GraceRandolph Posted June 29 Posted June 29 1 hour ago, Tovitov said: Who said that? I said her numbers suck because shes tied to Biden and invisible in the administration. Would they improve if she replaced Biden and took the spotlight? I think so.ย She's been in the spotlight and has ran as POTUS herself. If she's not popular at this point she probably never will be.ย 1
Vroom Vroom Posted June 29 Posted June 29 The conspiracy theories being thrown aroundย ย People are acting like the people running the Democratic Party are evil geniuses, when in reality they are dumb out of touch millionairesย ย They literally thought Joe would do a decent job at the debate. They are as shocked as everyone else. ย They are highly incompetent and have no idea how to switch a candidate this late in the election. It's still going to be Trump v Biden. And since partisan voting is still the norm for the US, Biden still has a 50% chance of winning. I'm not saying that it right or a good thing, but it's the truthย 1
GraceRandolph Posted June 29 Posted June 29 25 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: The conspiracy theories being thrown aroundย ย People are acting like the people running the Democratic Party are evil geniuses, when in reality they are dumb out of touch millionairesย ย They literally thought Joe would do a decent job at the debate. They are as shocked as everyone else. ย They are highly incompetent and have no idea how to switch a candidate this late in the election. It's still going to be Trump v Biden. And since partisan voting is still the norm for the US, Biden still has a 50% chance of winning. I'm not saying that it right or a good thing, but it's the truthย Most election models give Trump more than 50% chance of winning right now. It's kind of over unless there is a candidate switch.ย
Tovitov Posted June 29 Posted June 29 6 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Most election models give Trump more than 50% chance of winning right now. It's kind of over unless there is a candidate switch.ย No election is over in June. For example, The general rule of when to take polling seriously has been after Labor Day. I dont imagine polling will change much by then, but you never know.ย
Communion Posted June 29 Posted June 29 7 hours ago, Onyxmage said: Oop now it has 1.4 million likes and 6 million views. The caption being He GAGGED him. ย ย Sister this same exchange is also viral on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok with people finding it funny and (even worse, complimentary) over the face Trump makes when Biden mentions that Melania was pregnant when Trump ****** a porn star. Like @Blooย has mentioned, I think some of you are misunderstanding what are actually disqualifying actions to most of the general public and voting population.ย
Aethereal Posted June 29 Posted June 29 Biden is deep fried. It's best to let another candidate run. Aside from other issues he has with left voting populace, he is not very healthy and needs to retire.ย
GhostBox Posted June 29 Posted June 29 So far the polling hasnt been as awful as I thought it would ๐ ย ย maybe we are all to politically divided for anything to matter anymore.ย ย trumps conviction barely mattered. Will this be the same? ๐คท 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 29 ATRL Moderator Posted June 29 22 minutes ago, GhostBox said: So far the polling hasnt been as awful as I thought it would ๐ ย ย maybe we are all to politically divided for anything to matter anymore.ย ย trumps conviction barely mattered. Will this be the same? ๐คท This is ultimately still a loss for Biden. If the debate did nothing to the polls, then Biden is ultimately still the loser because heโs underwater in all the polls for swing states. He needs to gain ground. No movement for him is bad at the end of the day.ย 1
Gottasadae Posted June 29 Posted June 29 25 minutes ago, GhostBox said: So far the polling hasnt been as awful as I thought it would ๐ ย ย maybe we are all to politically divided for anything to matter anymore.ย ย trumps conviction barely mattered. Will this be the same? ๐คท I feel all the concerns about his health state to continue this race but if GOP is pushing for 25th Amendment - this is the probably what Dems shouldn't do at any cost. Why they still afraid of Biden if according to them Trump is gonna win by landslide?ย ย GOP need badly Biden out and someone as stupid like miss Kamala instead of himย 1 1
GraceRandolph Posted June 29 Posted June 29 1 hour ago, GhostBox said: So far the polling hasnt been as awful as I thought it would ๐ ย ย maybe we are all to politically divided for anything to matter anymore.ย ย trumps conviction barely mattered. Will this be the same? ๐คท Biden can't really get much lower though.
