Dula Peep Posted June 28 Posted June 28 CNN actually talking about Biden actually dropping out… Hakeem Jeffries seems to be set up next in line for Dems…. he might as well step up now with an even more progressive VP pick…
Achilles. Posted June 28 Posted June 28 1 hour ago, Communion said: I can safely assume that suddenly my 4 years of yapping wrt "please dear god pick someone else, pick someone else..." suddenly doesn't seem so ridiculous now? Oh? The prophetess is truly never believed for ha visions, huh. So they killed Communion first cause he feared the worst and tried to tell the town. 3
Communion Posted June 28 Posted June 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, Communion said: Not to be that person - nor get ahead of myself as I'm only on page 932 and maybe Joe will somehow find a way to sneak a Ricola between commercial breaks - but as I'm catching up reading the thread and seeing clips on social media... ....I can safely assume that suddenly my 4 years of yapping wrt "please dear god pick someone else, pick someone else..." suddenly doesn't seem so ridiculous now? Oh? The prophetess is truly never believed for ha visions, huh. On 4/17/2022 at 8:36 PM, Communion said: Some people hate Joe Biden because they sat in the ICU with loved ones during a pandemic and had to see Joe Biden sit on the TV and say he would veto Medicare For All even if Congress passed it. Well I think that's enough of the debate I needed to see. @Espresso I threw away my mail-in ballot for the Democratic primary because it seemed pointless. I might vote Green in November, though that exercise in itself also just seems ultimately pointless with what electoral politics has become. Maybe it's blue-state apathy or desensitization from involuntarily seeing too many photos and videos of Palestinian children manned and hurt by bombs, but I guess the couch really did win in the end. Edited June 28 by Communion 1 1
Isaiah Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Genuine question for someone with more political knowledge than me: with how poor Biden's reception is and how the public perceive him as senile Joe, why don't the dems just prop up Kamala instead? Why are they so hell bent on Joe 2.0, I don't get it 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 28 ATRL Moderator Posted June 28 6 minutes ago, Onyxmage said: No, he said that they rip the baby out of the womb then decide what to do with it at after they take it out (at nine months). Basically insinuating that they night kill it after its born? post birth abortion? I cant even fathom the words he says it makes my brain hurt. Again, infanticide (i.e., post-birth abortion) allegations are not new: Quote Republican Senate candidate Alan Keyes attacked Barack Obama over this legislation during their 2004 race for the U.S. Senate, repeatedly accusing him of favoring "infanticide."Because of this, Keyes said, "Christ would not vote for Barack Obama." Nevertheless, 70 percent of Illinois voters did vote for Obama, but now the issue has bubbled up again. The National Right to Life Committee released a statement Aug. 11 saying it had obtained proof that Obama was misrepresenting his 2003 vote by stating that the Illinois "born alive" bill that he voted against in committee lacked a provision, contained in the 2002 federal law, that foreclosed any effect on abortion rights. Obama, in an Aug. 16 interview, then said critics of his "born alive" stance were "not telling the truth" and "lying." On Aug. 18, the NRLC updated its white paper and continued to accuse Obama of dissembling. https://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obama-and-infanticide/
ClashAndBurn Posted June 28 Posted June 28 5 minutes ago, Dula Peep said: CNN actually talking about Biden actually dropping out… Hakeem Jeffries seems to be set up next in line for Dems…. he might as well step up now with an even more progressive VP pick… Establishment Democrats like Jeffries HATE progressives, so if anyone's replacing Harris as VP it's gonna be Joe Manchin.
