is what their entire fanbase is made up of. But I'm not surprised. Like mother like daughter
More Than A Melody Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: I used IFPI artist list in an argument about which artist is bigger. You are the one using albums or excluding them in a conversation about artists. Make it make sense. Except the argument wasn't "which artist is bigger" it was which artists are currently outselling Taylor Swift with their current projects. I literally said in the first message "they'll never have her career but that doesn't change the fact that their current projects are outselling hers". So, you used a chart that includes Taylor's back catalogue to prove that current artists aren't outselling Taylor's current projects with theirs. Why don't you make it make sense?
Headlock Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 Just now, More Than A Melody said: You just say things, like, whatever comes to your mind to try to get a dig in. *gestures to this entire thread* This entire thread was made to drag Taylor 1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said: You don't provide arguments at all, Because others have already done it for me 1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said: You really think you're doing something with this, it's actually really sad to witness. Indeed: 31 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: Nah, I'll keep doing it wherever I want to do it, and right now, it's in this thread. But thanks for the suggestion. It truly is sad to witness
Headlock Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, pieceofgök said: Which is what their entire fanbase is made up of. But I'm not surprised. Like mother like daughter You and @More Than A Melody need to get a room
Mariano Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 This has always been one sided and taylor haters have not been using Adele nearly enough to warrant that kind of obsession. It's really weird
Headlock Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 It really is quite hilarious how this thread have devolved in arguing about Taylor, when it was made to discuss Adele and Taylor. It's almost like that was the true motive behind the "fans" of Adele all along
Cloröx Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 Thread title : why are swifties so pressed at adele In reality : We have another non-stans of both artists that pretty much have nothing to do with the thread yet keep writing essays I wonder who actually the pressed one
More Than A Melody Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Headlock said: *gestures to this entire thread* This entire thread was made to drag Taylor It was made to drag Swifties, not Taylor. Nobody thinks Taylor is pressed looking at Adele's stats and cheering when her album drops in BB200 that's your weird behavior not hers. I feel bad for her, because no matter what I dislike about her I'm sure she'd be embarrassed by this behavior (especially the thinly veiled insults you guys throw at her). Quote Because others have already done it for me They haven't. Their arguments prove nothing. Quote Indeed: It truly is sad to witness So, let me get this straight, if I don't leave this thread and bend over backwards to fit what ATRL user Headlock told me to do, I'm suddenly acting like a 14 year old? All I said is that I will continue to do what I want to do on a forum where it is allowed for me to do what I am doing. And if you don't like it, you can scroll. You don't get to tell me, or anyone, what to do. I don't think it's that hard to understand. You've been quoting me with personal insults and trying to get a rise out of me with flamebait towards Harry for months. I ignore you 99% of the time because "arguing" with someone like you is a waste of time.
Ricardo1993 Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 Yeah i dont understand why taylor swift fans are so threatened and bothered by adele when they're both successful household names which they've achieved by making safe family friendly hallmark music. Let them co-exist peacefully.
Headlock Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said: It was made to drag Swifties, not Taylor. Nobody thinks Taylor is pressed looking at Adele's stats and cheering when her album drops in BB200 that's your weird behavior not hers. I feel bad for her, because no matter what I dislike about her I'm sure she'd be embarrassed by this behavior (especially the thinly veiled insults you guys throw at her). I literally haven't commented one negative thing about Adele in my entire history on this site 1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said: They haven't. Their arguments prove nothing. That sign can't stop me DW .jpg 1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said: So, let me get this straight, if I don't leave this thread and bend over backwards to fit what ATRL user Headlock told me to do, I'm suddenly acting like a 14 year old? All I said is that I will continue to do what I want to do on a forum where it is allowed for me to do what I am doing. And if you don't like it, you can scroll. You don't get to tell me, or anyone, what to do. I don't think it's that hard to understand. You've been quoting me with personal insults and trying to get a rise out of me with flamebait towards Harry for months. I ignore you 99% of the time because "arguing" with someone like you is a waste of time. The entire point is laughing that you think you have any moral ground to stand on given your behavior It's not my fault you time after time decide to mouth off in Taylor threads, then clutch your pearls when people got something to say about it