GhostBox Posted June 29 Posted June 29 15 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Biden can't really get much lower though. Lower than a statistically tied race ? Sure he can.ย ย he's still the under dog. But maybe it ain't completely over for Biden after all ๐คท ย still need a few weeks for this to settle and reflect in the polls better.ย
teresaguidice Posted June 29 Posted June 29 57 minutes ago, Gottasadae said: I feel all the concerns about his health state to continue this race but if GOP is pushing for 25th Amendment - this is the probably what Dems shouldn't do at any cost. Why they still afraid of Biden if according to them Trump is gonna win by landslide?ย ย GOP need badly Biden out and someone as stupid like miss Kamala instead of himย what? ย they're pushing for it because they know it won't actually happen and they can add moreย fuel to the news cycle about the debate disasterย and mirror the calls democrats made for trump's cabinet to do the same.ย
ClashAndBurn Posted June 29 Posted June 29 5 hours ago, Tovitov said: Kamala wasnt on the ballot in California because she had dropped out 4 months before the primaryย Kamala dropped out because she was polling worse than Andrew Yang, come on now 3
ClashAndBurn Posted June 29 Posted June 29 (edited) I really want the Biden simps to answer whether they would feel safe if they got into an Uber and Joe Biden was their driver. ย And if that answer is no, then why do they feel safe with him being president? Edited June 29 by ClashAndBurn 1
ClashAndBurn Posted June 29 Posted June 29 10 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Like, having a leader that can only function for a maximum of 6 hours a day seemsโฆ like an absolute disaster. But Dems have gotten the marching orders from Obama to ignore their lying eyes and ears and re-elect a dementia patient to the highest office in the land. 1
GhostBox Posted June 29 Posted June 29 (edited) 33 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: I really want the Biden simps to answer whether they would feel safe if they got into an Uber and Joe Biden was their driver. ย And if that answer is no, then why do they feel safe with him being president? It's not just about him though. It's about the team around him and yes I feel better and safer about a Biden administration than I would trumps second term administration. Which will be filled with right wing Christian nuts.ย ย ย Edited June 29 by GhostBox 1 1
GhostBox Posted June 29 Posted June 29 6 hours ago, Tovitov said: Who said that? I said her numbers suck because shes tied to Biden and invisible in the administration. Would they improve if she replaced Biden and took the spotlight? I think so.ย I went to a birthday party yesterday and my aunt and uncle who are older moderate voters literally said "I like Kamala. Where has she been?"ย ย I was just like ๐ ย also after trashing Biden's performance at the debate they followed with "we still wouldn't vote for Trump" ๐คทย ย so who knows what voters are going to be feeling come Novemberย
Gottasadae Posted June 29 Posted June 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: I really want the Biden simps to answer whether they would feel safe if they got into an Uber and Joe Biden was their driver. ย And if that answer is no, then why do they feel safe with him being president? Same question - are you gonna feel safe and untouchable under Trump and his fascist administration? ย I know that Biden is old, sick and whatever, people probably will vote for him not because they are his simps or they adore and love him - it's a vote against Trump! Personally, I don't really care about Biden dementia as long as we finally get rid of Trump and his dumb maga cult forever.ย ย Also, I can bet that Biden will not gonna serve a full second term due to his health issues, so it's a win-win situation for everyone except Trump.ย Edited June 29 by Gottasadae 1
ClashAndBurn Posted June 29 Posted June 29 1 hour ago, GhostBox said: It's not just about him though. It's about the team around him and yes I feel better and safer about a Biden administration than I would trumps second term administration. Which will be filled with right wing Christian nuts.ย ย ย The fact that you're depending on caretakers like Raytheon board member Lloyd Austin to make sound decisions is WILD tbh 1 1
GhostBox Posted June 29 Posted June 29 1 minute ago, ClashAndBurn said: The fact that you're depending on caretakers like Raytheon board member Lloyd Austin to make sound decisions is WILD tbh The people in Biden's admin are far more competent than anyone Trump will have in his.ย ย not to mention just simply less horrible humans too. ๐
ClashAndBurn Posted June 29 Posted June 29 18 minutes ago, Gottasadae said: Same question - are you gonna feel safe and untouchable under Trump and his fascist administration? ย I know that Biden is old, sick and whatever, people probably will vote for him not because they are his simps or they adore and love him - it's a vote against Trump! Personally, I don't really care about Biden dementia as long as we finally get rid of Trump and his dumb maga cult forever.ย ย Also, I can bet that Biden will not gonna serve a full second term due to his health issues, so it's a win-win situation for everyone except Trump.ย So then we get a President Harris who stands for absolutely nothing and is every bit as unprepared for the job as Trump is, if not more. ย Genuinely I hope the voters never forgive the Democrats for this. Biden's candidacy has been an unmitigated disaster and it didn't have to be this way, if not for his unbearable ego.ย ย 2
Gottasadae Posted June 29 Posted June 29 Either way, if Biden out now, dems will nominate her since she's next in line, what other options do we have hereย ย You know better than me that other candidate than Kamala at that damn convention will never happenย ย The other option - let's say Biden won re-election, dems won The House, Biden/Kamala are both out, so Speaker will take a lead, simple as it is.ย ย
If U Seek Amy Posted June 29 Posted June 29 1 hour ago, GhostBox said: I went to a birthday party yesterday and my aunt and uncle who are older moderate voters literally said "I like Kamala. Where has she been?"ย ย I was just like ๐ ย also after trashing Biden's performance at the debate they followed with "we still wouldn't vote for Trump" ๐คทย ย so who knows what voters are going to be feeling come Novemberย 538 has Biden up in PA, WI, and MI, which if he has those, he has the rest for 270 let's be honest. He definitely is far from over! People are just now finally starting to really pay attention, slowly but surely, so I expect to see more shifts even if small going forward that matter more. Seems like a lot of noise online right now that isn't often in line with actual voters based on high fund raising outpacing Trump. A lot of the noise in here alone is people who were never going to vote for him in the first place so it matters none. And a lot of that noise associates everything negative with Biden and his loss of votes (which I have no doubt he will lose votes), but they never attribute any loss to Trump and act like his votes will remain unchanged from 2020. I get there are a lot of factors to consider and that by no means means he is safe and I do not wish to imply that. But even just in my family alone every single female who previously voted Trump is either now not going to vote or is voting Biden. I am in Ohio so honestly it probably will make no difference, but I feel that same sentiment will be heard in many more places from many more females for just one factor 1
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