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 28 ATRL Moderator Posted June 28 4 minutes ago, Isaiah said: Genuine question for someone with more political knowledge than me: with how poor Biden's reception is and how the public perceive him as senile Joe, why don't the dems just prop up Kamala instead? Why are they so hell bent on Joe 2.0, I don't get it Because they're bad at politics. There's an age-old adage: "Republicans fall in line; Democrats fall in love." There's no logical reason to keep Biden, frankly. Ironically, in 2016, Hillary Clinton supporters (myself included) argued in favor of super delegates because they allow the party to course correct in an emergency scenario. We are in that exact scenario, but the Democrats will likely not pull the trigger. They always could. The Democratic elites could try to convince Biden to step down. But, they literally rigged the primaries for him so super delegates cannot make up the difference. As for Kamala, she also polls poorly. But, I personally attribute most of that to the fact that she's too attached to Joe. 3 2
ClashAndBurn Posted June 28 Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, Isaiah said: Genuine question for someone with more political knowledge than me: with how poor Biden's reception is and how the public perceive him as senile Joe, why don't the dems just prop up Kamala instead? Why are they so hell bent on Joe 2.0, I don't get it Kamala polls even worse. Democrats aren't certain how well she could do, so they're not willing to commit to her even if they like her, and everyone else just despises her. 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 28 ATRL Moderator Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Establishment Democrats like Jeffries HATE progressives, so if anyone's replacing Harris as VP it's gonna be Joe Manchin. Maybe Kyrsten Sinema? First queer VP!! 1 1
Achilles. Posted June 28 Posted June 28 17 minutes ago, Onyxmage said: Wait I missed some of the debate but I saw a clip where Trump said that Biden wanted them to rip a baby out of the mothers womb at 9 months and kill it. PLEASE dont tell me this is real. It is real and a common talking point amongst Republicans. Can you believe the Democrats are so ineffective at messaging that they can't even clapback at "post-birth abortions." 3
Dula Peep Posted June 28 Posted June 28 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Establishment Democrats like Jeffries HATE progressives, so if anyone's replacing Harris as VP it's gonna be Joe Manchin. AOC will be 35… Jeffries/AOC…they would totally win The republicans would lose their minds but that's exactly the energy we need Edited June 28 by Dula Peep
ClashAndBurn Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Just now, Bloo said: Maybe Kyrsten Sinema? First queer VP!! She's an Indie darling now, I fear. She won't be topping any charts with the Democrats this season, henny 2
Onyxmage Posted June 28 Posted June 28 5 minutes ago, Bloo said: Again, infanticide (i.e., post-birth abortion) allegations are not new: https://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obama-and-infanticide/ I've never heard him say that and I've never heard of that in my entire life and I've studied in the medical field. So yeah this is not something you just brush aside. I know a lot of other people watching were probably shocked too. 1
Onyxmage Posted June 28 Posted June 28 1 minute ago, Achilles. said: It is real and a common talking point amongst Republicans. Can you believe the Democrats are so ineffective at messaging that they can't even clapback at "post-birth abortions." Is there some reason why you took Trump saying something insane and somehow turned it back onto Democrats? 1
GhostBox Posted June 28 Posted June 28 If Biden's poll numbers don't completely collapse after tonight then maybe nothing matters 💀😂 1
ClashAndBurn Posted June 28 Posted June 28 1 minute ago, Dula Peep said: AOC will be 35… Jeffries/AOC…they would totally win Them both being from New York would make that a difficult ask, since I think that a same-state ticket isn't even really allowed? That said, I don't think that would happen even if it could. AOC's wing of the party is currently being pushed out and as such, she's losing influence week by week. Just the other day, Jamaal Bowman lost his primary in a landslide, and some of the other Squad members are also super vulnerable to AIPAC candidates, so…
Achilles. Posted June 28 Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, Onyxmage said: Is there some reason why you took Trump saying something insane and somehow turned it back onto Democrats? Because as the opposition to Trump, the Democrats bear the burden of having to convince the world of his insanity and they are not very good at it? 1 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 28 ATRL Moderator Posted June 28 5 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: She's an Indie darling now, I fear. She won't be topping any charts with the Democrats this season, henny All the more appeal for a crossover. Think of how she could appeal to the centrist voters. She is a moment me thinks. 4 minutes ago, Onyxmage said: I've never heard him say that and I've never heard of that in my entire life and I've studied in the medical field. So yeah this is not something you just brush aside. I know a lot of other people watching were probably shocked too. Then you must not be following politics that much because this is very basic political fodder. This is pre-Trump propaganda too. I don't know what else to tell you. 1
GhostBox Posted June 28 Posted June 28 4 minutes ago, VOSS said: Maybe Trump won't be so bad It's the Xanax talking 😂
Sergi91 Posted June 28 Posted June 28 9 minutes ago, VOSS said: I took a Xanax and I'm feeling better now 9 minutes ago, VOSS said: Maybe Trump won't be so bad Enjoy your Xanax while you can… I wouldn't be surprised if Trump takes it away…
ClashAndBurn Posted June 28 Posted June 28 1 hour ago, wastedpotential said: #KHiveRise What's great about this is that Kamala's name literally means "lotus" Rise, Kamala, rise. This is the beginning. 9
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