Feanor Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: Who said it's guaranteed? The user who said: Quote Yes artist yes more albums is YES more units on an UNITS chart covering someones ENTIRE discography. The user who definitively equalled more albums to more success, when the fact is more albums do NOT always equal more units or make you place higher on the IFPI chart. 22 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: By this token, Taylor Swift "declined" in 2017 when she was #3 despite having released a new album and previously having been #1... And in 2020 when she went from #1 to #2 despite releasing 2 albums. And she did decline. Do you think you did something by pointing this out when it is factually what happened? 22 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: The point is that a January-December chart that counts artists' entire catalogue does not measure how the artists' current projects are doing as opposed to other artists' current projects, which is what I said. To do that, you have to compare project by project And if you want to compare different projects to each other, there's also a special chart exactly for that and we'll have to switch our discussion topic to "Which current project is bigger?" But when you say stuff like "X artist is bigger than Y artist", then we have to look at yes, their entire catalog because the popularity of the artist is not defined by their current project, but by how their music in its entirety performs. The consumption units an artist gets from January-December is a direct reflection of that popularity and of which artists are the biggest. There's a reason why IFPI made their artist chart their top chart and why they include all units. If an average listener listened to an artist's old album from a decade ago in 2021, that's a sign of that artists popularity in 2021. So yes, Billie Eilish and Post Malone had bigger albums than Taylor Swift in 2019. However Taylor Swift was still the bigger artist nonetheless in that year. So when you ask, who was bigger in 2019, the factual answer is Taylor Swift. Edited April 18, 2022 by Feanor
WildHeart Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: Except the argument wasn't "which artist is bigger" it was which artists are currently outselling Taylor Swift with their current projects. I literally said in the first message "they'll never have her career but that doesn't change the fact that their current projects are outselling hers". So, you used a chart that includes Taylor's back catalogue to prove that current artists aren't outselling Taylor's current projects with theirs. Why don't you make it make sense? Again, 11 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said: = artists. Exactly. If you wanna talk about albums, you should say X album is outselling Y. Not A artist is outselling B artist(which would still be wrong since there is no Drake album btw). 11 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/ Current projects selling more =/= artist is selling more Ed or Drake didn't sell more than Taylor, Equals or Certified Lover Boy sold more than Red TV. Is it clear enough? If you still don't get the basic difference, the companies you have to argue with should be IFPI, Bilboard, Spotify etc. Not me. Edited April 18, 2022 by Artistofthedecade
Icarus Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 22 hours ago, nsst said: The way yall bring metrics from any artist to drag Taylor and then play the victim when we fight back at the drag attempts
Cleanromantic Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, More Than A Melody said: If I behave like a Directioner I get to use 1D's stats, which means Harry sold 70M CSPC and was #1 on IFPI 2013: Thanks You mean to tell me even when you include One Direction sales, local Taylor still outsold no wonder you're always mad.
Kill Me Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 Why is that weird vile Larry stan in every Taylor drag thread writing essays noone"s ever gonna read? Get a life. Maybe Swifties should stop dragging Adele and drag Larry and that loser instead.
Redstreak Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Insanity said: yes this Adele vs. Taylor feud is STUPID Then STOP engaging in it
KeshaSwift Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 22 hours ago, State of Grace. said: I don't think anyone is pressed @ Adele It's just funny because this site/OTH were scrambling and using Adele to drag Taylor, especially around Oct-Nov. Fast forward a few months later and the Adele apocalypse is being outsold by that re-recorded 2012 album and potentially going lower than 2020 album folklore soon. Better luck next time I guess. Never go against the music industry taylor alison swift kiddos. THIA 20 hours ago, Cap10Planet said: Insecurity and boredom. Imagine once Taylor really starts to bomb on the charts. The decline is already real. They won't be able to handle. 20 hours ago, pieceofgök said: The minute she isn’t the No.1 female artist on Spotify anymore they’ll go back into hiding. It’s all about the stats for them. Note how her most agressive stans who are obsessed with her stats only stan her most succesful albums and diminish her more underperforming ones Don't worry we aren't bothered at ALL. Taylor is 16 years in the game , has won every possible award and achieved every single achievement there is, 9 albums out. Her longevity is unmatched, while most of her peers are struggling after a decade. Even if she flops, we will all live in peace with that
More Than A Melody Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Headlock said: I literally haven't commented one negative thing about Adele in my entire history on this site Are you all Swifties, now, Victoria Justice? When did I say that YOU did that? Quote That sign can't stop me DW .jpg I mean, I explained multiple times back and forth with words and numbers, why that "receipt" doesn't prove what you guys thinks it proves. Just scroll back. So this sign can't stop me.jpg indeed. Quote The entire point is laughing that you think you have any moral ground to stand on given your behavior What behavior? Not liking a musical artist? What are you even saying? You're the one constantly throwing personal attacks towards Harry that I have ignored now about forty million times because I literally couldn't care less what you think of him. All I said about Taylor (and this was on one argument about a year ago and never again) was that I didn't like the attitude she had of doing everything she can to sell more units, including lying about her personal life and bringing up feuds in relationships from literal 10+ years ago to market her projects. And I stand by that, even though it's not the reason I dislike her. And it's definitely not childish or immature and considering I've seen my sentiment echoed on multiple people in this forum and outside of it, I don't understand what's so weird about what I said. You've clearly been hurt by that comment for a while now because you keep bringing it up no matter what we're talking about. I promise you my opinion is not important enough for you to do all this. Relax. Quote It's not my fault you time after time decide to mouth off in Taylor threads, then clutch your pearls when people got something to say about it I don't care what people say about me on ATRL... I post on threads about all artists. Out of my 2K+ posts Taylor must represent about a 2% tops. It's not my fault that's all you see. Maybe visit other threads? Or not? IDC But for future reference, this is the last time I reply to you unless you actually bring up a receipt. I'm so bored of your failed attempts at bullying. It's so cringy.
Cleanromantic Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 43 minutes ago, pieceofgök said: SO you agree? Her entire discography is being counted on that chart and not just one album? So you agree that by logic it only makes sense that Taylor moved more UNITS on a chart that counts someone's entire discography when they've released six more albums than some of the artists on the chart? Lover was number two on that IFPI list your trying to drag
Fruity Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 They are kind of a tragic obsessive fanbase More than any other base (except maybe the monsters) they live through their fave and view her success as their own fdsifd It's a shame because Taylor herself became a lot more likeable in the past few years
KeshaSwift Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 A quick reminder that Taylor was dragged by fake Adele stans / success stans from 2012-2016, so this is a cute little payback. /Endthread
More Than A Melody Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Feanor said: But when you say stuff like "X artist is bigger than Y artist", then we have to look at yes, their entire catalog because the popularity of the artist is not defined by their current project, but by how their music in its entirety performs. The consumption units an artist gets from January-December is a direct reflection of that popularity and of which artists are the biggest. There's a reason why IFPI made their artist chart their top chart and why they include all units. If an average listener listened to an artist's old album from a decade ago in 2021, that's a sign of that artists popularity in 2021. So yes, Billie Eilish and Post Malone had bigger albums than Taylor Swift in 2019. However Taylor Swift was still the bigger artist nonetheless in that year. So when you ask, who was bigger in 2019, the factual answer is Taylor Swift. Taking my quotes out of context and then quoting me without quoting me but lying about what I said does nothing to prove your point. My FIRST message was that these artists will never have Taylor's career. MY FIRST MESSAGE. What I *actually* said was: Their Current Projects Are Outselling Her Current Projects Which. Is. True. Also, include Harry Styles on that list. And Dua Lipa. And The Weeknd. And BTS. And Drake. And Olivia Rodrigo. The point is: Taylor Swift is *currently* being outsold by *multiple* artists and the stans of those artists do not have to hide behind Adele ("but Taylor sold more of her back catalogue in current years" is just a play on semantics. "Taylor is being outsold" means that multiple albums in 2019 were bigger than Lover, and multple albums in 2020 were bigger than Folklore and Evermore, and so forth, it's just exhausting to have to clarify this over and over. Her career is bigger. That covers it. NO ONE SAYS OTHERWISE) Also, those stans also couldn't use Adele "to hide behind" previous to 2021, as we can see by the handy chart your friends have provided, seeing as Adele was only #1 on that chart in 2015. So the whole POINT of this thread "why are Swifties so pressed at Adele" and the argument "because people hide behind Adele to come for Taylor" can now be 100% disproven. Thanks to you guys. It's very appreciated Edited April 18, 2022 by More Than A Melody
BloodLuster Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Redstreak said: Then STOP engaging in it
lostcause Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 I think Easy on Me becoming a bigger hit than any Taylor song without Adele lifting a finger/ 14 years into her career broke something in them. When reality doesn’t align with the teachings of a cult, often members crack under the weight of cognitive dissonance and the alternative reality they are expected to uphold.
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